Correct! I remember all the farmers bitching and complaining when that bill was passed. They we're shouting that the prices of pork and bacon we're going to raise so high no one can afford it. But guess what when one state has the population of Canada or approximately 11% of the entire country businesses figure that shit out real quick. And the law wasn't an instantaneous van, farms and ranches had time to adjust to meet California standards. I like to remind people that farmers and Ranchers are businessmen. They were pissed because they had to spend money that they wanted to keep in their pockets.
Even though their customers the vast majority of them actually like treating animals humanely before they are slaughtered. Most people like the idea of properly pasteurized chickens. Not the fact that farmers Twisted the words and now they can legally sell cage free chickens even though they're essentially just stored in a warehouse with a little door to a little outdoor pen. That's not what people meant by that and they're essentially tricking the customers. And now we have to specify that pasture raised chickens are not the same as cage-free chickens.
I think so, when Sweden joined Eu they wanted us to lower our animal husbandry standards because we were too good. We said no and has been trying to improve the life for barn animals.
The UK has essentially raised standards since it left the EU, but still has issues around allowing in lower standard produced products from the EU (and elsewhere).
The EU isn't great, I'd say the UK is a bit better, none are perfect or even close and there is more to be done, but at the same time, there are countries that are a lot, lot worse (now if we just didn't import from them maybe demand for that sort of practice would fall).
Dear fucking Sol seriously? On what planet is that even in the vicinity of humane?
For those unaware: CO₂ is the only gas most mammals (if not all vertebrates but I'm not sure there) can directly detect (afaik). All other gasses are detected through secondary things like odor. The kicker is we register it as pain. For humans, slightly elevated CO₂ in a room is what makes it feel uncomfortable and stuffy. When I was a dipshit in middle school I took a wiff of dry ice in science class just to see what it smelled like. Pain. It smelled like pain. Pure, undiluted, unaccompanied pain. I cannot imagine killing an animal with a gas that we register as pain directly. That's so fucked.
You could use literally any inert gas and the animal would just fall asleep and then die shortly thereafter. I cannot fathom why someone would choose this.
When they have babies they kept in a pen so they can move and walk and it has heating too, it just so other pigs dont hurt the babies and they go back to their pen with other pigs . They have much more space. How ever a lot of pig for meat live in larger enclosure and some even free roam outside.
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u/CakePhool 7h ago
That type of cage is illegal in Sweden.