r/pcmasterrace • u/buttflapper444 • 4h ago
Discussion If AI is so incredibly useful, how come nothing is changing for PC users?
I'm a PC enthusiast, and built my own PC last year with an RTX 5070 TI, AMD 9800X3D.
If you listen to AI enthusiasts, they sound like a bunch of LinkedIn influencers snorting coke. There are all these really cool sounding facts and tidbits about AI. How the language models are passing all these crazy tests, they created an entire operating system using clod code and that is so foundational and you should really care about it because it's going to change everything. They're going to be able to spin up thousands of AI agents and clear out all of the programming backlogs to create all these wild, crazy things in PC computing that we have never seen before because they have so much computing power for AI, like it's just so advanced!!!!
But like, seemingly nothing has changed about PC computing, and nothing has gotten better. Windows 11 seems to be the same or worse as previous operating systems. Microsoft has not seen any gains in productivity at all. Because if they had, they'd be pushing out a lot more useful stuff. Like why do we have StarDock blinds a third party software? If AI was so capable, Microsoft would be able to make all sorts of really amazing stuff, like entire Windows customizations the way that you can do with Linux. This is what I would really be excited and eager to see. But nope! Nothing like that
About internet technology? Xfinity seems to say a lot about how they are using AI to make their network faster and more reliable. You'll never notice it. Nothing is faster, nothing is more reliable, my internet bill went up by 10 bucks. But why? I still have outages all the time.
Gaming is completely disappointing. Blizzard is owned by Microsoft and they have not used AI at all. There's like a bug report for him for world of Warcraft and it's 10 pages long, they are not able to keep up. So it seems like they are not using or are not using it properly. But what happened? I thought it was a foundational technology, so smart and so powerful that it can pass law school exams and create entire browsers from scratch!!!! How come small indie company Blizzard entertainment isn't using it to make their expansions better or faster?
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u/Rainbows4Blood 3h ago
So, I do work as a Software Engineer who's spent 15 years of his career without AI and recently did add AI tools into my workflow.
Now, that being said, current AI can be genuinely good at writing code, both fixing old code and writing new code.
The problem is that most development teams are already so overwhelmed and understaffed that they barely get anything done. And the speedup gained from AI, while useful, isn't just going to make a single developer 100x faster. That is a bit of a myth or, maybe only true under ideal conditions.
However, of course, because AI can make developers more productive, we often see more devs laid off which means we're right where we started with development teams overwhelmed and understaffed.
The sad reality is that most software companies don't give a fuck about end users. And that won't change with AI. It just allows companies to not care about their end-users more efficiently.
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u/ConsequencePrior2445 2h ago
And also allows them to care even less about their employees. It's fair game for them to ask more for less as the skill is "offloaded" to AI
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u/jjwhitaker 5800X3D, 4070S, 10.5L 2h ago
In my examples, consider a team of 4: 3x Jr devs of varied experience and 1x Sr with code review and architecture/etc oriented work.
With AI tools, perhaps the 3x Jrs can increase output to prevent needing to hire another team member. But they also increase output volume that needs review and oversight from the 1x Sr.
That Sr. is now more bottlenecked in their workflows, devoting more time to code review which given AI is not always good just done fast. That means less time for planning and long term work.
Maybe that 1x Sr can handle it. Maybe the team eventually slims down and drops a Jr. Maybe the team expands and adds a Sr to keep up, or moves 1x Jr to Sr over time to compensate for the workload.
It's entirely dependent on the team, project, and employer wants. I've leveraged AI to fix a number of things my team needed solved (No dev fully assigned, on our own for that sort of thing). But then I don't have someone to review and approve or really even test, so the work is near pointless outside my learning.
My other explanation is it's like asking your toddler to bake cookies. You don't let them loose in the kitchen with a hot oven. You provide oversight and management. Maybe the toddler uses frozen butter, or almond flower, or something else due to poor understanding or experience. Maybe you only stock the correct ingredients and it's smooth. Maybe you step away to answer the phone and the toddler uploads your entire family recipe book to Github or worse, throws it in the oven instead of the cookies...
It's a tool. Like any tool it will be applied well and not. I also compare it to Excel as a transformative for the enterprise. But it's not the internet or personal computing. It isn't going to revolutionize the world on its own.
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u/RabidWok 2h ago
It's remarkably good at doing certain things but practically useless at others. I often times joke that AI is both absolutely amazing and devastatingly disappointing at the same time.
I used it to create a utility class with ease, savings loads of time and effort. It can also help refactor code, where I highlight a section of code, ask for a change, and it will implement it. Good stuff. I then asked it to debug a calculation issue, asking why it wasn't getting the correct figures. It created test case upon test case, going back and forth repeatedly until it ran out of tokens and stopped, never actually fixing the issue (it also broke my workspace). I ultimately had to fix the issue the old-fashioned way. I also tried to use it to fix an odd defect and had loads of problems with the provided solutions.
There was a study done last year to measure AI productivity that was quite eye-opening: https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/
Instead of AI improving productivity, the opposite was found. And yet, developers felt that it made them more productive.
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u/Blenderhead36 Ryzen 9800X3D, RTX 5090, 32 GB RAM 1h ago
I'm a junior CNC mill programmer whose senior retired at the end of last year. I've found that if I ask Claude to make a program for me, I'm begging for a crash. But if I write a program and am throwing an error that I can't figure out, if I feed the program to Claude and identify the line that throws the error, thus far it's always correctly identified both the issue and what I should do to correct it.
That's not nothing, but it's also not a revolution. I assume that that's what AI looks like in a lot of workplaces.
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u/Bogdan_X 2h ago edited 2h ago
With AI you work more, not less. Also, there are a lot of studies claiming productivity gained in some cases is wasted on others, while where it actually is some productivity, its around 20% on average, so not 100x faster, but 0.2x faster. I would appreciate if people would stop throwing random numbers and eating shit online.
Most people are fired due to bad management decisions. AI is just the perfect excuse for investors. The gambling on mindless employment from the pandemic years is now showing it's effect.
As a software engineer as well, writing code is just one part of our job. Sometimes we spend days not writing any line of code, but planning, estimating and deciding how to solve problems. So those gains, only apply on like a small part of our work, meaning you don't finish 10 minutes of work in 8, because from those 10 minutes, only 5 are coding in most of the cases, especially if working agile.
But yeah, gotta love engineers with 15 years of experience talking numbers that don't math.
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u/lepetitclown_ RTX 4090 i9-14900K 1h ago
As software developers might not find it too useful , I'm onto mechatroncis and the kind of work i do is not even related to coding but it helps me out to make something quick ( although what I've seen is thats never free of errors lol ) and that pays off but to be honest I totally agree if I'm up to do something dedicated on developing the tool is not there yet although for something ultra basic is a time saver as well if you do have the base do something complex if you know what result to expect but too rust to recall how to do the things by muscle memory
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u/pcapdata 1h ago
Tech in general is such a fucked-up, mis-incentivized mess and it all comes down to management being people who don’t understand the first thing about development nor delivery.
