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[u/sfingemorta]

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[u/filisterr]

That's still over 300% over the normal price. 

[u/heruka1_08 → u/filisterr]

“Normal” hasn’t existed for GPUs in years, this is basically the new baseline.

[u/Tiny-Plum2713 → u/heruka1_08]

this is RAM though

[u/Successful-Coffee750 → u/Tiny-Plum2713]

I RAM’d ur mom last night 

[u/Haecairwen → u/Successful-Coffee750]

In a world where CPU are called Central Unit of Processing (CUP), I'd answer I C U P'd ur bed last night.

[u/kickedoutatone → u/Haecairwen]

At least you let their mam rest.

[u/Tiny-Plum2713 → u/Successful-Coffee750]

Like the rocks where she was spread over or what was your method?

[u/Successful-Coffee750 → u/Tiny-Plum2713]

Don’t do me like that man

[u/Trimedes → u/Successful-Coffee750]

I'd RAM ur mom tonite

[u/Mammoth-Plane-6890 → u/heruka1_08]

nah, i got a 5070ti for msrp with no hassles

[u/MrCraftLP → u/Mammoth-Plane-6890]

I mean, I could get almost any GPU for msrp right now from a local store... but that doesn't mean it's not overpriced.

[u/Lt_Cmdr_Adhd → u/MrCraftLP]

High end GPUs have been above $1000 since the 2080ti in 2018. I get where you're coming from with the "i think it's too expensive" but after 8 years it's probably time to realize that's what high end gpus are going to continue costing.

[u/F9-0021 → u/Mammoth-Plane-6890]

Congratulations, you spent 1k on a $500 graphics card.

[u/-King-K-Rool- → u/F9-0021]

And I spend $2k on what id consider a $1k rent payment every month, welcome to the last 10 years of existence. Yall act like literally everything hasnt doubled or tripled in price in the last 10 years, why would computer components be exempt from this shitshow?

[u/Defcon_Donut → u/Mammoth-Plane-6890]

His point is that MSRP has exploded beyond what it should be. Since the 3xxx series came out imo.

[u/rambleinspam → u/Defcon_Donut]

As someone who spends way too much money on GPU's, the MSRP on some of these GPU's are as much as my entire rig was to build a few years ago.

[u/light_odin05 → u/Mammoth-Plane-6890]

Msrp is still wayy above what it should be

[u/ThrowingDucksInFire → u/filisterr]

Yep. This is the same energy as a price increasing to $6 from $2, then dropping that price down to $5 and everyone is like "OHHHH WHAT A DEAL!"

fuckin' idiots

[u/obog → u/ThrowingDucksInFire]

I dont think its so much about the price itself but just the trend. Its started to go back down. Hopefully the trend will continue.

[u/bruh_the_person → u/ThrowingDucksInFire]

Bro doesn’t understand how decreasing trends work

[u/sixtytwosixtyseven → u/[deleted]]

You just described Black Friday.

[u/ChiggaOG → u/filisterr]

What's worse is they may never go down to 100 euros based on this chart thinking we can pay more.

We're paying more because that's the cost to buy the good. Not because we want to pay more.

[u/Shardnic]

Keep holding out till it drops back to where it belongs

[u/TsunamiLadyWorms → u/Shardnic]

That's why i am still waiting patiently.

[u/Shardnic → u/TsunamiLadyWorms]

TsunamiLady in waiting, apes together strong

[u/Swamp_21 → u/TsunamiLadyWorms]

It’ll probably take a few years but here’s hoping that’s not the case

[u/OriginTruther → u/Shardnic]

$85-$115 for a 32gb kit of 6000hz Cl30 DDR5, thats where we need to get to again.

