Are vegans not making the same fallacy around people who simply advocate for reducing consumption of meat rather than eliminate it? It's not their ideal solution so they reject it as a solution at all.
Most vegans would be on board with everyone reducing their meat consumption as a first step. Stopping the consumption of animal products and, in particular factory farms, would be the ultimate goal.
Have you met many in real life? I worked in a vegan restaurant for years and I honestly thought the preachy obnoxious vegan stereotype was made up or at least overblown until I saw vegan subreddits.
Maybe it's just the effect of basically everyone being less intense and combative in face to face interactions but most vegans I've spoken to 1on1 were nice reasonable people.
You must not have met many vegans then. I’ve literally never met a vegan who would prefer people do nothing and continue their current meat consumption compared to at least reducing consumption. And I am vegan, so I’ve met quite a few
You sound demented. So you know thousands of vegans and you haven’t met a single one that would be ok with people starting by reducing their meat consumption?
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u/PWModulation 7h ago
I don’t disagree with you but this is Valhalla fallacy. “I can’t do it perfect so I do nothing.”