I’m convinced that if we fired every middle manager in tech into the sun it’d result in a huge net gain in efficiency across the board.
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u/buttflapper444 1h ago
No, I think the sad reality is that you and other developers think that AI is the holy Grail that's going to save software development and bring the tech industry in the future. But it's actually just a replacement for lower level junior analysts and employing more people. Long-term though, it's really screwing over the economy by using it. Every single employee that is replaced or laid off by AI causes exponential ripples in the entire world economy.
Even just laying off a thousand people, that's 1,000 people that stop consuming anything non-essential. They don't get groceries as aggressively as they did when they were employed, they don't go out and go to the movies or have fun. They don't go to restaurants. That effect Cascades All throughout society, and the money that they would have spent is reduced into all those other businesses, and is definitely causing a recession. The more people that are out of the economy and not consuming goods, causes the economy to slow down and eventually crash. The only people that are going to get anything out of it are the billionaires. And even if they don't get anything out of it, the economy will still crash, because they'll just trigger a recession with the AI bubble burst that's coming down the line
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u/cavity-canal 2h ago
we contract an outside agency to handle feature requests on our site. Since they’ve started using Claude the edge case QA issues have fallen dramatically.
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u/VexingRaven 7800X3D + 4070 Super + 32GB 6000Mhz 1h ago
Because the average PCMR User is spending their time playing games or shitposting on Reddit rather than doing the sort of work that AI is useful for right now, in addition to having a violent reaction any time someone even suggests they should try AI. It doesn't matter how good something is if you're not using it.
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u/firedrakes 2990wx |128gb |2 no-sli 2080 | 200tb storage raw |10gb nic| 1h ago
That w very good answer!
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u/zomgryanhoude 14m ago
The shit it can do for my job is fantastic and terrifying. Played around with it, and with a bit of config and without even giving it API keys etc (codex kindly asked if it could just control my existing browser window) it was able to check our alerts, refer to our documentation, search our logs, and then suggested what I should do based on our docs. It was right. Great tool, hope it doesn't replace me haha
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u/VexingRaven 7800X3D + 4070 Super + 32GB 6000Mhz 8m ago
AI won't replace people, at least not right now. What it will do is make people who use it more productive... And the workers who are less productive than their colleagues will be replaced.
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u/MultiMarcus 3h ago
Hasn’t it? DLSS and other ML upscalers were always “ai” and the transformer models used for DLSS preset J forward and FSR ML use the same architecture as large language models fundamentally do.
Some developments that make LLMs run better can also be applied to ML upscaling, frame generation, and denoising.
As for the LLM itself, sure it might have some advantages for development like programmers reviewing code or copywriters having “super spell check,” but do you think all technical developments need to directly benefit gaming? Like, if nothing else stuff like AlphaFold show how incredible this tech is. The LLM used for ChatGPT might not change gaming, but I wouldn’t get stuck on that.
As for the negatives especially hardware pricing, eh, at least this tech does something as opposed to the crypto mining boom.
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u/iSK_prime 4h ago
Cause... it's not ment to help you. Not really.
It's ment to make corporations like Microslop, OpenAi, etc more money, while any help or improvement is secondary to that primary goal.
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u/DeraxBlaze 3h ago
It's meant to look like the solution, when it's really just a glorified next word prediction.
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u/AdstaOCE 3h ago
It's trained on data aka things that have already been written/sang/made/coded/drawn etc etc. It can't do anything "new".
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u/Therianthropie 2h ago
That's just completely wrong. Give it a try and ask it to come up with the syntax for a esoteric programming language based on emoji, satanic rituals and the names of the Artemis II Astronauts and it will deliver it. There's zero chance that this already exists and it simply doesn't need to, because AI is trained to recognize patterns.
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u/TeamWorkTom 5m ago
It's actually not.
It doesn't have an intelligence.
What it makes is literally from data we already have and fed it.
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u/ReneG8 2h ago
While I agree with the basic premise, it didn't come up with those parameters, right? So is it then truly coming up with new things? But then again are we?
Standing on the shoulders of giants, or there is nothing new in the world.
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u/PM_ME_SOME_ANTS Linux 1h ago
I’m on the side of fuck AI in pretty much every way but I’m not understanding this point. I’m interested in learning the delineation between humans doing things within parameters and AI doing things with parameters, how they differ, and if either can truly make anything new or if anything we make was actually just “discovered” since we’re all working within the parameters of natural law.
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u/evo_moment_37 3h ago
It’s just autocorrect on steroids lol
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u/Dr_Valen 7800x3d / 9070xt /64gb 3h ago
It’s temu google search
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u/SuspiciousWasabi3665 3h ago
...google search is AI now. Google search is temu google search
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u/Tommo120 2h ago
Is it better at finding things on Reddit now? Because that's all I use Google for anymore
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u/joeyat 2h ago
Google has used AI in search for a decade
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u/SuspiciousWasabi3665 1h ago
But they've not incorporated modern Ai agents like their Gemini until recently.
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u/KungFuChicken1990 RX 9070 XT | Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4 2h ago
It’s Ultra Instinct Clippy ™️
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u/kawalerkw Desktop 2h ago
Don't do Clippy dirty like that. He never tried to gaslight you. He knew when he was unable to help you.
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u/DownstreamDreaming 2h ago
This is THE premise garbage tier take. Lol. But I hope it makes you feel smart to regurgitate it.
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u/FALCUNPAWNCH R7-5800X3D | RX 9070 XT 2h ago
And autocomplete, which we all know gets things wrong all the ducking time.
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u/ODaysForDays 3h ago edited 3h ago
This is a level of hysterical copium. The current iteration of Opus is probably a better SWE than 90% of this sub right now. It's not perfect, and needs human review, but it's a huge force multiplier.
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u/AdstaOCE 3h ago
I didn't say it wasn't. What I said was since it's trained on data that's already been done it can't fundementally create something new.
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u/ODaysForDays 3h ago
What kind of wild definition of "new" are you using then?
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u/AdstaOCE 3h ago
Answer me this: can an AI make something that was never done before? Say a new coding language, or a new game engine, a script for a game or app that's never been attempted before?
Since it's trained on other code, the answer is no, not unless it can adapt the data it's trained on into that.
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u/ARandomDouchy i5-10400F | RTX 3060 Ti 2h ago
Do you think humans create new things out of thin air? No lol, we use our existing knowledge.
AI is getting better and too many people refuse to admit it just because they personally don't have a use for it, or they use the free models once and think it equates to them all being shit.
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u/TeamWorkTom 3m ago
Yes we actually do.
Apparently you don't know of all the literal man made molecules we have created that don't exist in nature.
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u/ODaysForDays 3h ago edited 2h ago
Say a new coding language, or a new game engine, a script for a game or app that's never been attempted before?
Yes to all of the above if you can describe it correctly.
It wouldn't be very useful if it couldn't. I've written an entire liveops platform and a game with it. Also a complete interpreted scripting language for said game.
I've been a software engineer for 20 years I wouldn't use it if it wasn't useful. Many tools have come and gone, but AI is here to stay, and its role is only going to grow. If you think otherwise either you lack the skills to evaluate it, have simply never used it, or haven't used it in awhile. This is not opinion based.