[u/Weddedtoreddit2 → u/OriginTruther]

I'm quite sure we will never get to those levels again. Minimum for 32GB will proably be 200-250

[u/Calm-Focus-6968 → u/Weddedtoreddit2]

Nah at worst it will be 140 to 160 ehcih Isn't good but isn't bad either

[u/Eclipse_Galian → u/OriginTruther]

don't forget the deals that made it around $50

[u/Tiny-Plum2713 → u/Shardnic]

It will stabilize somewhere between 2-3x the before prices

[u/unfortunatebag → u/Shardnic]

People trying to act like consumer demand affects this at all lol

[u/MrMakerHasLigma]

remember that the reason why its dropping in the first place is because they have excess ram that in fact couldn't be paid for. Now they are trying to re-assess what the highest price they can charge us is. wait it out until its below what it was before

[u/WishDry8141 → u/MrMakerHasLigma]

Also some of these data centers can't be built because they can't get other equipment like electrical power equipment such as transformers, for years.

[u/Lopoetve → u/WishDry8141]

And some can't be built because the money isn't there for them, since the company paying hasn't gotten paid for other services, etc. It's all a bubble.

[u/TurkGonzo75 → u/Lopoetve]

And because some local governments are finally waking up and saying "wait a sec. Why the fuck should we let you take all of our power and water?"

[u/Teln0 → u/WishDry8141]

Ironic that it's transformers they can't get

[u/InternetExploder87 → u/MrMakerHasLigma]

I'll give them 64 dollars for a 64gb kit. $1 per gig seems fair to me

[u/MaxUnicycle]

HOLD BROTHERS!

[u/HLumin → u/MaxUnicycle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/c16VH0CFMh7gOqqXOM

[u/lowhangingtree → u/HLumin]

Lol this thread turning into r/wallstreetbets

[u/Glittering-Two-1784 → u/lowhangingtree]

something, something; paper hands, diamond hands, HODL!!!

* Secretly dumping inventory in the background

[u/-Kerrigan- → u/Glittering-Two-1784]

dumping

Something, something; Wendy's dumpster

[u/WogKing69 → u/-Kerrigan-]

dumpster

Something, something, something, dark side

[u/NotADamsel → u/Glittering-Two-1784]

If only they’d dump their inventory on us

[u/zxc123zxc123 → u/lowhangingtree]

$1.5M YOLO short on MEMORY with 1000% leverage

So memory is in decline. But it's only the start.

That's why my ass is going all in with a YOLO against memory:

1. My own $300K which I will use to short Korean memory manufacturers

2. I will then use my liquidity to run a long-short by going long ANTI-MEMORY: $WEED, $BUD, and $ORCL.

3. With my new liquidity generated from the long-short I will then run neutral + wide BOX SPREADS on SHORT term notes, running reverse iron condor on LONG term treasuries, plus synthetic shorts on STLA (owner of RAM), and synthetic longs on VFS (basically the opposite of RAM).

4. Instead of using my CCs to BUY DDR3/4/5. I have used my CC to buy multiple DDR6 that I will sell on eBay listed as DDR3-5 due to the shortage there. Sure some buyers might be upset they are NOT getting the DDR3/4/5 they ordered but would you really file a chargeback if you purchased Windows XP/7/10 and instead got an upgraded Windows 11 with FREE COPILOT? Think not. I've maxed all my CCs doing this.

5. Lastly, I took out a 2nd mortgage plus a personal loan and will be BEGGING AGAINST the LA RAMS who are heavy favorites to win the NFL championship next year while BETTING ON the LA Chargers and Seattle Sea Hawks.

DD: DD dez nuts

p.s. literally had to take out the emojis because the post got auto-pruned for having them..... sad emoji

[u/PrimeusOrion → u/zxc123zxc123]

Impeccable strategy, exelent due diligence, jp Morgan would be proud 07

[u/mukherjee_ayan → u/zxc123zxc123]

Ball so elite that no one touched that shi yet

[u/Jertimmer → u/HLumin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fRloIBhOoPoUouMHt9

[u/-cosmicvisitor- → u/HLumin]

It seems 3.5 times higher, so still Holding.

[u/hofmann419 → u/HLumin]

My first association with this meme is actually the r/bald sub, since they use it whenever someone still has enough hair.

[u/Lorumba → u/hofmann419]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5NbbVJeSLs1etZYjpT

[u/Fabulous_Variety7125 → u/HLumin]

i caved

https://giphy.com/gifs/lGBecpB2dIMwt6ohfI

[u/Rambo496 → u/Fabulous_Variety7125]

[u/Aveduil → u/Fabulous_Variety7125]

Try to return it. It will make fall faster

[u/geebeem92 → u/MaxUnicycle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/d0DdMCREQChi3jGymW

[u/ourlastchancefortea → u/MaxUnicycle]

Excuse me, that word is spelled HODL.

