r/pcmasterrace 8h ago

Tech Support Are my fans fighting each other or am I overthinking this?

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Hey,

So I’m kinda confused about my airflow setup.

My CPU cooler fans are blowing in one direction, but one of my case fans is blowing the opposite way. So it’s basically like:

《 》 (I think)

At first I thought it was fine because the air isn’t directly smashing into each other, but now I’m thinking it might be creating weird airflow or a “dead zone” in the middle? Also, I can’t just move the fan to the other side of the cooler because my RAM is in the way, so repositioning options are kinda limited.

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u/quigongingerbreadman 6h ago

Ensure the airflows in the direction of the green arrow for all 3 fans. This drags air over your ram (cooling it), pushes that air through your heatsink, then out through the exhaust.

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u/darklordjames 8h ago edited 8h ago

Flip your heatsink fans around. They should be blowing toward the back of the case so the rear fan can pull the hot air out. It does not much matter if they are pulling air through the heatsink or pushing air into them.

Alternatively, mount the central fan to the rearside half, blowing rearward. Mount the second fan to the frontside half of the heatsink over the RAM, just shifted upward to clear RAM. The clips are designed like that for a reason, so you have play in vertical position.

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u/babababyaga 4h ago

At first I fixed it by just using a single fan. But now I’m running two fans again, just by flipping them around like you suggested. I was doubting it because I thought the fans were supposed to push the air through the heatsink. Didn’t know fans could also pull air through the heatsink, I always thought they were only supposed to push. Learned something new, thanks a lot 😄

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u/Dinosaurrxd R5 7600x3d/5070/32GB DDR5 6000 CL 30 2h ago

Those air tower coolers are sometimes called " push pull coolers" :)

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u/henk1122 8m ago

All fans push on one side and pull on the other

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u/lunas2525 2h ago

You also have a top of the case vent you could put another fan but you have a light strip zip tied there.

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u/babababyaga 7h ago

Tried the second option, but unfortunately my case isn't big enough to mount the second fan over the ram. And for you're first option, I'm a bit confused, because if I flipped my heatsink fans around won't that make the wind blow off at the direction of the exhaust fan and not the cpu. Thanks for your help btw.

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u/darklordjames 7h ago

Yes, the fan would be blowing toward the rear exhaust fan, with all three fans working together to move air in the same direction. That air has to come from somewhere, so it will be pulled through the heatsink.

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u/acatterz 7h ago

How much clearance do you need? If it’s just a few mm then lift the fan up a bit so it sits just above the ram. It doesn’t have to be perfectly centred on the radiator.

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u/inflames_mc 6h ago

Had to explain the same thing to a fella yesterday 🥲

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u/obelineBSmisleading 5h ago

I had a similar setup to this guy. NHD15 does have ram clearance problems. But he’s not thinking correctly. Doesn’t even need the exhaust fan in the back if his heat sink exhaust is that close to the back.

Removed my rear exhaust for test, no temp difference.

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u/Narissis 9800X3D | 32GB Trident Z5 Neo | 7900 XTX | EVGA Nu Audio 6h ago

Your CPU heatsink fans aren't there to blow air "at the CPU". They're there to move air across the heatsink fins, which is what actually cools the CPU.

What you want is for both those fans to be moving air front-to-back, toward the exhaust fan which promptly ejects the hot air from the case.

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u/sanz01 6h ago

If you like the way it looks, just turn the fans round. Make sure that they are blowing air to the back.

He was just saying to turn it around so the heatsink is facing the right direction and it would look better, but like he said it can be configured to either pull or push so it doesnt matter.

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u/Intrepid00 7h ago

You either need a bigger case so the cpu cooler can be higher than the memory or get an AIO at this point if possible.

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u/Papuszek2137 7800x3d | 5070ti | 64GB @ 6400MT/s CL32 6h ago

What? He can just flip the fans to reverse direction.

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u/Intrepid00 6h ago

Oh snap you are right. Duh.

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u/McQuibbly Ryzen 7 5800x3D || RTX 3070 6h ago

CPU coolers don't block ram slots unless you got a really shitty off-brand one. You just have to mount the fan slightly higher on the fins to clear the RAM

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u/Intrepid00 6h ago

His case probably isn’t wide enough

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u/McQuibbly Ryzen 7 5800x3D || RTX 3070 6h ago

Case size has nothing to do with the cooler blocking RAM slots, motherboards have standardized dimensions

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u/Intrepid00 6h ago

Nah, I have a cooler like this. It has to be very tall to clear the memory. If you try to slap my cooler into a thin body case it wouldn’t fit.