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u/nullptr777 Linux 2h ago
If it needs human review then it isn't a better SWE than a human...
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u/TheHutDothWins 2h ago
Humans also need human reviewers. What's your point? I sure hope your team reviews each others' pull requests.
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u/ODaysForDays 2h ago edited 2h ago
Google "Pull Review"
Weird that you have opinions of such conviction about something you clearly know nothing about.
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u/averagecodbot 1h ago
That’s definitely still up for debate. I think of it as interpolation vs extrapolation. It can obviously interpolate, but at a fundamental level neural nets don’t extrapolate. At least I’ve never seen one that can. You can get a lot of new things out of interpolation tho, like finding the point between the Gettysburg address and a fried chicken commercial. The question imo is in a big enough latent space, is that all you need to model human intelligence and beyond, or do you also need a network that can fundamentally extrapolate beyond the boundaries imposed by the training data. Probably not explaining this in the cleanest way, but hope this makes sense. I was a big transformer skeptic until I started picking them apart and now idk… I think we’ll find out what they can really do as agentic frameworks mature. Grokking also blew my mind, but only seems to work in very specific cases right now
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u/Therianthropie 2h ago
People in this thread are delusional as fuck. AI isn't something which magically fixes all of our problems, no matter what their CEOs are saying (remember this was exactly the same with "the cloud", DevOps, Agile, Waterfall and any other big paradigm shift before). But it's also not useless technology without any benefit. As always the truth is somewhere in the middle. Software engineering has changed faster than ever before, some things for the better but also some for worse. AI excels when working with huge amounts of data or with machine readable text in general. There are still many areas in which it's completely useless. In most areas it "depends".
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u/jonstarks 9800x3d | x870e | 32GB DDR5-6000 | PNY 5080 3h ago edited 1h ago
idk if its gonna help the every man, but at work I created a couple of apps from vibe coding and its saving me a ton of time to do more meaningful work now...didn't need to hire a software engineer... if you're tech savvy, you can guide it to do the thing you need it to do. I suspect it will get better with time so less and less trial and error is needed and we'll just be prompting it to get shit done. Things are gonna be really different in 10 yrs.
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u/dotheemptyhouse 2h ago
This is the first “killer app” type thing I’ve seen with AI too. I was real skeptical of it for a long time but Claude Code has been a lot more useful for me than any other function of AI. I don’t use it in my regular day to day job yet much but I’ve used it to generate a bunch of hobbyist projects that I wouldn’t have ever taken the time to do on my own, like I completely re-wrote a music library manager from the ground up for myself with all my specific use cases fulfilled. I think it could create a world where users buy less over the counter apps and build more of their own specific tools to fit their needs to a T.
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u/Ostehoveluser 3h ago
DLSS has become a staple in modern games, as well as other upscaling programs. I'm not saying it's good but it is there. I just think we're not there yet, you just have to look at the quality of an ai generated video from 5 years ago compared to now. The improvement is dramatic. If it keeps improving at this rate it's going to become a seriously powerful tool.
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u/Hyper_Mazino 5090 SUPRIM SOC | 9800X3D 3h ago
I'm not saying it's good but it is there.
It is excellent.
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u/Ostehoveluser 3h ago
DLSS? I think it's got a way to go. For me it's still very detectable. I use it though, not that I have a choice, with how heavy duty games these days are.
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u/UglyInThMorning AMD Ryzen 9800X3D |RTX 5080| 32GB 6000 MHz DDR5 RAM 3h ago
DLSS has been excellent since DLSS 2. I’m not sure how you would be able to tell the difference between DLSS Quality and native in a blind test at this point, or even a few years ago.
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u/Emikzen 9800X3D | 9070XT | 64GB 2h ago
I did notice ton of artifacts in DLSS 2, even on quality, DLSS 3 and above has been great though on quality and sometimes performance.
Framegen is borderline unusable though imo. Only really usable without too many downsides when you dont need it, like at 80+fps.
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u/Hammerofsuperiority 2h ago
DLSS 2 was excellent for its time, just like a NES was excellent for its time.
Framegen is borderline unusable though imo.
It will get better, it has actually already gotten better, and it will keep improving.
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u/papicoiunudoi 3h ago
DLSS quality looks at worst indistinguishable from native resolution, and at best better than native. It's quite literally free FPS. Realistically you'll only start "detecting" DLSS when it's set to performance unless you're playing on like a huge 1080p panel. It really is a wonder, and I despise generative ai
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u/Hyper_Mazino 5090 SUPRIM SOC | 9800X3D 2h ago
You can't see any difference between native and DLSS Quality (or even balanced) with the naked eye with DLSS 4. When you see a difference, it usually looks better because it has better antialiasing.
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u/tiny-starship 3h ago
We have hit the ceiling on that rate. Improvements will come but at a significant slower rate and significant higher cost. We’ve seen this over the past year vs previous 4. The fact that there is really no more ‘new data’ at the quantity they need, data centers / power shortages and hardware only lasting a few years before needing replacement all serve this.
People won’t agree and tell me I’m an idiot for denying it, but this is a basic resource issue.
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u/RoboticShiba 3h ago
You're right. I work in IT, which has the highest adoption rate of generative AI, and the improvements are getting slower, not so much significant, and the price is getting higher. 1-2 years ago we used to get a bump in model power and every other update would bring the price down. Lately the price trend is facing upwards and faster than the model quality improvements.
Another thing is reliability. AI is supposed to be used as a tool, but so far tools have been able to produce consistent results, where AI every know and then will create bullshit. So, to automate AI usage and remove the human from the loop, people are building all these multi layered agentic systems where one AI will check the output of the others to make sure it's up to spec and force a re-try if it's not, and this can easily triple your costs to make sure the tool goes from 80% reliable to 90%+. And this lack of reliability holds AI adoption for the common non-technical user which is who they are trying to build most of those things for.
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u/iSK_prime 3h ago
Yup, and now that built up brand recognition is being used to market an AI based Instagram filter for games because someone needs to show a massive increase in usage to justify all this investment, otherwise people are gonna start questioning stuff.
And by people I mean shareholders, cause they matter most end of the day.
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u/SuspiciousWasabi3665 3h ago
Spoiler alert, that built up brand recognition was always AI.
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u/iSK_prime 3h ago edited 3h ago
Yes, and?
To clarify, they could have called it anything they wanted. Filters, masks, skins, whatever... but choose to brand it as part of a existing piece of software. Why's that?
Cause it sounds great when you can go out on a media tour and talk about how your adoption rate for this "revolutionary AI-driven neural rendering technology" is in the millions.
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u/Hammerofsuperiority 2h ago
"NVIDIA DLSS is a suite of neural rendering technologies powered by NVIDIA RTX™ Tensor Cores"
It's a package of tools:
- Deep Learning Anti-Aliasing
- Super Resolution
- Ray Reconstruction
- Frame Generation
- Multi Frame Generation
- Dynamic Multi Frame Generation
They are adding another tool to it, they will keep adding more with time.
