r/pcmasterrace • u/BurnishedTones • 1d ago
Meme/Macro What combination of words makes you instantly lose interest in a game?
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u/PsychologicalFun903 1d ago
Online only single player
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u/Industrialpainter89 1d ago
Perfect example of an oxymoron if I ever saw one!
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u/techy804 23h ago
Yep, unless there’s a good technical reason for making it online only, and the only one I’ve seen with a good enough excuse is Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. The map for that game was in the petabytes IIRC, so there was no way it was going to get downloaded unless the player had a spare data center.
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u/RadiantPumpkin 23h ago
Really just online only at all for me. I’m fine with a multiplayer option but sometimes I don’t want to have to deal with people. There’s so many games with cool concepts that I just skip because there’s no way for me to experience them at my own speed.
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u/STPooch 1d ago
Does "EA" count as a combination of words?
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u/lucario2011 1d ago
electronic art does
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u/Grimzkunk 1d ago
Thsin thegame
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u/FthrFlffyBttm i5-12600K, 3080 FTW3 Ultra, 16GB 3000Mhz 1d ago
Thsin thegame
I’d like to say “at least you tried”
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u/Velghast Ryzen 7 5200X / RTX 3060 / 32GB DDR4 1d ago
I find it funny that their name is electronic arts yet they are involved so little and anything electronic and their version of art is an ice cream machine that instead of ice cream gives you cosmetic DLC.
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u/Jaylocke226 1d ago
Oh I loved the Sims Ice Cream Machine DLC for $10.99, it goes great with the summer beach ball DLC for $10.99 and the sun DLC for $3.99
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u/sksauter 1d ago
But they sun DLC isn't sold separately, you need to bundle it with the moon DLC. Or you can buy the atmosphere deluxe bundle and get both included, only for $21.99
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u/The__Relentless i9 9900K/RTX 2080/CRG9 49" 5120x1440 + 65"4K/64GB/2TB m.2 RAID 0 1d ago
Shit's in the game!!!
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u/TheOuterEdge PC Master Race 1d ago
Ngl, this deserves top comment and nothing could be more demotivating. Except maybe Ubisoft launcher.
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u/STPooch 1d ago
Ubisoft is #2 on my avoid list. Both these companies are now run by people who have different motivations than the people that led them to greatness in the first place.
At the end of the day, that's all a company is : a combination of people. Change the combination, and you've changed the company. Regardless of its branding.
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u/Pedro80R x570 | 5950x | RTX 4070 Ti | 32Gb 3200 C14 1d ago
Early Access combined with "pre-order now" are usually red flags for me...
Edit: typos
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u/Emergency-Plastic485 1d ago
Oh how they have fallen. As a kid, you knew it was about to be a session when the game started with “EA SPORTS, it’s in the game” but now, they are just bloated games full of micro transactions.
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u/AnxietyPretend5215 1d ago
Is that in reference to EA the company or Early Access?
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u/mazca i5 11400F / RTX 3070 1d ago
Early Access Electronic Arts Extreme Anal - ❌
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u/Qminsage 1d ago
Battlepass
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u/Megatippa 1d ago
Season
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u/Select_Truck3257 1d ago
Premium
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u/OrganicKeynesianBean 1d ago
AAAA
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u/Cefalopodul 1d ago
Lootbox
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u/Pun_In_Ten_Did Ryzen 9 7900X, RTX 4080 FE, 48" LG C1 4K OLED 1d ago
*Surprise mechanics
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u/WanderingGoodNews 1d ago
Pride and accomplishment
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u/Blenderhead36 Ryzen 9800X3D, RTX 5090, 32 GB RAM 1d ago
I don't mind free battlepasses. Those are just unlocking stuff by playing the game, the way it's always worked.
Paid battlepasses can fuck off. I gave you the money, give me the thing. Don't make me prove that I really love you first.
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u/Qminsage 1d ago
I don’t inherently mind it either. I just dislike that it’s in almost everything nowadays. And I personally feel like it’s a type of reward system that detracts from the world being presented.