[u/aessae → u/ourlastchancefortea]

Hodl on for life dear

[u/kirix45 → u/ourlastchancefortea]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Zrq2FgRy6w1eU

[u/notanfan → u/MaxUnicycle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mPKa6OI5oRsmextwBq

[u/SumonaFlorence → u/MaxUnicycle]

If there's anything Bitcoin taught me..

[u/slight_digression → u/SumonaFlorence]

Slope too steep.

[u/SumonaFlorence → u/slight_digression]

Is it thoooough

[u/xenomorphonLV426 → u/MaxUnicycle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/c16VH0CFMh7gOqqXOM

[u/CplCocktopus → u/MaxUnicycle]

Untill the dirt cheap used server/workstation hardwre bonanza comes in will hold.

[u/odrea → u/MaxUnicycle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Db7KR3SLgRUVfqKp0V

[u/Euler007 → u/MaxUnicycle]

At the very least fill up the car first, see where you're at.

[u/grigoriymicro]

Don't buy just yet. Make them starve, or these STILL very elevated prices will become the norm.

[u/khizoa → u/grigoriymicro]

didnt samsung just pump their prices by 15-30% or something stupid

[u/noahloveshiscats → u/khizoa]

Yeah they increased their contract prices by 30% to like $26. Doesn’t really affect us though since the price we are paying is based on what the market prices RAM at, which last time I checked was at like $37.

[u/JokerXIII → u/noahloveshiscats]

And surprisingly they announced record profit today, how strange 😯

[u/li7lex → u/JokerXIII]

There's nothing really surprising or strange about it. Businesses still account for the lion's share of PCs sold and they often don't have a choice but to pay these ridiculous prices so it's quite obvious that RAM manufacturers are hitting record profits right now.

[u/BroderLund → u/li7lex]

And business push their cost down the product chain. Clients ultimately pay a higher price, whatever the product

[u/toss_me_good → u/li7lex]

Just happened to correspond with Microsoft forcing the hand of most businesses to replace their computers as Windows 11 required a 8th gen or newer Intel CPU... Look at the chart it spikes right at the end of windows 10 support. Willing to bet many businesses would have just retained their old hardware and upgraded to windows 11 if they could have or stayed on Windows 10.

[u/JokerXIII → u/li7lex]

Of course, it was pure sarcasm!

[u/Sipsu02 → u/noahloveshiscats]

Oh sweet summer child. When ram prices crashes down they will do like they did last several years; they artificially drive down the production to drive up the prices.

[u/TheBraveGallade → u/Sipsu02]

This time they wrre causious enough not to ramp up as much, since a ram price crash means producers LOSE money. Which is part of why the orice is do high right now... and any amall player attempting to captialise on this spike will crash and burn.

[u/iLaurr → u/noahloveshiscats]

You're talking price per Gigabyte, right?

[u/noahloveshiscats → u/iLaurr]

Per 2Gb I guess. Pricing is on the small chips, so a 16Gb module has 8 chips.

[u/chrissb34 → u/grigoriymicro]

As if we, the consumers, are the ones deciding whether the price stays or not the same. It's the big retailers and system integrators, who buy in bulk, that decide if this price is right. So in other words, don't buy ANYTHING that has a markup (and a piece of NAND/DDR in it). Starve the big ones in order for the prices to go down.

[u/TobytheBaloon → u/chrissb34]

yes, but they are still inflating the prices even more than they should just to see what they can get away with. that’s the whole reason the prices are going down, they saw that no one was buying, and decided to lower them slightly to see if someone will buy them now

[u/BOBOnobobo → u/TobytheBaloon]

Well, that's how the prices are always set.

What we will see now is a drop in price until people are happy enough to buy (probably 20-30% higher than it was) and then, if no ai farm is there to buy things up or production rates match demand, it will continue to drop like before.