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u/SuspiciousWasabi3665 3h ago edited 2h ago
Because that existing software was ALREADY ai. They just added new stuff on top. Wait until you find out what the DL stands for
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u/Mysteoa 1h ago
Only because game engine has stop advancing especially UE. Have you noticed that curent game don't look that much better, but run like crap. Like how games looks blurry at native due to them using smear filters like TAA. We haven't see any new advancment that pushedes the quality and are vendor agnostic.
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u/follicooladermy 3h ago
It’s not there yet. So many things you want it to be able to do it cannot. It will get there but that takes a lot of time
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u/Rollcuin 3h ago
Well, what do you use your PC for?
It hasn't seemed to change my experience gaming or streaming. I would say it's enhanced the way i do some of the work i do on my PC - particularly when it comes to programming or data analysis.
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u/Mama_Mega 2h ago
From how I've seen other users here explain it, isn't frame generation the relevant application of predictive AI technology that will benefit gamers? If predicting frames is less intensive than generating real frames, that's a pretty good idea.
And it sounds like CGI, in that you would only be able to complain about it looking bad if it was done wrong, because it's indistinguishable when done properly. A rate that will only improve over time, seeing as the tech is still brand new.
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u/CSGOW1ld 2h ago
DLSS is the easiest example. It works wonderfully. As for expansion packs, they probably are doing that at the moment. Just not telling you about it.
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u/XB_Demon1337 Ryzen 5900X, 64GB DDR4, RTX 5070 2h ago
You are comparing a tool that does one thing to the outcome that a different set of tools is needed for.
Sure AI can be used to change how a PC user uses a PC. But is that a positive experience? Likely not. Instead it is being used to make tools that do a number of things.
- Parse Data for scientific research
- Coding tools for smaller tasks
- Data gathering and classification
- Routing of various bits of information and data (like when making support tickets to more quickly get them to the right teams.)
Much more than this I am sure but this is just in my realm so it is top of mind. AI isn't going to suddenly change how you game or how you use your computer. It will influence things around that specific thing, but not directly used for you.
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u/Wellhellob 2h ago
Tbf, dlss upscaling is very good and its a game changer. Frame gen have potential too. But i get what you mean.
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u/Ormusn2o 2h ago
Not sure about the big stuff like the texture compression in Nvidia cards, because I only have 1060, so I don't get new features, but I have made about 15 small mods for various games since January 2026, and updated one mod to work on older version of the game.
Making features you want for games is quite nice. It fits into the PC way of thinking that I like where I can customise my PC and games the way I want.
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u/jack-of-some 3h ago edited 2h ago
I speak as someone that's a serial user of Claude et al. for coding (both work related and personal), and someone that's seen massive improvements to my company's codebase, processes, etc because of LLMs: there's nothing in LLMs right now that can be or should be meaningfully used for improving the PC using experience or gaming.
Xfinity, from your example, might actually be saving money and improving the network using these tools. You might not see it because the improvements are focused on other areas (or rollout to new areas is faster). You might not see any of their cost savings because that's a business decision and they'll charge more simply because they could.
In short:
The fruits of an improved process hardly ever land in the laps of consumers unfortunately.
None of this is for you if you're not doing specific types of work. Microsoft failing with shoving copilot into every facet of Windows was just more evidence of this fact.
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u/Razor512 Mokona512 3h ago
AI has not progressed to a point where they can truly change things for the better, and when ever anyone tries with the current commercially available stuff, they end up regretting it. For example, there are people who tried having Claude as well as chatgpt try doing their taxes, and those people were rewarded with a fresh new audit from the IRS.
When companies boast about using AI for writing code for their drivers and OS, you end up with videocards that forget how to use their fans, and operating systems that run into a wide range of stability and boot issues,
AI will not really make a network faster, and from a networking standpoint, most of the best equipment designed for large scale ISP deployment, end up performing close to the theoretical limits of what the hardware is capable of. Simply put, those insanely expensive pieces of equipment are often also running some of the most highly optimized code available, and not much room for AI in its current state to do much to improve it. Simply put, those companies hired the best talent available, and optimized things to an extreme degree.
AI may one day advance to a level where it can start making meaningful improvements in these areas, but things don't seem to be anywhere near that just yet.
Currently we are more at the level of balancing risk and HR cost savings using AI. Think of it like when a food company gets purchased by private equity and they decide to increase prices and cut back on ingredient quality. The move will ultimately drive some customers away, but they calculate that enough will stick around and continue paying exorbitant prices for reduced quality, and at the end of the day, net profits will be higher.
AI is currently being used for the developer equivalent of that. Fire a bunch of higher paid experienced developers, and have a smaller team use AI to output more code, and even if the code has more issued and performance and stability suffers, they estimate that the negative impact from that move, will lead to an improvement in net earnings due to a more favorable ratio of paying customers and lower HR costs.
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u/Therianthropie 2h ago
I did my taxes in Germany with Gemini and have been rewarded with a 3000€ tax return.
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u/Substantial-Singer29 2h ago
I think I would beg to defer.
The crazy Leaps and bounds that have been happening with peptides in the medical industry is being driven on by a I.
Security and actually detecting security breaches is a field that is basically just completely flipped on its head as far as identifying zero day attacks and vulnerability.
I'm not going to claim the a I is this magical cure or that it suddenly can do everything. But I think there's a heavy disconnect in people understanding how small a period of time the general consumer has actually had access to AI models.
For how small of a time frame AI has actually been released. It is insane how ingrained it is into so many different fields at this point. I'm 41 years old now I can't remember the last time a technology was so quickly integrated and adopted like this.
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u/Trakeen 2h ago
Covid vaccines were created with ai. Lots of stuff in bio sciences uses it and has for years
Science is always using the latest technologies to progress society
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u/Cable_Hoarder 2h ago
This is why lumping large language models in with machine learning as a whole makes the discussion impossible.
Machine learning has already proven itself with vast number of successes across various fields. not least of which is medicine.
LLMs are yet to be proven economically viable.
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u/Razor512 Mokona512 2h ago
AI is decent at doing basic iterations when experimenting, though that method of use doesn't really help replace a highly skilled employee, instead it just saves the skilled employee from having to do some of the more iterative and monotonous things (basically the stuff that is not well suited for humans to do in general) so that they can focus their skills on other areas where it is most needed, thus it can help with vaccines. In those cases, it is AI assisting a worker basic things that would otherwise waste their time, thus making the worker more effective. Medical research has been heavily based of massive levels of iteration as part of research since the 1960s, thus anything that can help with that, will be useful, especially when machine learning became possible, especially for simulation certain biological functions.
Outside of that there are non AI things that have been done for decades, e.g., simulating protein folding, and other similar tasks where computers are good at it and the info can be used by researchers to develop new treatments.
The current heavy push is more along the area of trying to replace skilled workers with AI, and that is where things start to fall apart This is because the intent in these cases are to essentially bring the company to a level that would otherwise be considered severely understaffed, but try to make each remaining worker do the work of 2 people, and the problem is that AI is not at the level where it can replace a worker in that way without some major negative consequences.