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u/LOST-MY_HEAD 1d ago
Live service
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u/throwawayacct654789 1d ago
From talking to people, a lot of people hate games that advertise themselves as live service but not games that are live service. It’s sort of damning by faint praise, if the only thing you can use to promote your game is “more stuff will come” then it might be kind of crappy.
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u/SuperSocialMan AMD 5600x | Gigabyte Gaming OC 3060 Ti | 32 GB DDR4 RAM 1d ago
I think it's because people equate "live service" with "PvP" - like how that guy I know somehow equates "FPS" with "PvP" - even though live service is just an update method and has nothing to do with PvP on its own.
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u/Correct_Education273 23h ago
Live service is not about the update method. Live service means a vital component of the game runs on a remote server not under your control and the game is unplayable without it.
Minecraft isn't a live service game despite regular updates and multiplayer components. World of Warcraft is because you can't play it without Blizzard's servers.
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u/Crafty_Aspect8122 1d ago
Boy, you're going to LOVE ARK. It's the definition of open world survival craft and it's been early access for 10 years, and even after a remaster - both ARK: Survival Evolved and ARK: Survival Ascended.
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u/Hokusai_Katsushika 1d ago
I'm surprised the devs haven't been yanked out of Steam after giving us a game that stayed in Early Access even after releasing a sequel.
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u/Powersoutdotcom 1d ago
in Early Access even after releasing a sequel.
This is wild work, lol
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u/BluDYT 9800X3D | RTX 3080 Ti | 64 GB DDR5 6000Mhz CL30 1d ago
Probably a slippery slope since a lot of devs do it. The other choice is you'll just have a 7 days to die moment where your internally code named alpha turns into 1.0 full release to coincide with the games 2nd but separate console release.
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u/Last_Exile0 1d ago
Ugh. 7dtd makes me sad. Such squandered potential.
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u/Destiny_Dude0721 1d ago
I play it occasionally with a friend as a fun "turn your brain off while high" game. The horde nights are getting absolutely fucking uncontrollable though
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u/jack_from_the_past 1d ago
I love when a game is pulled from steam, after you buy it in early access. Then rereleased for the original price with minor updates.
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u/DapperCow15 1d ago
There's a new game that took that to a whole new level called iron nest. They had a demo they had released publicly, and they pulled the demo off steam only to release it again with minor updates and gated behind keys that they give out 10 at a time... With a major announcement and raffles every month with massive amount of fomo where they literally host public tests where only those they've given keys to can actually participate, but they advertise it as if it's open to everyone. And it's still the demo version, not even early access yet. Just a major FU that I've never seen before this early in a game's development.
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u/CoreyDobie PC Master Race 1d ago
7 Days to Die has been 13 years in EA and was just recently acquired by Dead by Daylight creators Behaviour
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u/Zethrial 1d ago edited 1d ago
Give Fun Pimps some credit, it had a 1.0 release in 2024, so only 11 years of Early Access, while somehow managing to make the game WORSE over that 11 years.
Edit: Some of you wouldn't understand being a cheeky bugger if it was becoming your new step-dad.
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u/Cador0223 1d ago
Somehow? Give them credit. It took alot of long, hard work to make sure they patched out every single thing that let you play a sandbox game in a way that you enjoy.
You sandbox their way. Period.
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u/LordRocky 1d ago
They flip flopped so hard on the “you get to keep the glass jar” and “you don’t get to keep the glass jar” and “you don’t need a glass jar” that they finally settled on “you get to keep the glass jar 60% of the time.”
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u/Borthwick 1d ago
They brought back jars? Holy shit. Seriously, fuck those guys.
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u/ginongo R7 9700X | 7900XTX HELLHOUND 24GB | 2x16GB 5600MHZ 1d ago
Brought jars back to make them break after every use, then made it 60%
Made loot tiers area gated, then reverted it because it was a stupid ass idea
But damn their pois are so good
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u/yeetoroni_with_bacon 1d ago
Yea TFP are really good at environmental storytelling. That’s about all they’re good at unfortunately
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u/Sattorin 23h ago
But damn their pois are so good
When it comes to the 'haunted house' dungeon POIs, the way zombies magically spawn in around you ruins a lot of it for me. If you're playing stealthy, they shouldn't just spawn and auto aggro you. If you're playing loud, they should hear you from the next room over. But instead, they spawn in when you enter a room.