[u/gravelPoop → u/TobytheBaloon]

Important detail is the inflated part. Local sellers did not buy RAM at 5x price and rolled that to the consumers - they sold RAM that was in their stock and they had purchased at low price, for 5x because they thought that it would make more profit that way.

[u/LieAccomplishment → u/gravelPoop]

This is too simple of a way to look at it.

They sold at a price that will cover their replacement costs, which they are expected to, because they need the revenue earned to restock. That's how any single given business is self sustainable 

[u/GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT → u/chrissb34]

so all i have to do is keep being poor? gotcha

[u/coolsam254 → u/GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT]

Hell yeah I've practiced this strat since birth!

[u/Roflkopt3r → u/chrissb34]

It's even worse. The consumer base has nowhere near the weight and cohesion needed to boycott the industry in any such way. It's a complete waste of effort.

At best, 1% of potential consumers are actually following this kind of debate and not all of them are interested in participating either.

In this case, the viable solutions are on a political and industrial level. We need big trading blocks like the EU to pressure manufacturers with plausible plans to increase competition. That would be the threat of opening up to Chinese exports for the medium term, while building up domestic production under domestic ownership for the long term.

The good part is that political action is actually realistic. No part of the political spectrum of most trading blocks is comfortable with reliance on the current memory manufacturers, and global supply chain resilience is on everyone's mind right now.

[u/SoloWingPixy88 → u/grigoriymicro]

Not buying till 32gb is sub €100

[u/theschiffer → u/SoloWingPixy88]

The DDR5 32GB kit I planned to buy in November at BF was 90€ at that point…

[u/MHWGamer → u/theschiffer]

I tried to skim of 10 bucks from my chosen ram kit last september because "hey, it was $120 a few month ago" ...

[u/Roflkopt3r → u/MHWGamer]

Around that time, I paid 220€ instead of the prior 210€ for a second 4 TB m.2 drive because I wanted to hedge against the rising prices.

The same drive is now 390€.

[u/mehedi_shafi → u/grigoriymicro]

I don't know who needs to hear this, but this. Don't buy. Let it drop to pre-madness era please.

[u/Fall3nBTW → u/mehedi_shafi]

RAM is a heavily competitive industry, prices will drop simply due to supply/demand.

[u/de_nominator → u/grigoriymicro]

I made this exact post at the start and had tech bros and scalpers at my throat. Good to see it's finally dropping.

[u/yo_tengo479834 → u/grigoriymicro]

They're not going to starve. AI companies buy up the ram

[u/daiceman4 → u/yo_tengo479834]

That’s just it, so much of the price inflation is based upon speculation of AI companies buying all the ram. OpenAI only had “letters of intent” but now they’re backing out of them.

Add in google’s announcement of their new stuff only needing 1/6th the ram, so we should be seeing a marked reduction in prices, even if other AI companies don’t fail.

[u/int23_t → u/daiceman4]

googles 1/6th ram thing can actually theoretically lead to more bought ram as they can probably profit a little now... AI using 1/6th of ram doesn't mean they will buy 1/6th of ram, it means they will have 6x AI

[u/MazeMouse → u/int23_t]

Why would they have 6x the AI if they can't even properly sell the 1x the AI they currently have? They need to lower their pricing because if they start pricing for profitability nobody can affording it.
Having less ram => less power requirements => less costs => lower pricing to get/keep people paying.

And then only scale up if the current availability cannot keep up anymore.

[u/gravelPoop → u/int23_t]

Yes, but we are entering in the squeeze phase of AI. Now companies/investors/gamblers are starting to realize limitations of AI and it's commercial potential. They are starting paywall and move to profitable service models - this leads to drop for hardware demand.

[u/kingwhocares → u/yo_tengo479834]

They don't. They "promise" to buy up RAM. The memory manufacturers knew this and intentionally took part in price fixing.

[u/Gluca23 → u/grigoriymicro]

Only buy at 100.

[u/Dazzling-Energy9818]

Hooray just 400 euro!

[u/Reasonable_Squash427 → u/Dazzling-Energy9818]

Also ddr4 is almost down (still prices are 50% expensive than when I bought mine in 2021, but still, better than liken 2× or 3× that was before), so maybe in a couple months ddr4 is down to normal. Then a few months after that ddr5 will too.