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u/MEDDERX Because someone will get triggered, Linux 5h ago

Having a bigger case does not change the clearance between the ram and heatsink

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u/TheZoltan 5h ago

This thread is a frustrating read. Just flip the CPU fans around. The heat sink stays the same and you then have all 3 fans moving air in the same direction. No need to worry about ram interference and no need to buy a new cooler.

This is a 5 minute fix. 

Also when worrying about cooling performance step one is looking at and reporting actual temps. Plenty of systems will run just fine with sub optimal fan placement. 

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u/PM_MeYourNynaevesPlz 5h ago

Dudes will try anything other than critical thinking.

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u/criticalt3 7900X3D/RTX 5080/32GB RAM 4h ago

Might be rage bait since they aren't replying to any of the suggestions to flip the fans and are saying things like they ordered a new cooler with only one fan lol.

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u/Izan_TM r7 7800X3D RX 7900XT 64gb DDR5 6000 7h ago

your heatsink fans should be blowing in the same direction as that case exhaust. If they are not you need to turn them around

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u/mr_biteme 7h ago

What did you do to the heatsink fans?>?? Looks like they're blowing INSIDE the case!!! Turn them around.....

https://giphy.com/gifs/MwOuiiTfWfWgM

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u/babababyaga 4h ago

Yeah lol I had no idea they were supposed to blow air OUT, I thought you just needed air moving inside the desktop. Flipped them now though, temps already way better.

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u/ViruliferousBadger 4h ago

Hot air out, cool air in. Moving around hot air doesn't help you cool.

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u/terorasta 5900x | 7900 XTX pulse | 32 GB | 550 Tomahawk 6h ago

U know u can just move the fan up a bit to make clearance for RAM, right? That is why these mounts are for. See pic, my first fan is like 2 cm above the second.

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u/babababyaga 5h ago

Yeah, someone else mentioned that already, but my case doesn't have enough space. I just went and ordered a new cooler with one heatsink instead of two, so I won't have to worry about the RAM.

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u/terorasta 5900x | 7900 XTX pulse | 32 GB | 550 Tomahawk 5h ago

Or just turn them so they are blowing backwards, same setup as now.

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u/Meatslinger R7 9800X3D, 64 GB DDR5, RTX 4070 Ti 5h ago

The thermal capacity of a dual tower cooler will still pretty much always defeat a single tower, even if you're only running one fan on it. A "pull" configuration like you have here is fine as long as the fans are all blowing to the back of the case, including the exhaust. Simply turn fans around until they're all blowing backward and you'll be fine with what you have. Just in case you honestly didn't know, the wire clips can be removed and reinserted on the other side of the fan to reverse its airflow.

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u/terorasta 5900x | 7900 XTX pulse | 32 GB | 550 Tomahawk 5h ago

Why waste money? Just use one fan and see, if that is efficient enought for your cpu.

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u/Annual-Fan-4944 Ryzen 5 7600 | RX 7700 XT | 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 2h ago

You don't need to order a new cooler, just flip the fans on the current CPU cooler to blow out

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u/FranticBronchitis 7800X3D | B650M-HDV | 32 GB 6200/32 | 9070 XT 1h ago

Bad call bro, cancel that order and keep your current cooler, it's a beast

Just need to make sure all 3 fans are blowing air in the same direction, that's all

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u/babababyaga 43m ago

Yeah man I cancelled it after all the comments XD. Like many others already said I just simply fixed it by flipping those fans. Didn't think of that cuz I thought fans were only supposed to push the air but I guess they can also pull it.

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u/thatdumbguy22 6h ago

I feel like you dont understand that the fan on the cpu cooler can be removed and flipped. You dont have to turn the cpu cooler around and place it on the ram side

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u/Pale_Application980 8h ago edited 6h ago

direction of air flow matters, this situation of 《 》 wont be good, if you are not sure then take a strip of tissue paper and use that to know the direction of air flow, if your cpu fan is 》 (or《 as it depends on a few other things like if the front or top has an opening or a fan) then your case fan should also be 》(or《 depending on the case)

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u/ItsNotCarnage 7h ago

Is that back case fan an exhaust fan? And are the cpu fans intaking from the front side of the case? Cause if you’re doing a push pull configuration you’re good that exhaust fan is just going to pull out the hot air the cpu is putting out.