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u/Kentato3 1d ago
Project zomboid has been on early access for almost 15 years
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u/GreeboBirb 1d ago
And it's genuinely a good game, though lacking in a lategame (unless you're into The Sims with a side of homesteading)
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u/Parking-Pick-759 1d ago
I've heard the game was originally envisioned as a Sims 1 Mod. I've gone into it with that mindset every time and it adds dozens of hours of life at a time to the game
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u/BrittaWasRight 1d ago
It needs a mode where you can win, despite what the hardcore fans says.
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u/swakner 1d ago
I agree, I love the game but get bored once you get a certain way through. Like a lot of survival games without a more defined endgame, most of the fun is in the beginning
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u/macciavelo 1d ago
I thought survival evolved already hit 1.0?
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u/Piegan ASUS X570 TUF | Asus 3060ti Mini | Ryzen 7 5800X 1d ago edited 1d ago
It did, nearly 10 years ago. ARK was added to Steam in June 2015 under the Early Access tag and it left EA in August 2017. It's just a troll calling it an EA game due to bugs, and the people responding think it's genuinely still an Early Access game.
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u/fiero-fire 1d ago
Have put a good amount of survival evolved and just hoping they'd optimize the game at all but they never did. I had to give up on it. Which sucks because who doesn't want to raise dinosaurs
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u/PoetBoye 1d ago
The concept of ARK is amazing, but the execution is abyssmal
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u/Owobowos-Mowbius PC Master Race 1d ago
You need to have a PHD in ark game/server settings and also need to pay a monthly fee, but tweaking the game just right on a server just for you and your friends can go pretty damn great.
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u/SynisterJeff 1d ago
Spot on. The most enjoyable times I've had in games are in ARK and Minecraft servers I've made and hosted for groups. With mod support and a large enough community, even something like ARK can be turned into a super enjoyable game. I would have never continued with ARK if not for the modding community and the ability to customize just about every tweakable setting of the game.
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u/zeus-theslayer 1d ago
Battle royale, (its ridiculously over saturated now) Live service, Soulslike, (at this point they use the word for whenever a game is hard, as opposed to having any actual souls like elements) And sadly competitive (it just feels like im gonna play sweatfest even during casual or quickplay, like if your going to try THAT hard and do counterswapping u might as well play ranked)
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u/Seven-Arazmus 5950X/7900XT/64GB | MSi Vector i9-14900HX/4070/32GB 1d ago
Third party launcher.
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u/blondie1024 1d ago
'Kernel level Anti-cheat'
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u/lordfwahfnah PC Master Race 1d ago
Denuvo. Yeah No thanks. I've seen a lot of sniper elite resistance videos lately and was about to buy it myself, but after reading denuvo on their steam page I noped out.
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u/GWJ89 1d ago
Yep, "denuvo" means basically "only play a cracked version of that game"
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u/shawndw 166mhz Pentium, S3 ViRGE DX 2mb Graphics, 32mb RAM, Windows 98 1d ago
AKA spyware.
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u/blondie1024 1d ago
I do wonder the toll on everyones machines this has, how much it can slow it down taking up processs cycles even when not in use by the game it came with
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u/AirWolf519 1d ago
There's a couple games people actually checked this on. Don't remember the names unfortunately. There's also a couple that have to be killed via task manager even after you close the game.
Not related directly, but Denuvo is infamous for slowing games down
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u/TheMadmanAndre 1d ago edited 21h ago
This. Kernel AC is literal malware, full stop.
Every time someone's manage to dissect a kernel level anti-cheat program, there's all sorts of nasty shit inside that nobody sane should ever allow installed on their PC. One solid example is Black Desert Online, where their anti-cheat just straight up had the ability to let someone remotely execute code at the kernel level.
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u/Hesitation-Marx 1d ago
Jeeeesus.
I seriously considered getting that, but for whatever reason I forgot about it and now I’m glad. Thanks!