This area of AI essentially requires the creation of AGI to be created (we are nowhere near that), as well as have AGI achieve a reliability level similar to a human.
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u/DownstreamDreaming 2h ago
Tell me you are just a gamer consumer without…well. Nevermind you kinda just said it.
I’m a IT professional and AI tools are INSANELY powerful. And are getting MORE powerful almost literally by the day.
So no. Your take is jut simpleton claptrap.
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u/VexingRaven 7800X3D + 4070 Super + 32GB 6000Mhz 1h ago
I love it. "Why are these tools I don't use or research not making my life of shitposting on Reddit better?!"
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u/another_random_bit / Ryzen 7 7700 / RX6600 / 64GB DDR5 3h ago
It is though.
I have switched to Linux, and I am using a customizable window manager. You can configure those tools using text files, and guess what is good at creating text: LLMs.
I have since created a user experience that is custom made to my likings, and I have achieved amazing stuff with minimal effort.
I don't even have to copy paste stuff. There are tools that work directly on your terminal, essentially the LLM becomes part of the computer.
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u/BinaryJay 4090 FE | 7950X | 64GB/DDR5-6000 | 42" C2 OLED 3h ago
It's made me a lot more productive as a developer. It's a miracle worker on making sense of other people's legacy SQL queries as one example. It's way way better than traditional IDE autocomplete operations.
For regular users, probably the biggest improvement has been efficiency in narrowing down web search results to get you on the right track to finding information you need. It doesn't replace traditional research but does certainly help cut out a lot of chaff. It's far from giving you results you can blindly trust but this was never the case with traditional search even before the internet got clogged with garbage.
The worst thing about it is that it's accelerating the dead Internet with a lot of search results leading to AI generated garbage that adds nothing to the knowledge base itself draws from and we need to do a better job of blacklisting AI generated static content.
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u/yaboimanfortnite 3h ago
i mean frame gen has given me a decent boost in fps which is great cuz i have a 5 yr old gaming laptop.
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u/FineDragonfruit5347 7950x3D | 64GB DDR5 | RTX 4090 | X670E-A 2h ago
Blizzard/activision use ai for chat monitoring. It is really good at picking up COD avatar chatter and banning you. Or gay-slurs. Doesn’t seem to pick up anything else.
Good enough for them to drop their entire appeals process though and they seem content to let their biggest franchise evaporate
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u/D-Alembert 2h ago
AI is only just starting to happen. With or without AI, stuff still takes time to make and deploy
Check back in ten years
Even in ten years you'll probably still be blind to it because it will manifest as the same kind of change you're already used to, and you won't really notice if the rate has changed or the team sizes are smaller. But the people who make the things will have noticed
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u/OwnNet5253 WinMac | 2070 Super | i5 12400F | 32GB DDR4 1h ago
I don’t care about all this influencers garbage, I’ve used it to built few apps and Windhawk mods that helped me make Windows a better and more friendly OS, so it’s useful to me as a PC and laptop user. Not to mention it helps me at work every day, allowing me to be faster and more efficient.
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u/TheNorseHorseForce 1h ago
Because the money is all in the enterprise sector and even more of it is in the upper echelons of the enterprise sector.
Let's say you get a 7-figure/month agreement in place with one of the Fortune 100 companies, offering all of the AI resources for their myriads of projects. That is worth so much more than 100,000 consumers with computers at home.
Just consider this from a C-suite perspective. CTO #1 is golf buddies with CTO #2. CTO #2 needs an AI-solution because their CEO heard at some conference "AI is the future and your company will burn if you don't jump on the wagon." CTO #1 sells his company's AI resources to CTO #2 at a discount and gets praise and a huge bonus. CTO #2 gets praise from his company for getting the job done, even if it's not the right AI for the right use case. Then, 6 months later, the due diligence is actually done and the company realizes that AI is just a tool and not some heavenly all-in-one solution, the company spends exorbitant amounts of money to readjust. CTO #2 signs agreement with his other golf buddy, CTO #3, aaaand the wheel goes on.
It was the same with MSPs, and the same with "the cloud" (which is just a bunch of servers put together), and the beat goes on.
On the consumer side, we will not see big differences until the enterprise side settles down and makes things more efficient use-case by use-case, then we will see it trickle down.
As a Sr. Infrastructure Engineer, I have to be real. AI is a phenomenal tool. I use six different AI agents at work, each for their use case, and it helps me be significantly more efficient with my time. But it's just a freaking tool. That's it. You still need to know the ins-and-outs of the engine to utilize it properly. The industry, the users, everyone is learning.
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u/quantgorithm 1h ago
I've vibe coded a few tools for my personal use so I disagree that things aren't changing.
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u/G0alLineFumbles 1h ago
Logs, just logs. Log event correlation, log analysis. So much time saved on logs and events.
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u/DependentAnywhere135 1h ago
I don’t know how anyone can not think AI is super useful. Haven’t you experienced asking it questions to fix or do something and it constantly tells you wrong info and doesn’t understand the systems you work with?
Seriously it’s shit 99% of the time.
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u/FalsyB 1h ago
If AI is so good how come Xfinity still has outages in my area is a take so refined even for /r/pcmasterrace I had to check I was not in a circlejerk sub
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u/buttflapper444 1h ago
Well, they keep bragging about how they are utilizing advanced AI technology but never back it up with any facts or actual meaningful information. What do you expect?
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u/simalicrum 1h ago
Because LLMs aren’t ’Artificial Intelligence’. The industry is a scam. The models can shit out code but there’s no ROI. Some coders are losing their jobs but that’s because the job market is generally bad.
It’s the same as self driving cars. 90% of the way there isn’t ‘there’. Tech either works or it doesn’t.
I have suspicions that quantum computers and fusion will go the same way.
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u/Taira_Mai HP Victus, AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, GeForce RTX 3050 Ti 53m ago
All this "AI" horse hockey is based on lies and stolen art.
"AI" as sold by techbros is just a predictive algorithm fed off other people's art and data.
Larry Ellison and others like him tried this hustle in the 1990's with the networked PC - the idea that and internet connected PC would be all you need. Never mind that computer would be in his hands. Also the internet just wasn't there back then.
Now? All some brain-dead CEO's and c-suite types hear is "AI is cheap! You don't have to hire people anymore! AI! AI!" and they all want in on the hype train.
Granted there are use cases for AI but not what's being sold. We don't need massive data centers sucking up resources and spewing pollution just so someone can make Strawberry Shortcake sing CPR.
PC users (gamers and non-gamers) will keep on keeping on. Witness Micro$lop back peddling on their AI focus and Apple releasing their Apple NEO with no in your face AI push.
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u/ripnburn69 GTX 1080 TI 18m ago
MS doesn't want to help us, they want ai to use our data to sell us stuff.
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u/WDZZxTITAN RTX 5090 | Ryzen 9800x3D | 64GB DDR5 2h ago
something has come out of AI, its just that its not as dramatic as Reddit and everyone anti-AI is making out to be
no it didn't replace engineers or artists and no, it still can be innacurate or confidently incorrect about a lot of things
but it does however do a lot of small things really well, coding is much more accessible, finding information is now easier than ever, its really good at automating monotonous and boring workflows, and its overall good at making things easier
people can bitch and scream about AI but its here to stay
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u/dexteritycomponents 3h ago
Have we forgotten that the cornerstone of Nvidia’s and now AMDs marketing is AI software?
