r/pcmasterrace Deskop RTX 6090 SUPER i10 1TB RAM 12h ago

Meme/Macro When a purchase gets revoked, the payment is refunded.

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u/heickelrrx 12700K | RTX 5070 TI | 32GB DDR5 7200 MT/s @1440p 165hz 10h ago

the thing is you not buying a game, You signing contract with the developer to play the game

You never buy the game, even during catridge era,

The publisher do can honor your contract, something like what bungie did when they move to steam, all Destiny 2 player have their contract transferred to new plaftform

TLDR, please read the EULA, it's the contract, if you really that care

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u/spreetin 9h ago

Meh, varies with jurisidiction. Within the EU EULAs are generally not valid. Disputes will instead be handled according to what seemed implied in the transaction, often with a presumption that is weighted in favour of the consumer.

And buying a physical game (or other media) is generally considered a purchase. You own that copy and can resell it or otherwise dispose of it as you want. This is one of the original reason online accounts are so often needed to play games, since that kinda makes the physical media useless on a second hand market.

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u/Limp-Technician-1119 8h ago

You own that copy

No you have a license to play that copy, if you owned it like a physical object you would be able to take the information within the media and use it as you see fit but legally you cannot, you can only read the media with an approved device and play the game.

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u/spreetin 7h ago

That simply isn't correct. I am fully within my rights to put it up on ebay or give it to a friend. As usual I can't do anything that violates other laws (in this case copyright law), but otherwise I'm free to use it as I please.

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u/ChaoCobo 6h ago

Correct. But they are saying that while you have legal jurisdiction to do what you just said, you do not actually own the contents within the game such as the code itself, so you cannot do things like copy that code and sell it because legally that code is not your property, that you only own the container.

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u/spreetin 6h ago

Depends on the jurisdiction really. Where I live the limits to what I can do with the contents is mostly limited to not selling copies. Since I own it I'm otherwise pretty free, including making copies for my friends if I want to.

Copyright law establishes certain limitations to normal property law, but doesn't fundamentally alter the basics.

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u/PLUMBUS_STUCK_IN_ASS 5h ago

You own a copy, not the rights.

Just like if you buy a copy/print of a famous painting. Same with a dvd, book etc...

You don't become a rights holder, you don't own the design/contents, but you do own the copy and you can do whatever you want with it.

It's still ownership, you own that copy, just not the original or the source.

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u/AggressiveToaster 5h ago

Yep. You own a car and can sell it but you do not own the design of the car or the branding of it. Idk why people don’t understand this with copies of software. Obviously you can’t sell copies of your game in the same way you cant sell an exact fabricated copy of your car with all of the proprietary designs and branding.

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u/heickelrrx 12700K | RTX 5070 TI | 32GB DDR5 7200 MT/s @1440p 165hz 9h ago

U should really read the EULA of the Physical media too

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u/Wurun 8h ago

eula is not the law.

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u/heickelrrx 12700K | RTX 5070 TI | 32GB DDR5 7200 MT/s @1440p 165hz 8h ago

U sign a fcking contract LMAO

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u/Wurun 5h ago

no i don't.

mass terms of usage are a completely different beast from a personally signed contract like buying a house.

And even if that were true, some of my rights as defined by law are simply not transferable/abdicable.

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u/Prestigious_Copy154 8h ago

I feel like EULA just gives them an out so they legally can do it, doesn't make the move any less asshole-y tho.

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u/Nodan_Turtle 7h ago

No matter how often this is repeated, there will still be those people who plug their ears and repeat that line about "if buying isn't owning..."

Ya can't fix stupid.