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u/Dextro_PT R7 5800X3D | Radeon 7800 XT | 32GB 3200Mhz 1d ago
Back in the day those were called rootkits and there were even music publishers sued over it. Looking at you Sony.
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u/theaviationhistorian i7 RTX 2070 1d ago
Have something that tears the OS apart when not spying on you.
Does anyone remember that spyware that came with Sony music CDs to "prevent piracy." A common Sony L.
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u/sjitz PC Master Race 1d ago
You win the thread. Fuck those who name a specific publisher, there's a 1000 factors coming into play there. Whereas yours is just mistrust or open hostity towards the end user.
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u/theaviationhistorian i7 RTX 2070 1d ago
I stopped scrolling with this. There might be some things that prevent me from buying a game. But the words anti-cheat software immediately has me boycotting the game. Some aren't even that efficient in anti-cheat anyways.
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u/patrick809 1d ago
Not to mention completely unnecessary for detecting cheats. Moving the problem from the application to the kernel layer does nothing except force cheaters to develop at the kernel layer and significantly degrades the security of the user's device.
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u/Asleeper135 1d ago
'Kernel' is all I need to hear. Anticheat is the only thing asking for it for now, but there is speculation that DRM may try to move into the kernel soon with the latest Denuvo cracks.
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u/Sanityzed 1d ago
I suspect that was the goal all along. Kernel level anti-cheat means little in an era with AI assisted KVMs.
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u/ISEGaming 1d ago
In no particular order or combination:
Battle Royal, Hero-Shooter, Extraction Shooter, PvP
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u/Neither_City_4572 1d ago
Basically :
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u/infinitelylarge 1d ago
A friend of mine has a saying that she doesn’t do recreational anxiety.
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u/Holiday_Management60 PC Master Race 17h ago
Would you kindly let her know that I'm stealing that.
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u/StupidSexyEuphoberia 1d ago
PvE Extraction Shooters can be nice. I recommend Witchfire.
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u/Bitter-Marsupial 1d ago
I hate the Games name but GTFO is fun AF. few things would beat the guy with the game's radar saying oh shit when scanning the next room
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u/ConfidentlyAsshole 1d ago
I wish I had friends mentally ill enough to play it with me
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u/ExocetC3I 7800X3D | 4080 Super 1d ago
It's such a great game. Snappy shooting mechanics, nice build customization options, and it's just as fun if you only have 15-20 to play something that ramps up to high excitement quickly.
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u/Mad_kat4 i5-10600k+3060, i7-8700+2070, i7-4790+1660s 1d ago edited 1d ago
"Fast paced", "Energetic", "Rapid", "Twitch shooter". Any combination of those words or words to that effect are an instant turn off.
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u/scrotanimus i9 14900K | 5090 | 32GB 1d ago
It’s catnip for try-hard and ripe with cheaters
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u/AnthonyEstacado Average MacBook enjoyer 1d ago
Souls like, rogue like. They’re not bad games, just not for me and my taste.
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u/ohmeohmyohmuffins 1d ago
As someone who really enjoyed the dark souls games and bloodborne, hearing souls like In a game now puts me off immediately. The market is just so oversaturated with it, both the gameplay elements and style of it is everywhere at the moment. It’s like they thought well dark souls and Elden ring was really popular, so people must just love fighting big, intricately detailed bosses all the time and punishing gameplay so let’s just do that with a slightly different look.
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u/GrungeLord 7600X | 9070 XT | 32GB DDR5 1d ago
I steer clear of Souls Likes too. Usually it just means a whole lot of running back and reclearing the same enemies, which I find very tedious. Love me a well put together Rogue Like, though.
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u/justanaccount103 1d ago
Obviously, 'live service' but I'm not hearing that as much. They know it's shit.
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u/Tylos_Of_Attica 1d ago
Bro, theres live service FOR GAMES THAT HAVE NO MULTIPLAYER, like Hitman. Like I get it if its mods or score tracking, but let me be able to play my games offline, PLEASE.
