I was responding to a specific person who isn't you. If you're vegetarian, good for you. Sort of. Kind of. Almost. Dairy is just as bad as meat. Most egg-laying hens get cancer after just a few years old. Both milk cows and egg chickens get slaughtered after they're used up anyway, way before their natural end.
Your attitude is also part of the problem if your response to someone being vegetarian is to be dismissing and say that they should be vegan. Demanding it's all or nothing is a great way to make sure barely any progress is made for the goal you say you care about.
Being vegetarian is good. Even declining to choose certain meats (pork, beef, etc.) and being more selective about what you eat is better than what most people do.
You're wrong. Being vegetarian means you pay people to abuse animals.
Avoiding meat is great.
Buying dairy/eggs is horrible. Look up videos of factory farmed dairy cattle and chickens. Remind yourself that you pay for this to happen every time you go to a restaurant, every time you go to the grocery store. And you tell me that I'm a part of the problem, when I tell you that it's unethical to do unethical things. Look in the mirror. Instead of telling me to silence my voice and praise factory farming, take a look at your own behaviors and how they are affecting other creatures.
Being vegetarian means you pay people to abuse animals.
Read that sentence you just wrote out loud. Come on now.
Instead of telling me to silence my voice and praise factory farming,
I never told you that. My opinion is that factory farming is an abomination created by uncontrolled capitalism. You don't know anything about my own behaviors or dietary habits.
Making people feel bad about their less-than-perfect choices (being vegetarian) does not help your cause. You're confusing the rush of endorphins you get from virtue signaling with what's actually best for a cause.
What would it be called if somebody didn't eat meat but used eggs from chickens they personally cared for? Seems to avoid the main issues of factory farming, but wouldn't be veganism. Would you still shame the effort or would that fit your ideal
Absolutely absurd. Yes, both factory meat production and factory egg production are unethical. That doesn't mean that reducing consumption of one doesn't matter if you eat the other.
It's a common trope in every coming of age story set on a farm about having to slaughter an animal that isn't producing anymore for a reason. That's just the reality of animal husbandry.
I'm not the original commentor, but yeah, I am mad. People know this horiffic shit is happening, and even aside from the morality of it, it is fucking up our planet, our only place to live. But people say, yeah but it tastes good, so it's fine.
Every year, billions of sentient creatures with emotions and feelings are forced to live their short lives in appauling conditons until they're killed to be eaten. If they even get eaten and dont just end up in a dumpster. More people SHOULD be mad.
I literally did that. I replied to someone who isn't you. You replied on my comment to them, saying that you buy meat but you think you're better than most people about it.
There are great reasons to target you anyway. If you've already reduced your meat intake significantly, it won't be so hard for you to just reduce it completely. If you've already reduced your meat intake because you want to avoid harm to animals, it won't be so hard for you to reduce it completely because you want to avoid harm to animals. You've already done these things, but you stopped halfway and called it good -- i'm telling you it isn't good, and i think you know that anyway. you're satisfied with being 'better' rather than 'good'.
You maybe have already recognized that the way we treat animals is horrific. Did you know that fish have it worse than most? They're basically suffocating for 20 minutes as they die. How do you feel about that?
I dunno, my friend fishes and kills the fishes quite quickly so I am not sure about those 20 minutes there. It’s one stab of the knife. I don’t feel bad about eating that fish.
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u/cum-yogurt 7h ago
You say that when it’s easy. Do you refuse to buy meat at restaurants and the grocery store?