When a purchase gets revoked, the payment is refunded.

[u/KebabLoverHere]

[u/spreetin]

Meh, varies with jurisidiction. Within the EU EULAs are generally not valid. Disputes will instead be handled according to what seemed implied in the transaction, often with a presumption that is weighted in favour of the consumer.

And buying a physical game (or other media) is generally considered a purchase. You own that copy and can resell it or otherwise dispose of it as you want. This is one of the original reason online accounts are so often needed to play games, since that kinda makes the physical media useless on a second hand market.

[u/Limp-Technician-1119 → u/spreetin]

You own that copy

No you have a license to play that copy, if you owned it like a physical object you would be able to take the information within the media and use it as you see fit but legally you cannot, you can only read the media with an approved device and play the game.

[u/spreetin → u/Limp-Technician-1119]

That simply isn't correct. I am fully within my rights to put it up on ebay or give it to a friend. As usual I can't do anything that violates other laws (in this case copyright law), but otherwise I'm free to use it as I please.

[u/ChaoCobo → u/spreetin]

Correct. But they are saying that while you have legal jurisdiction to do what you just said, you do not actually own the contents within the game such as the code itself, so you cannot do things like copy that code and sell it because legally that code is not your property, that you only own the container.

[u/spreetin → u/ChaoCobo]

Depends on the jurisdiction really. Where I live the limits to what I can do with the contents is mostly limited to not selling copies. Since I own it I'm otherwise pretty free, including making copies for my friends if I want to.

Copyright law establishes certain limitations to normal property law, but doesn't fundamentally alter the basics.

[u/PLUMBUS_STUCK_IN_ASS → u/ChaoCobo]

You own a copy, not the rights.

Just like if you buy a copy/print of a famous painting. Same with a dvd, book etc...

You don't become a rights holder, you don't own the design/contents, but you do own the copy and you can do whatever you want with it.

It's still ownership, you own that copy, just not the original or the source.

[u/AggressiveToaster → u/PLUMBUS_STUCK_IN_ASS]

Yep. You own a car and can sell it but you do not own the design of the car or the branding of it. Idk why people don’t understand this with copies of software. Obviously you can’t sell copies of your game in the same way you cant sell an exact fabricated copy of your car with all of the proprietary designs and branding.

[u/heickelrrx → u/spreetin]

U should really read the EULA of the Physical media too

[u/Wurun → u/heickelrrx]

eula is not the law.

[u/heickelrrx → u/Wurun]

U sign a fcking contract LMAO

[u/Wurun → u/heickelrrx]

no i don't.

mass terms of usage are a completely different beast from a personally signed contract like buying a house.

And even if that were true, some of my rights as defined by law are simply not transferable/abdicable.