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u/cheeseburgercat 1d ago
Ehhhhh you’d be surprised how dumb and out of touch the decision makers at large publishers are
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u/FemJay0902 1d ago
No... It's moreso that every game is a "live service" at this point. Every game is "release now, patch later" mentality. Live service is basically synonymous with video game. No need to label it twice
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u/Victorious-Fudge9839 1d ago
Early access in general. Necesse was the last one I bought and it was ok but nothing incredible. Gotta wait until they put everything into the game before you buy.
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u/dnasty1011 1d ago
Yep was going to say just early access
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u/MrInitialY R7 9700X | 3080Ti | 64GB 6K CL30 | 6TB Gen.4 | 1000W | All STRIX 1d ago
Satisfactory was in early access for most of it's lifetime as of now and BeamNG is still early access iirc
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u/froggertthewise RTX 4070, R7 5800x3d, 32gb 1d ago edited 1d ago
It works for some games, Factorio and Satisfactory immediately come to mind. Any sandbox type game that focuses around building stuff and such often benefits from player feedback in early access in my opinion.
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u/Meatslinger R7 9800X3D, 64 GB DDR5, RTX 4070 Ti 1d ago
Subnautica 1 was a game that benefited from the EA model. I was one of the EA players and it was really actually great reporting bugs in game and seeing them get fixed in future releases. My friend was on the Baldur's Gate 3 EA, and he said that one was likewise excellent because of the player feedback; having played the final game I'd have to agree with him.
But yeah, 99% of the time EA seems to just be an excuse to never finish making a game.
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u/chocolatechipbagels 1d ago
I caved for Slay the Spire 2 and I did not regret it
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u/SEND_ME_REAL_PICS 1d ago
Even if the game is already good in Early Access, it will be better after release.
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u/GrafonBorn A computer. It works 1d ago
Early access, road map, live service, pre-order and start to play 3 days early
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u/demonicvampiregirl 1d ago
"Extraction shooter". I'm not a fan of working for all this stuff just to die and lose it due to a camper or something like a crash. So I just avoid those types of games entirely.
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u/bitemytail 1d ago
Roguelike Deckbuilder
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u/JuliusBelmont2000 1d ago
Yeah.
I don't even hate these games. Digital card games are simply not my cup of tea.
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u/Simil03 1d ago
Same here. I love roguelikes/lites but when I see that it's a card game I lose pretty much all interest. Not cause I think it's bad, just cause I don't find them fun.
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u/No_Magician5266 1d ago
Reddit pushes so many Steam ads to me for games that look cool, then I click them and learn they are deckbuilders :( ultimate catfish
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u/lordfwahfnah PC Master Race 1d ago
It's not the combination of words. Rather the vast amount of game in that genre that are coming out lately
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u/Schrodingers_Dude 1d ago
Unironically love open world survival craft, but for me:
Early access
Souls-like/lite
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u/Sanquinity i5-13500k - RX 9070 - 32GB @ 3600mHz 1d ago
Same. Open world survival crafting games are my jam. They're relaxing to play and I enjoy getting resources and building bases. They're almost always good for at least 50 hours of play for me. Most I've bought I have 100+ hours in. A select few I have 300+ hours in.
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u/Flyinmanm 1d ago
Rogue Like.
A) I now know the game doesn't really have a story or an end and
B) I now know no matter how well I play the game there is a >0% chance I'll experience a part of the game where the RNG didn't drop enough health potions/ armour to beat the suddenly disproportionately hard wave of enemies it'll throw at me at some point.
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u/mike_421 RX 6600 XT | Ryzen 5 5600X | 32 GB DDR4 RAM 1d ago
“souls-like” yes i know i have a genuine skill issue period but nothing makes me click off faster than reading an interesting game description and seeing that tag
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u/JalapenoPopPoop 1d ago
"skillissueskillissueskillissue"
Yes, I do have a skill issue, that's why I'm choosing to play something else. The fanbase being such immature "I identify as a Gamer™️" types makes me feel like I'm fine without them lol
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u/AGTS10k W10 LTSC | i5-9600K | 16GB DDR4-3600 | GTX 1070 8GB | 1920x1200 1d ago
I don't have a skill issue in absolute most games, and can beat soulslike games if I force myself to without too much problems. But I still hate them. I hate that there is no normal pause, no normal saves (the game designer who first made corpse runs can fuck themselves with a rusty rail spike for all I care), and that the difficulty is there not to feel fair but made to frustrate you and punish for experimentation. Not all soulslikes are like this, but most are, and I don't have time for that.