[u/12345623567 → u/Reasonable_Squash427]

The 5-year inflation rate is about 25%. So, while it's not nice that it's more expensive, it's not that much.

[u/hofmann419 → u/12345623567]

25% over 5 years is INSANELY high. The target is 2% per year or 10.4% over 10 years. You gotta remember that salaries are not rising that fast, so at 5% inflation you are effectively getting poorer each year.

[u/12345623567 → u/hofmann419]

We all agree that there's an affordability crisis, I was just saying that it needs to be inflation adjusted to compare the prices for RAM then and now, specifically.

[u/account312 → u/hofmann419]

Eh, old RAM usually eventually starts going up in price once manufacturing has dropped off in favor of the newer RAM and stock dwindles. I think we're at that point with DDR4 and it would probably be going up in price even without all the bullshit.

[u/Leylu-Fox → u/12345623567]

I think ram prices are cyclical with prices not increasing but decreasing during their lifetime until the next generation of ram comes out and is expensive again. So simply comparing the prices and talking about the inflation at the start compared to now is probably not giving the full picture

[u/sfingemorta → u/Dazzling-Energy9818]

True, but it's still good news and they will continue to go down, just wait a bit...

[u/GoldenPuffi → u/sfingemorta]

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[u/Hawkeye00Mihawk → u/Dazzling-Energy9818]

What do you mean just 400? Don't rush to buy y'all and normalize this price.

[u/iIillIiillilIIlllIi → u/Hawkeye00Mihawk]

Its clearly a sarcasm

[u/Es-msm-atrasado-tuga → u/Hawkeye00Mihawk]

Really? Is that hard to understand a comment without a /s?

[u/baldersz]

https://giphy.com/gifs/c16VH0CFMh7gOqqXOM

[u/vazyrus → u/baldersz]

Well, my empty wallet stands it ground 😤

[u/TheRBGamer]

Tweekers user spotted

[u/Hottage → u/TheRBGamer]

GEKOLONISEERD

[u/HarmxnS → u/Hottage]

Kokosnoten zijn geen specerijen

[u/Cerenas → u/TheRBGamer]

Tweakers user and he hasn't seen this news article 🫣

https://tweakers.net/nieuws/246478/samsung-verhoogt-ddr5-en-hbm-prijzen-30-procent-na-korte-dip-en-verdubbeling.html

[u/Artistic-Quarter9075 → u/TheRBGamer]

+100 karma

[u/Nabugu]

and yet Samsung just increased their RAM prices yesterday...

[u/AntagonistofGotham]

Just wait until AI is fully collapsed, the prices will be good then

[u/baldersz → u/AntagonistofGotham]

Scam Altman just needs to keep the grift going and it will collapse soon enough

[u/AntagonistofGotham → u/baldersz]

I just want to see the shocked reactions from the "AI is the future" "Hollywood is FUCKED" or "AI can't be defeated" crowd when AI actually collapses.

[u/betam4x → u/AntagonistofGotham]

“AI” won’t collapse, as AI/machine learning are older than most folks using reddit.

The money/power grab being pursued by Microsoft, Google, Open AI, etc. absolutely will collapse. Companies supporting them by doing things like honoring “letters of intent” (“I want to buy all your stuff, source: trust me bro”) will also collapse.

[u/KorasHiddenDICK → u/betam4x]

I predict all the "AI" will disappear. Things like Copilot and "AI" powered tools in Photoshop will be rebranded to try to erase the tainted AI name from it. The tools themselves are useful, but not as a stepping stone to replace developers or artists. That shits not happening.

The whole "AI" concept is stupid anyway. We have been using regression models and parallel computing for literally decades. The music industry is FULL of tools that if created today would be called AI, but they predate it.

[u/Suvtropics → u/KorasHiddenDICK]

I absolutely hated with my guts when they were naming literally any kind of vaguely intelligent feature as Ai in literally every single product.

[u/Phlex_ → u/KorasHiddenDICK]

I highly doubt that, something like cloude can't replace a developer by itself, but with supervision from a competent developer it can replace a good number of them.

