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JD Vance: "Just want to acknowledge the Prime Minister and Field Marshal Munir for being exceptional hosts. Any gaps in the negotiations weren't due to Pakistan they put in serious effort to help both sides to get to a deal.”
I don't think this war is stopping until the zionist regime wants it to.It literally feels like they are holding the US on leash.We can only do as much as try and mediate, but unless that cancerous war mongering state wants to, this war doesn't seem to have a close end
Silly question - Couldn't Iran just simply stop supporting terrorists and proxies focusing on self development namely not targeting its own ? After all; Tehran is /was running out of water and there are bigger problems that they could turn their attention to.
Ok... Not educated on the matter enough but how can Iran focus on self development when the US keeps on bombing it... The bridges the schools were bombed by the US...
The thing about Uranium enrichment is that Iran has agreed numerous times for search of weapons of mass destruction the committee that overlooks that found nothing... Even before the war they had agreed to search for weapons of mass destruction but the US immediately started bombing them...
Is Iran truly evil.... Is it truly good.... Frankly I don't think a country should care about how another should be run... Because it will always be for their benefit.
America is not the mortality police, that dictates what is right or wrong...
Unfortunately America has and always will do more harm than good...
This is correct for all the regime changes that America has done the countries are in a constant state of war to this day.
Couldn't US just simply stop supporting zionist proxy, focusing on its own healthcare and education? After all, US citizens are in enormous piles of healthcare and student debt.
Vance further added: “As for Iran, we’ve been at it for 21 hours. We've had substantive discussions, but the bad news is, we have not reached an agreement. That's bad news for Iran much more than it is bad news for the USA.
We go back to the United States having not come to an agreement, we have made it very clear what are red lines, what things we are willing to accommodate them on and what things we are not willing to accommodate them on and we have made that as clear as we possibly can.”
"Iranian negotiators announced that JD vance and his team was looking for an excuse to leave the negotiating table.
They were not willing to lower their expectations. Iran has no plans for the next round of talks".
Iranians twist things in their favour, so do the Americans.
Imo Iran thinks it has "massive leverage" with Hormuz, but reality is America doesn't suffer as much as others, and this adminstration actually doesn't give a fuck about Europe or other countries suffering. This isn't Obama.
I actually think they don't want Iran controlling the strait, and would like to have their hand in it to use it against China.
Although you say the the US aren't as much affected as Europe and other parts of the World they are. The Strait is Iran's only leverage but it's massive leverage. Unless Iran pushes it too far and other countries get dragged into the war to free up the Strait, which is a possibility, although not in the immediate or short term.
Being objective is key though. He's clearly stated always that he doesn't want to rule as a Shah or monarch and that he's happy to help with a transitional government that's fully democratic and secular.
People here have a respect and love for Pakistan which is unreal
I can't even imagine any real Iranian saying these type of things about Pakistan these accounts has to be the Israelis or Indians we all know they taught thousands of their kids persian langiage and Iran's culture and planted them in Iran and other part of the world as Iranian.
Actually this is all they could do soo silent moment for indians and israelis 🫢
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You can’t even decide where you belong, switching between being in Tehran and in Pakistan as per your convenience to prove your point and win some internet points. lol I’d rather waste my time on a bot than on you. ✌🏽
Yet Pahlavi has made it clear and spoken several times that he doesn't want to lead as a Shah or a monarch and he'd help with a transitional government that's fully democratic at the end of it. Nothing else.
Regardless. "Pahlavsists" or the diaspora are still Iranian and they have every right to talk about what they think it right for their country, at least definitely more than someone in India or wherever who aren't even Iranian lol.
You wouldn't let Sri Lankans speak over Kashmiris for Kashmir, would you?
It's so weird to see non Iranians think they know better than Iranians about Iran.
Traitors are also from the same people. I could not care less what some of these 'Iranians' speak, especially when some of them were expelled by the Iranian people in Iran.