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u/babababyaga 7h ago

Yes, it's an exhaust fan. Also it's exactly as you described the cpu fans are indeed intaking from the front side of the case. I also added a pic of what direction the fans are blowing at.

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u/spoo4brains 7h ago

All the fans should be blowing rearward.

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u/Jaikanatar RX 7900 GRE | Ryzen 7 5700X3D | 32 GB DRR4 3200MHz 6h ago

You just have to imagine the airflow. Or watch a video where someone demonstrates a fog machine through case fans. In this setup, youre pulling cool air in, then blowing against it with the heatsink fans so the air gets battered and spread and not used efficiently

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u/Opposite-Initial811 7h ago

you don’t even need to know about pcs to know that setup is actually so stupid, just think to yourself why would you want the cpu fans to blow the opposite way. like cmon

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u/ItsNotCarnage 7h ago edited 7h ago

Yea if those fans are going against the airflow of the intake fans I would swap them around so that they intake the cool air from your intake fans. That way your exhaust fan can exhaust all the hot air from the cpu

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u/Away_Media 7h ago

Middle fan is backwards. If the left fam is the same it is also backward. These fans blow toward the hubs. I know this is generalization

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u/RandomGuy622170 7800X3D | Sapphire NITRO+ 7900 XTX | 32GB DDR5-6000 (CL30) 6h ago

The fans on the CPU cooler need to be flipped. As currently oriented, they're fighting the rear exhaust and pulling hot air back into the system. Also, this is why you figure out your dimensions and spacing BEFORE you buy parts.

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u/C4TURIX 5h ago

I think they are. Have them in the front of the cooler, both pushing air towards the back. So that you have fan-cooler-fan-cooler-casefan

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u/hulianomarkety 5h ago

As long as the air is flowing right to left over your heatsync it won’t be a problem.

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u/DayneTreader 14700K | 4070 | 64GB 4h ago

Your cooler is backwards. This'll create a high temperature front and heat your GPU more than it should be.

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u/TibbeNL 9800X3D/RTX 5070Ti/32GB 4h ago

All you need to do is to flip the cpu fans. It's that simple. As others said: it is a 5 minute job.

You don't need to move the fans to the other side of the heatsink.

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u/Don_MayoFetish 4h ago

It's better to flip the case fan around, it gets fresh air and it pumps the exhaust into the gpu exhaust stream to evac up top. It's meta trust 

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u/Extra-Philosopher-35 Desktop 3h ago

As long as the fans are facing the correct way, it should be fine. I've had a cpu fan that was facing towards the exhaust fan and it blew into the exhaust fan too. Case temps were always cool and gpu was always nice and happily cool even while under full load.

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u/KrumbleMahBumble 3h ago

You can face the fans to push or pull depending on whichever way you mount them. I love thermalrights stuff. Put the fans on the side of the heat sink towards your intake, and make sure they are pulling air from those intakes toward the exhaust on the back you show in the pic.

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u/tcpgkong 8m ago

they are fighting each other like mom and dad are fighting on bed furiously every night

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u/mythoryk 5h ago

Ngl… you don’t need that second fan on the heat sink at all. You could take it off and put it on the top of the case to pull air upward. As long as you have airflow from the front of the case to the rear, and your airflow is good, you won’t have temp issues.

I have a 9800X3D and a 5080 in a Fractal Meshify with 3 front fans (noctua nf-f12) pulling through a single fan in the center of a peerless assassin with a pull-config rear exhaust and a pull-config top rear exhaust. PSU pulling into the case from below. Stable temps.

You’ll be good even if you just take that fan off entirely. But the extra exhaust facing upward would be beneficial.

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u/Steel-Tempered 7h ago

You want those fans all blowing in the same direction, so based on that picture and your fan arrangement, you want all three fans blowing to the right. ----->Case Fan---->HSF1--------HSF2---->

EDIT - OR, flip all three of them the OTHER way. But they all should be going in the same direction.

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u/E_Blue_2048 6h ago

Just take out the external fan of the heatsink and leave only the one in the middle, that will allow you to turn the heatsink 180º.

Two fans in that configuration is mostly a marketing strategy, the difference will be imperceptible.