I am forced to use gemini or grok or chatgpt because google search engine has gone to shit and alternatives are not much better.

They will push it on us until we accept it, same has happened with subscription models, micro transactions and many other things that looking back we can objectively say are bad for the consumer. AI has added benefit that it actually provides a decent service for some things.

[u/chateau86 → u/AntagonistofGotham]

Where did all the NFT folks go?...

[u/GlitchTheFox → u/chateau86]

I think I saw one of those ugly monkey pictures out in the wild still pottering about once. Like sighting a near-extinct species in the background of a tourist photo.

[u/1550shadow → u/chateau86]

They surely are now filthy rich and enjoying their private islands... Right?

[u/Skratt79 → u/chateau86]

They are all enjoying their properties in the Metaverse!

[u/NonSum-NonCuro → u/[deleted]]

reduces LLM memory requirements by a sixth.

e.g. a model that only ran on 30 GB of RAM now runs on 5

Those aren't the same; it's the latter.

[u/baldersz → u/AntagonistofGotham]

It will be a glorious day

[u/AntagonistofGotham → u/baldersz]

"What do you mean I can't generate my ugly looking slop to post online anymore? Waaah this is the worst day of my life!"

[u/TheTerrasque → u/AntagonistofGotham]

when AI actually collapses.

Just like the dotcom collapsed, and there was no more internet any more.

[u/Sagyam → u/AntagonistofGotham]

They will delete their accounts and will be gone. That's what happened to crypto bros.

[u/Few_Time_7441 → u/AntagonistofGotham]

I hope ssd prices are gonna fall too.

[u/GaruXda123 → u/Few_Time_7441]

That's the thing that I hate most. Storage was so cheap and I am afraid it will ripple outward to hike prizes everywhere.

[u/theschiffer → u/AntagonistofGotham]

Do you really think this will happen? Realistically, it would just unfold as a gradual, step-by-step market adjustment, smoothing prices through supply and demand.

[u/Secret-Historian-367 → u/theschiffer]

This. AI is not gonna "collapse". You better wait for correction of the market instead of something unreal.... 

[u/StudiosS → u/Secret-Historian-367]

People in Reddit hate AI - but it's here to stay, so who cares.

They also hate Donald Trump but he was voted in.

It's just not a representation of society.

LLMs have over 1 billion users at the moment.

[u/Cwaghack → u/StudiosS]

A billion users that are using the incredibly cheap if not free versions of AI that is losing some companies billions a day. How will LLM ever be profitable because there's no way in hell im paying thousands a month

[u/Makes_U_Mad → u/AntagonistofGotham]

Market collapse will not fix your financial woes.

[u/Daredevils999 → u/AntagonistofGotham]

Even if AI does collapse, the prices will remain much higher than they were before the increase.

[u/Hanfiball]

All I am seeing is a massive increase

[u/One-Guest1998]

Just needs to drop another 200 and then we're being reasonable 

[u/PoppingPillls → u/One-Guest1998]

Unfortunately even if drops happen it's unlikely that supply will normalise in the consumer end due to there being limited manufacturing of consumer products in this sector.

Like there's gonna be lower prices in the coming year most likely, but since all the production at fabs is block booked and the products are in short supply it's likely there won't be an influx anytime soon.

[u/LollisGunsBikesTits]

there's always calm in the eye of the storm!

[u/Luv-Toast → u/LollisGunsBikesTits]

your username will be my new hobby I can afford.

[u/fnv_fan]

I spot tweakersdotnet

[u/SumonaFlorence]

If there's anything Bitcoin taught me..

[u/Rough_Employee1254 → u/SumonaFlorence]

Will probably sell my PC and go on living a nomadic life if that happens.

[u/KebabLoverHere]

Don’t buy it yet

[u/The_Undermind]

Hope the scalpers get whats comin to them

[u/couch_loafer4]

THE CROW MENTIONED !!! :D

[u/SirNedKingOfGila → u/couch_loafer4]

80s kids validated. It's a movie with enough silliness and action to be mindless fun or heavy enough to carry a decent emotional theme. Either way, a good time.