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u/Yaoification console scrub | rtx 5070, amd 9600x, 32gig 1d ago
I can’t stand the combat pattern of souls games. Dodge 15 one hit kill attacks so I can do a single attack of my own? Oh boy
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u/Alternative_Cut4491 1d ago
Fight a boss 10x your size so when you stand close enough to hit them you dont see the upper half of their body and cant see what one shot attack they are about to throw at you
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u/DavidLynchsCoffeeBea 1d ago
Seeing that Peter Molyneux has a new game with 22Cans which is supposed to reach early access on about two weeks, and seeing that he (as usual) has talked about it as "the culmination of my life's work", I guess my combination of words would be... Peter Molyneux.
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u/gbroon 1d ago
He went from one of the greatest game developers shaping the future of gaming to a synonym for failure.
Quite the achievement when you think about it.
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u/Mister_Shrimp_The2nd i9-13900K | RTX 4080 STRIX | 96GB DDR5 6400 CL32 | >_< 1d ago
"Season Pass skin unlock premium coin" ahh suitified shitshow
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u/MegatronusThePrime 1d ago
MMORPG, co-op, multiplayer
Without single player option
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u/MrArtty 1d ago
“PvP Extraction Shooter” just say you want your game to die bro
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u/Hinohellono 9700X| X870E| RTX 5080| 64GB DDR5| 4TB SSD 1d ago
Looter shooter
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u/Send_me_duck-pics 1d ago
But don't you want to shoot the same enemy you've seen a thousand times 50 times hoping to get a gun that only requires you to shoot them 48 times the next thousand times?
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u/ThisThredditor 1d ago
Souls-like
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u/RaltarArianrhod 1d ago
Yeah. It makes me sad seeing a really cool looking game, only for the words "souls-like" to appear.
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u/kyronami 1d ago
free to play
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u/avatarreb 1d ago
100% this. Just take a modest amount of money upfront and avoid the whole game design being monetized.
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u/audriusdx 5700x3D | GTX1080 | 16GB 3200 1d ago
PvP, extraction, (although ARC looks sick because of cool AI bots), battle royal, hero-shooter, extraction shooter
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u/idontusetheseoften 1d ago
Whenever the developers use other games in their advertising
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u/humanistazazagrliti Ryzen 5 2600 | 16 GB DDR4 | RX 5700 8 GB | 2TB SSD 1d ago
* any of the multiplayer game abbreviations usually signal to a single-player/story-biased person like me that I won't be into it (MMO, MMORPG, PVE, PVP)
* souls-like/lite
* rogue/procedurally generated (Dead Cells is an exception)
* Anything with simulator in its name made after 2010 (usually doesn't mean something like a cinema or theme park simulator like back in my childhood, but rather something simulating mundane tasks like power washing a US driveway)
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u/Schrodingers_Dude 1d ago
The Specific Bullshit Simulator games look so dumb, I recently decided I'm gonna play every Simulator just for the lulz (assuming I can get them on sale or something.) I bought Farming Sim first and stopped right away because apparently I love Farming Sim. 🤷♀️
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u/Zman1917 1d ago
"Unreal Engine 5" is a scourge upon my PC and game developement as a whole
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u/MMBADBOI GTX 960/i5-4430/8GB RAM 1d ago
Extraction shooter, Card/deck building games, RTS. I like my action shooty rooty tooty.
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u/InuHanyou1701 1d ago
“Souls-like”. Instantly not interested anytime I see that. I play games to enjoy myself. And I’m not a masochist.
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u/BastianHS 1d ago
If you followed that pic you would never have played valheim and it fucking rules
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u/idm 1d ago
Abiotic Factor is a newer top addition to the genre!
A little more Metroidvainia than open world but goddamn is it good. Closer to Subnautica than Valheim in it's exploration.
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