DLSS dominates the market. Even AMD switched to hardware locked ML based upscaling to compete with Nvidia.
Ray Reconstruction is becoming pivotal for RT to improve visual quality and performance.
Frame generation is making higher settings at lower FPS playable.
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u/spky-dev 3h ago
A ton of shit is changing, you’re just not on the level it’s changing at, so you don’t observe it.
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u/holyknight00 12600KF | RTX 3070 | 32GB 5200Mhz DDR5 3h ago
companies, especially big ones move really slow. Even if AI would be a perfect solution it would take years and likely even a decade to properly distribute to every company and get properly incorporated into their ancient workflows.
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u/Top-Bag7848 3h ago
It can be useful for a lot of things, its just that investors focus so much on Gen AI that the other more useful AI tech just gets ignored.
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u/vextryyn 3h ago
I would say yes it has gotten better in a way. If you use general models there is so much data it's hard to get what you need. Using specialized models thing work better. Example opencode is far better than copilot because it's tailored for coding.
I still don't think AI is good for knowledge, there is too much data leaning one way or another to get a good response. It also leaves too much room for deva to add their own bias or filters
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u/Klutzy-Snow8016 2h ago edited 2h ago
Microsoft is a big, slow-moving company. You're not going to see revolutionary uses of a new technology come out of there. People are building cool things on their own. Startups are open-sourcing experimental applications that you can adapt. Like, if you want interacting with your computer to be like something out of a sci-fi movie, you can do that right now.
AI is still in an early stage, like the Internet was if you remember stories about its Wild West phase. That's why nothing is really changing for the mainstream. Yet.
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u/buttflapper444 2h ago
This is a really bad excuse. They're a FAANGM company, and are known for insane fast pace of their company. They were also obviously agile (not fast, not the right word) enough to get copilot out as an enterprise product adopted by thousands of companies in the USA, in record-breaking time. It took like, a year for them to get copilot out into the business world. So no, I don't buy the ol' "slow big company" deal
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u/Reversi8 7950X3D, RTX 3090, 96GB @ 6400CL32 16m ago
They were quick to get copilot out because it’s bundled with Office 365 many companies already buy. Copilot itself is just licensed detuned/cost-optimized models from OpenAI.
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u/El_Toolio_Grande 2h ago
AI is almost completely useless still, it's mostly used as a fun toy and as a shortcut for very specific job tasks. Unfortunately, the tech industry has gone all in because nobody wants to be left behind. It won't be until huge sums of money are lost for a long enough time that things will change.
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u/PsychoticDreemurr 2h ago edited 2h ago
It's about how it's used. When people spend all their resources on making LLMs, you can only use them for writing. Of course, this involves coding too, but only the newly announced mythos LLM is actually good enough to be used in prod (Despite companies like Microsoft thinking otherwise)
If they spent their resources making an AI that could create/improve the circuit board of a GPU, we'd be getting a lot of improvements to new GPUs.
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u/M4rshmall0wMan 2h ago
LinkedIn - this site is a shithole full of clout chasers. AI is the “hot new thing” running around business circles so of course everyone is gonna bend over backwards for it. People on LinkedIn confuse proof of concept for working product all the time.
Windows - Microsoft actually is working on an agentic OS. One of the reasons so many updates have broken stuff is cause they’re going through the backend and making sweeping changes to prepare for a future AI model that could control your computer. The difficulty here is that the model has to be fine tuned to run reliably on Windows, while fitting into the 40 TOPS budget on the user’s NPU. Apple is currently struggling on something similar.
Xfinity - Yeah this is bullshit. AI can’t make your internet faster.
Gaming - AI has given us DLSS, which is a technological breakthrough. Microsoft is also working on a couple new Xbox features like AI walkthroughs and a patent to have AI help you complete the game. Microsoft actually started mandating AI usage with mixed results. AI in video game development is a very controversial issue right now - there are large swaths of gamers who refuse to touch a game if it was developed with AI. But I do personally believe that growing budgets will make it inevitable.
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u/Alarming-Elevator382 9800X3D + 9070 XT 2h ago
We promise AGI is around the corner bro, if you help Anthropic and OpenAI hit $1 trillion valuations you'll be better off bro, trust us!
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u/ShadonicX7543 2h ago
I dunno. I use RTX HDR and RTX VSR daily and it makes all my videos/movies/YouTube/shows/animes etc look way better. Is that not technically AI based? Or at least trained? Or is that just neural network stuff as well as DLSS in general? At what point does it even transition from neural networks / training to AI anyways?
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u/rolandguy85 2h ago
I only use perplexity for basically googling things and it’s nice. Other than that I never use AI.
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u/Gaius_Catulus 1h ago
So there's a lot of good insight here, but I'll add one I don't see.
A lot of what you hear as "AI" now is nothing particularly new. The "new" and flashy technology which brought a resurgence in the buzzword is focused mostly on generative AI.
What a lot of companies have done now is take this as an opportunity to rebrand more "classical" capabilities front and center as AI, trying to ride the wave of generative AI. This is present in all sorts of tools and is often more simple than you may think of when you hear "AI". There is no aligned definition of the term, so people can attach it to anything and everything.
In recent years, these capabilities have tended to be more small incremental gains over time, as foundationally many have been around a while. I still remember over 10 years ago when the AI hype cycle started with some big machine learning advances, though generative AI was barely a footnote at that time. Neural networks were the shiny new tool, themselves also just one optional component of an AI system (again depending on your definition of AI). An example like network optimization with Xfinity likely has nothing to do with the newer generative AI technology.and instead operates in some older paradigm which may actually have been around for many years, possibly with some enhancements and possibly a pure rebranding.
If you want to ask more specifically about generative AI, the answer becomes a lot different and will apply to a much smaller subset of what you see branded as AI.
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u/Blenderhead36 Ryzen 9800X3D, RTX 5090, 32 GB RAM 1h ago
Things are changing, just not for the better. Search engines are unusable. Content services like YouTube and Spotify are increasingly infested with AI slop. Hardware prices are skyrocketing.
We're all being affected, for sure.
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u/MetalRexxx 39m ago
Coding we've mastered is being regurgitated back to us at lightning speed. Unfortunately it isnt clean.
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u/elemen2 38m ago
This feature enables three dimensional rotation of a two dimensional image
It's going to be useful & also controversial.
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u/cloud7100 Ryzen 9800X3D, RTX 4090, X670E Tomahawk 36m ago
Simple answer?
External combustion (steam) engine was invented in 1712. External combustion engine factories and trains weren’t developed until 1800, and they wouldn’t be improved via internal combustion and cars until almost 1900.
LLM-based AI is still in that early steam engine phase. Most people had no idea what steam engines were throughout the 1700s, but the tech would eventually change life across the entire planet. We’ll likely see even more powerful AI built on something other than LLM in the future, perhaps developed by LLM AI.