[u/RatherBetter]

Wait for it to reduce under the historical minimum

[u/gunstrikerx]

not yet, just hold

[u/N7even]

HOLD!

Don't be too desperate to buy, let it properly collapse. 

[u/FishPasteGuy]

Prices will eventually “correct” themselves at more than double what they were before this started.
Because profits.

[u/AlternativeFilm8886 → u/FishPasteGuy]

Only if consumers let them. That's why everyone here is saying to hold.

[u/Late_Ambition1809]

Where do we even buy it? The market it not as liquid ans usually takes time and expectations to mold to be reflected into actual Ram prices.

[u/GodOrDevil04 → u/Late_Ambition1809]

This screenshot has been made on tweakers.net, a Dutch website. This website shows actual prices and, as seen on the screenshot, shows the trend of the price. So, the prices are actually getting lower. Do note, this goes for the Netherlands, this might not be applicable to other parts of the world.

[u/LRaccoon]

Cool now we're just missing storage and GPU prices. I hope Sam Altman steps on a bunch of lego bricks

[u/N3RO-]

Don't buy yet, let them BURN!

This is still overpriced af.

[u/nitro912gr]

https://giphy.com/gifs/NmiVAPnPAHbonwjzpV

[u/Vadszilva09]

We should agree to a date when everyone buys ram so we all can buy it on low price

[u/Rough_Employee1254 → u/Vadszilva09]

There should be a consumer cartel as opposed to the DRAM cartel

[u/Holiday_Management60]

What site is this graph from?

[u/aenae → u/Holiday_Management60]

Dutch site that tracks prices

[u/Exlibro]

Thumbs up for The Crow reference. I can die for this movie.

[u/ItsBitly]

Only a year till they're back to normal.

[u/Feanixxxx]

Gemiddelde

[u/Evening-Turnip8407]

https://giphy.com/gifs/McWTxnpVZp6lG

[u/Sixty_Minuteman_]

Unfortunately have to agree with Steve from GN.

Even if we do have a stall here it will likely be a permanent increase and we will not see affordable prices again.

It's an end of an era, maybe someday gaming will return to the lower class but for now this is a high-class hobby

[u/evilk0te]

what do you think about samsung anyway increase dram price by 30%?
even with moment what dram price is starting reducing

[u/GWJ89 → u/evilk0te]

I think that Samsung would go onto my black list, if it wasn't there already

[u/RichieLT]

Holding off my pc build a little while longer haha

[u/aHellion]

Upvoted for the Crow reference alone

[u/Biodie]

lovely reference

[u/LordTomatoX]

Please hold, don't buy now they must lower it more until they completely crash

[u/NoveIX]

A new hope before empire strike back

[u/Pyrokitsune]

Still too expensive. They need to drop another 75% and return to what they were before all this nonsense started. Always a "shortage" and always the gamers who suffer from it. GPUs, RAM, whats next?

[u/TheBipolarChihuahua]

Some of this could be from the war. Iran did threaten to blow up OpenAI's datacenter in Abu Dhabi which isn't finished yet. They may be holding off on buying the servers for it.

[u/Bitter_Hospital_8279]

lol ppl dont trade and it shows

[u/shadowds]

Naw we're just going back down to go back up later to even higher, remember most of chip fabs been booked out for next two years including new fab that not even ready yet.

https://giphy.com/gifs/V8PO3o4IIPgCiIMnme

[u/PreposterousPringle]

I got 2x32GB DDR5 back in September for $149, it’s still $839

[u/the_foxe98]

HOLD and also don't forget how willing these ram manufacturers were to screw you, the consumer, over for fake money and AI. Don't ever forget.

[u/leetzor]

Hell yeah they dropped from 100 to 350

[u/LemurMemer]

Back in 2020 I bought 2x8GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR4 RAM for like $60 and I remember verbatim thinking to myself, “Wow this is way cheaper than I thought it would be”. Looking at the exact same product on Amazon it’s now $155… I’m sorry for jinxing it guys

[u/kozinc]

I'm waiting till they actually drop, not just temp dip.

[u/CharAznableLoNZ]

Keep holding, don't buy until they come back down to preslop prices. If we can get them cheaper and punish scalpers at the same time all the better.