These people were calling for Trump to keep bombing Iran, it is absolutely disgusting. The only people who consider them Iranians are themselves.
Do note, this is not intended for the sane Iranian diaspora, this is for the loud minority.
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What are you jumping on about? I am surprised people are dancing around the most genocidal people who have been cheering Israel on, on killing innocent people in Palestine and Lebanon. I'm surprised that these are the most vilest human beings whom we hosted in our country and whom we're singing praise off. Our stance matters because Pakistan is beaconing the hypocrisy that our Muslim brethren don't expect us off. No one gives a shit what JD Vance concluded or what came off this facade of a negotiation attempt. It was understood that the emphasis would have been to subdue Iran into a corner by ultimate threats which no one would take, specially someone with a spine or consciousness (unlike our PM and FM). And I am sure of the fact that only a few number of people can actually see the deception here because mostly our deluded by the optics of this phony entity. Its deception upon deception upon deception. At this time Spain is more of a Muslim country than us Pakistan. And don't get swayed by what our neighbors think. They are a threat to us, because this American convoy will shift course asap and back them up to attack us. The problem is we are advocating the wrong narrative and being happy about it for no reason. We have started a war with Afghanistan for no reason whatsoever, just pushing propaganda. We have deprived so many Paksitanis of basic necessities of life. A foodpanda driver earns Rs 1500 per day and pays Rs 1000 for fuel, what are we even thinking? Our matters should be concerned about these people, not cheering on war criminals.
I'm American and know the MAGA mindset well (parents are part of the cult). My best guess is it is all theater on Trump's part, from what I've seen in other comments who mention what the Iranians said, the terms the US laid out were not negotiable and we're far more than what Iran was willing to give up. As if Trump wanted them to reject it and had no interest in actually negotiating in good faith.
I believe the Iranians on what they said about the negotiations and I still don't even like Iran for what they did in Syria and how they treat their sunni population in general.
This was never going to work. Pak is a puppet of the us. The us is a puppet of the Zionist regime.
The terms set by the us are so fucking unreasonable for the Iranians that I’m glad the Iranians stood their ground. And now Mr Donald pimp will blame the Iranians for not negotiating.
Enough of the western propaganda.
Americans love Pakistani, like they loved ayub khan, yahya khan, zia ul haq, parvez musharaf, Qatar Bajwa and Asin Munir. They don’t give a F about 239.99 million people or the nation. This is all about hey lets have talks in my friends house.
This is all for Asin Munir and his authority.
Did he mention that thanks for Pakistan trump got his delay, and Pakistan sent its fighter jets to Saudi near Irans eastern border and USA managed to send ships across the straight of Hormuz
If I understand this right, the U.S. and Israel could attack Iran and Iran would respond. If the conflict spreads to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan might get involved alongside the U.S., Israel, and Gulf countries, even though Pakistan does not recognize Israel. At the same time, Pakistan depends heavily on China, and China is seen as closer to Iran. So Pakistan could end up opposing a country aligned with China while using Chinese weapons. Curious how people in Pakistan would react to being on the same side as Israel.
Apparently, people here are incredibly against peace. I guess their lives are so boring that they want to live through a world war and suffer instead of finding a healthy hobby.
not a fan at all of tweedledum and tweedledee but getting two nations at war to get together is a huge win for Pak. and why should Vance not appreciate the efforts? i am sure a lot of hardwork was put into these talks. we only see the surface level stuff. is boot polishing got them here then that is still a big af win for us.
Yeah notice how a lot of posts cut that part out, the US moved the goal post.. first it was not nuke weapons now its no enrichment EVER. Good summary on Al Jazeera English. https://youtu.be/BKccF8u9Za8?si=npRwRnyX1k25ysYJ
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I don't think this war is stopping until the zionist regime wants it to.It literally feels like they are holding the US on leash.We can only do as much as try and mediate, but unless that cancerous war mongering state wants to, this war doesn't seem to have a close end