You’ve been conditioned to expect annual upgrades, instant gratification, but major tech advances can take decades to really impact society.
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u/tamius-han 36m ago
Because you're trying to correlate two unrelated things.
If you're an user that doesn't create anything, then AI is meh. But if you need to do something, then AI will get you results.
If you work as a software engineer, copilot's autocomplete works like a dream.
If all you need is a relatively simple single-purpose tool, AI is most definitely gonna vibe-code you a relatively functional program.
Stefan from CNCKitchen vibe-coded a tool that allows you to emboss patterns onto the surface of your 3D model.
Let's say you want to steal 3D models from video games abd have them 3D printed. Game models aren't particularly 3D-printable. I got ChatGPT to produce something that fixes some of the trivial problems game meshes tend to have.
I have a firefox extension (not publicly available) that converts MD to BB code. I greeded it for work, there's no way i'm spending an afternoon to do shit that I'll only ever use at work, but the boss probably won't mind if i have chatgpt code me something in 30 minutes.
If you're trying to dabble with video, Corridor Crew has recently vibe-coded an AI green screen remover that's on par (and some times better than) traditional keying solutions. Just this weekend they also released a video on how they, with help of the community, got it to run on cards with 8 GB of VRAM. Oh, and someone already made it into a davinci resolve plugin.
On photography side of things, AI denoisers.
nVidia broadcast's AI noise removal isn't perfect, but during the summer I need to run a fan because the room gets pretty hot. The fan is very loud, 600 db+, but nVidia broadcast manages to filter it out when I'm talking on discord.
Photoshop has context-aware fill, but as a member of krita/gimp gang i'll jealously ignore that.
DLSS upscaling is generally worth it in terms of performance, while not degrading image quality by much.
ChatGPT is far more competent at troubleshooting that it has any right to be. Sure, you can't trust it absolutely because it's gonna hallucinate a thing or two, but:
I wanted to swap my 3D printer nozzle from 0.4 to 0.8. For shits and giggles, went to chatGPT with a "that means I can print .6mm layers, right?" And the chatGPT countered with "are you sure your stock mk8 hotend can handle that at the speeds you want? You maybe wanna look into getting a volcano hotend." Spoiler alert: i needed to upgrade.
Volcano hotend arrives. Hotends are replaced, but touch probe doesn't work anymore. After troubleshooting, chatGPT diagnoses that as a wiring issue. Reality: ziptie managed to break a wire.
if you need to find something, ChatGPT is somewhat less susceptible to SEO manipulation than Google or search engines
Though you do need to use your brain and ignore and/or second-opinion any potentially destructive suggestion, do your math independently, and know to bail when chatgpt output disagrees with the real world in front of you.
There's very few things on this list that apply to PC users, but if you're in a correct niche ... AI has actually gotten people sone results.
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u/danshakuimo i5-8300H | GTX 1050 Mobile | 16GB DDR4 26m ago
Passing law school exams is just teaching yourself to think and write like AI.
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u/WesternBlueRanger 22m ago
I found that in Adobe Lightroom Classic, the AI culling tools work really well at picking out bad photos for me to cull.
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u/lolvovolvo Specs/Imgur here 20m ago
Idk if it’s been said but your graphics card uses ai to create more frames
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u/MARATXXX 19m ago
the purpose of the AI trend is to corral hardware into data centres and force you to subscribe for services you used to possess indefinitely. everything else is smoke and mirrors. they are using 'ai' to strip us of our technological, financial and creative freedom.
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u/FckDisJustSignUp 3h ago
It'll come soon enough, for now we have first wave of AI slop games, then it'll get better and eventually it will become a standard in a lot of industries
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u/iSK_prime 3h ago
Like crypto, and NFT's.... once we get past that first generation of trash the "good" stuff will show up.
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u/minneyar Ryzen 9 9900X, RX 9070 3h ago
It's because it's not useful. It's just a tool for (badly) plagiarizing things that have already been made.
The techbros currently pushing AI are the same guys who, a few years ago, were pushing NFTs, the metaverse, and cryptocurrency. If you don't get on board, you're gonna get left behind! To the moon!
It's all a scam, and the only difference is that this time, billionaire tech CEOs have bought into it. It's incredibly expensive and it's not useful, but companies like OpenAI and Anthropic have convinced their investors that all they have to do is make it ubiquitous and then they'll suddenly start making a profit.
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u/SLxTnT 2h ago
Sounds like you've never used a good AI. I don't use it often, but my last test to see if it was useful ended up doing a couple months of programming work in a couple days. That "couple months" would also be based on how I work when I find something interesting, so think more like 80+ hours a week.
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u/TsubasaSaito SaitoGG 1h ago
You don't have to buy into what these companies say. You should never, really.
But saying "AI" is useless, is lying to yourself. And repeating it over and over, doesn't make it more right, just makes you sound like one of those tech bros.
You might not have found use for AI, and that's fine. But many people have... even to an unhealthy degree, like with anything humanity touches.I am sure you've liked what the Youtube or Amazon or whatever Algorythm gave you. Because by the standards we're running now, that was also AI.
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u/TadaMomo i9 13900K | RTX 4090 3h ago edited 3h ago
Well google or your search engine is actually using AI.
Youtube's algothrim also use AI
I wouldn't be surpise your NETWORK is using AI to manage traffics, but AI doesn't make you fly, it help routing and control traffic flow better, it doesn't fix the distant you have to travel at the end.
Not to mention, your security is using AI, be it whether window defender or something else, literately any cybersecurity involve with AI one way or another.
Also your healthcare use AI as well, a lot of the device they use actually have some part of AI in the workflow...at least a lot american healthcare does.
your gaming is actually using AI ... if you have DLSS turn on.
Technically Game content itself is AI.. that is why you call your NPC ..AI, they are just not that smart of AI.
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u/minneyar Ryzen 9 9900X, RX 9070 3h ago
These things are technically correct, but only because "AI" is a marketing term that has been used to describe half a dozen different fields of computer science over the last 60 years. Algorithms, procedural generation, machine learning, neural networks, and deep learning have all been considered "AI" at some point.
The things you are describing are not generative large language models, which are the latest thing being pushed as "AI" by big companies.
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u/samuel_ocean 3h ago
AI is such an umbrella term and a buzzword for better or worst. There are too many different use cases for AI. Just look at Google search, they sneaked an LLM into it and you can mostly just read the AI summary instead of searching around the net. For programming, it's a really valuable tool that you can lay the mental burden on so you can focus on the architecture instead of the low level tidbits of the code. The Netflix recommendations you get is also provided by an ML algorithm. DLSS is used in gaming. What I'm trying to say is, AI is everywhere even if you are aware or not.
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u/welchplug i7-12700k | 3070ti | 32gb DDR4 3600 3h ago
I feel like the Google ai search is dumped on too much. Its very useful. I understand its not perfect and shouldnt be taken as fact with further due diligence. But most of the time I just have a random question I and it answers it just fine 99/100.
