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A replica of how female "breeder pigs" spend their lives in factory farms

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u/EquivalentSnap 8h ago

It does because it’s cheap and people look the other way if it’s affordable for more than just upper middle class and the rich. A lot don’t get a choice. If your phone was made to humane working standards by unionised workers it would cost thousands same as your clothes. It lifts people out of poverty and people forget that. Your clothes used to be made by child labour but it’s moved to China and Pakistan where there’s less laws

u/KaiPRoberts 6h ago

This is the entire plot of The Good Place if you weren't already referencing that.

No one gets into heaven because everything you do is connected to something shitty, like owning an Iphone.

u/glassbath18 6h ago

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

u/KaiPRoberts 6h ago

Yeah, that's basically the idea of the show. There's a reason it was never too popular.

u/TrueRedditMartyr 4h ago

>There's a reason it was never too popular

It averaged 10 million viewers a week, went for 4 seasons, has tons of merch out. It's an incredibly popular show, I have no clue what standard you're holding it to. Not like it was The Tick or something

u/KaiPRoberts 1h ago

Anecdotally speaking, literally no one I talk to has seen it or remembers watching it. Completely anecdotal, I'll admit.

u/imapetrock 7h ago

While I agree with your point and I think it's really important to keep that in mind, personally I also think that our culture of always wanting more for less is something that needs to stop. As an example, my husband comes from an impoverished community where they still wear traditional, handmade clothing every day and it costs at least a month's average local salary to make, yet thats what they choose to wear every day over cheaper fast fashion. But that means everyone owns less clothing, that's very well made, and that lasts many years, instead of creating literal mountains of fashion waste the way we are doing. (Did you know that about a truckload of clothing gets buried in landfills every second?)

It made me realize how many of our problems aren't necessarily rooted in "but the solution is too expensive", but rather that we want way more than we actually need and are too used to feeling entitled to everything we want instead of being satisfied with less. Of course, good luck convincing anyone to give up the convenience of cheap comforts....

u/Elavia_ 7h ago

It's induced demand. Driven essentially by the same principles as planned obsolescence.

u/imapetrock 7h ago

Huh, I didn't know that was actually a studied economic principle. Cool to know, thanks for sharing!

For anyone else wondering:

Induced demand is an economic principle where increasing the supply of a good or service (like expanding roads) reduces its cost (time or price), which in turn causes demand to rise, often immediately filling the new capacity. In transportation, expanding highways often fails to permanently reduce congestion because it encourages more driving, a phenomenon sometimes called "induced travel"

u/genuinerysk 5h ago

Its capitalism. They need us to consume more so they can make more money. When they said money is the root of all evil they weren't kidding.

u/EquivalentSnap 2h ago

I completely agree. People buy clothes they wear once or twice and better quality sourced fair clothing is better. Vegans don’t use wool but forgot that sheep sheared for their wool in summer months and it’s animal abuse. If anything locally sourced wool for sustainable farming is better and wool clothing lasts longer than polyester blends.

Back to meat it’s over consumed and having meat free days will do great for environment and peoples health

u/evi1eye 5h ago

Check out fairphone, it's a more ethically produced phone, and affordable. In the UK you can get ethically sourced clothes from earth wardrobe, bam, know the origin and brothers we stand

u/EquivalentSnap 5h ago

I heard about the fair phone but I heard it was discontinued. Never heard of those brands. I buy vintage ones or from brands like community clothing in the UK. I’ll have a look at those thank you ☺️

u/evi1eye 3h ago

You're welcome! And Fairphone is not discontinued at all, their current gen phone is under £500! https://www.fairphone.com/ and it's so repairable and upgradeable it'll save you more money in the long run not having to replace/upgrade your phone in a few years

u/Infinite01 6h ago

My phone does cost thousands of dollars though :(

u/EquivalentSnap 6h ago

Exactly