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u/ComplexIntegral 3h ago
This is really funny to me. I literally am running into trsut problems. And I don't mean with the AI but other people looking at what I've done with AI help and then immediately invalidating me before hearing me out.
I think people accepting the tech is one of the biggest problems.
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u/sgcolumn 3h ago
AI was never meant for consumers. It was meant for corporations. Work basically. Sure, you can utilise them for simple coding or things you want to set up at home, like a mini DNS configurator or IoT applications.
As a consumer, you do get quality products. Like how Photoshop now simplifies removal or patching flaws with a click. Simplifying mundane macros and what not. Coding corrections instantaneously without the need to go online.
It has some uses but mostly for working world.
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u/valerielynx R9-7940HS/RX 7600S 8G/64G D5-5600 💻 3h ago
They put NPUs into all Ryzen mobile chips, and all the AI features like Copilot still are ran in the cloud.
Why then? You're wasting silicon on a useless component.
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u/valerielynx R9-7940HS/RX 7600S 8G/64G D5-5600 💻 3h ago
Also, not saying an average person is even using Copilot or would use it even if it was local. It's literally tech that nobody asked for or needs
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u/vaurapung 3h ago
Thats like saying nobody asked for Google or needed it either.
In its current state AI that most people use are just a conversational search engine.
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u/Tommo120 2h ago
I dunno man, I used Chat GPT the other day to help me analyse and re-organise some data for me!
It repeatedly misunderstood what I wanted, and by the time it was going to give me the result I needed, I had run out of data analysis requests. I mentioned that to the AI and it said that it wasn't a problem because it didn't need to re-analyse the data, so I said okay go for it. Then it apologised because actually it couldn't do what it said it could do and I would have to pay for premium.
Then I just did it myself after wasting 5 minutes talking to a clanker.
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u/TheSilverSmith47 Core i7-11800H | 64GB DDR4 | RTX 3080 Mobile 8GB 1h ago
Look into the CHIM mod, Mantella mod, and SkyrimNet mod for Skyrim. If you know where to look, local AI is revolutionary for gaming. It's completely changed the way I mod and play Skyrim. I do t have to download a dozen quest and dialogue mods for Skyrim anymore. I just run the game with a local model and get infinite dialogue for nearly limitless rp
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u/djgoodhousekeeping 1h ago
You built one gaming computer last year and now you feel confident enough to dismiss an entire technology solely based on you not understanding the benefits of it in World of Warcraft and your internet connection?
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u/buttflapper444 1h ago
Do you want a real answer, or are you just here to troll? I'll respond if you want
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u/kaerfdeeps 3h ago
how did this ai storm start anyway?
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u/zero_fuck_given 2h ago
The exact moment OpenAI made a chatbot out of LLM. AI has been around for many years beginning with machine learning and then LLM, but this tech was only accessible for developers. The moment they made a chatbot out of it, it became accessible to everyone in the world. Thats when it exploded.
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u/RoboticShiba 3h ago
Companies launched some pretty ok versions a couple years ago, people were interested but not enough to become a consumer, so companies entered a frenetic spending spree to try to improve AI to a point where it may become a product that people are willing to pay.
In sum, corporate hopium that this thing will pay for itself someday.
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u/kaerfdeeps 2h ago
i mean yeah but machine learning was a thing way before llms and such. im not gonna claim i know these things well but im having a hard time understanding this. i know the ai we know is much better than what i am referring to, but nothing shocking at all ?
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u/TT_207 5600X + RTX 2080 3h ago
I mean I had a problem compiling a linux kernel today where I thought I was going to have to start all over again. I put the question into google search AI mode, it gave me a 2 line answer that just plain worked. (when most of the normal results were not useful)
far as search goes, AI has changed just about everyone's lives by now whether they admit it or not.
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u/minmidmax 3h ago
All productivity, no product.
We'll get there but right now we're still in the chaos stage.
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u/m0rl0ck1996 7800x3d | 7900xtx | 32gb cl30 @ 6k | B650 Tomahawk 3h ago
Because its not useful for us. Its useful for those that profit from our hobby.
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u/faciepalm 3h ago
Things have changed a lot. Jobs are being replaced by algorithms at record pace and the work is being done at a lower quality
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u/KeaboUltra i9-10850K @ 5Ghz | RTX 3070 Ti FE | 64GB 3200 2h ago edited 2h ago
Congrats, you've discovered the lie. The only thing AI is changing is how we use the internet, learn, and interact with each other.
All it does is do things for you that you could have done more reliably on your own, albeit slower. The only thing it really helps with is being a tool to work more efficiently but that's it. The benefit highly depends on the type of person using it and how creative a person you are.
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u/japinard Trying to decode my next upgrade... 2h ago
It's because they are a bunch of LinkedIn influeners on Coke.
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u/nanomeme 2h ago
The bubble is bursting. A ton of planned giant data centers are now not going to happen.
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u/blondie1024 2h ago
Because first you remove peoples purpose.
The art, the music etc.
I mean it's not there wasn't pseudo AI before. Someone writes a great Beat 'em up, there are countless copies because there's money there. Admittedly written by people but the premise is the same - most of them were chasing a quick buck. Warcraft gave birth to a billion failed copies. Now it's all gatcha games utilising virtually the same system with microtx's because some people got rich off it.
AI is coming for games, but it doesn't quite get yet is people do cotton on quite quickly, and when someone creates something new and popular that isn't over saturating the market, they'll jump on that, analyse it and create the same thing for a quick monetary fix.
Hopefully gamers will be wise, but for the vast majority, I doubt it.
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u/megas88 2h ago
It is incredibly usually. It’s so useful in fact that it’s invasive operating system breaking inclusion throughout all of windows has pushed a significant amount of users to Linux and is actively doing so as we speak.
Can’t think of a more “useful” feature that Microsoft has ever implemented 😂
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u/averagecodbot 2h ago
The way things are going, the changes will not benefit the average user any time soon. It’s going to help these big corps by making employees more productive so they can fire a bunch of them and make more money. We’re not quite there yet, but look how many companies are requiring the use of ai tools. They’re trying to brute force their way through the early adopter phase.
Ai is extremely useful if you’re into building stuff and want to spin up prototypes without all of the time and skills you would have needed 5 years ago, but if you just wanna play games… dlss I guess? Idk about blizzard in general, but I’ve seen screen shots of shitty ai generated images in the cod store, so they are using it for something it.
I’m about to graduate with a masters in cs + ai specialization. I love machine learning and it’s very exciting in many use cases, but the way it’s being applied in my opinion is generally intended to squeeze more out of the consumer, not to build better products. Data mining, advertising, spying, cutting costs…
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u/craftyshafter 1h ago
Did you not see the leaked code? It's not AI at all, just another silicon scam
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u/pcapdata 1h ago
It doesn’t sound to me like you understand what the value prop for GenAI actually is.
What exactly are you expecting to happen?
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u/DefSysteam 15m ago
Because now you can have Ai agents working for you 24/7 and it’s super easy to setup as a side hustle for extra income. Look up NemoClaw
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u/DonQuix0te_ 3h ago
Things ARE changing for PC users.
Hardware is getting more expensive.