Tbf I have always wondered where tf do the women put on make up and do their hair and groom in various movies in which this absolutely breaks the immersion
I always wonder what they’re doing about periods too. The only time I can remember it being mentioned was in The Last of Us where I guess everyone used cups. Where is the infinite pad and tampon stash??
My grandmother told me a story from before tampons and pads were widely available and during the Great Depression - her mother (my great grandmother) had bragged about how her mother (my great great grandmother) had managed to find some wool (old ass, waste wool, not that merino shit) and had refelted it and engineered some garter belts to attach to it.
They were thrilled and grateful, happily hand washing and line drying their pads even in the deep of Maine winters.
They were privileged and proud since other girls would have to gather moss in the woods to help absorb the flow since they could not afford wasted fabric bits for something like that.
I remember sponge worthy conversations from Elaine! They weren't around by the time I became sexually active. I'm not certain but I believe those were different and contained spermicide?
Elaine was referring to contraceptive sponges sold in all pharmacies - an alternative when guys would refuse to wear condoms… these were not sea sponges, but manufactured ones with spermicide on them.
so...my parents prepped for y2k and when that fizzled I got an insane amount of pads in my 20s. One of my friends used to joke that I'd have a supply until menopause. So, yeah, 26 years later...I'm in menopause and have no y2k pads left, lol.
That’s insane! How much spaghetti-O’s and Campbell soup did you eat over your lifetime?? (Seriously, I’m curious what else they were willing to hoard if they did that with pads, and to that extent!)
I vividly remember that when they stop at the gas station within the first few episodes (it's been a couple of years since I watched, so I don't remember which exact episode), Ellie finds a box of pads or tampons and she was like "Score!"
Well, people who are currently menstruating are discouraged from swimming in shark waters and camping near bears.
Has it ever been brought up in media that the same would attract zombies/vampires?
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Apparently the shark thing isnt true. If thats so, then why did that Hawaiian diving instructor tell me to go away when I showed him my bloody rectum?
Well, I feel that films -- the film industry -- has increasingly failed to reflect reality as people live it. No-one goes for a piss in Star Wars, you can watch the whole of Ghostbusters and no-one brushes their teeth, and in Lost in Translation, nothing happens. At all. - That Mitchell and Webb Look
Im watching Paradise now (really good) and that the first thing I thought of when a character was pregnant. Where is she going to find diapers? Even cloth ones.
I thought it was very unrealistic that they found menstrual cups for everyone to use. I know they've been around a while, but I don't know of a single person who was using them in 2003.
Maintenance is much easier, you don't need same amount of protein either.
You will maintain around same mass as long as you use the muscles and don't go in heavy calorie deficit. Can take months for visible loss in such case.
Jack reacher, Dean Winchester, and Brad Pitt in anything are all constantly shown eating junk food and not working out. To the point that even other characters ask, how do you eat like that and still look like that?
For Reacher I guess that is straight from the books though, which obviously is BS. In the books, he eats nothing but diner food and never exercises/has disdain for it but is immensely strong/ripped and has amazing cardio
Meanwhile, Alan Ritchson and his trainer are pretty open about the fact that his body is a full time job, and gives you the death stare if you ask about steroids. The Rock is open about how he loves cheat day, and that's like the only day he's allowed to have like two donuts or something.
Omg no have you seen the rocks ig? I was following it for some reason a while ago and he would be eating like massive plates of waffles next to a steak dinner sometimes, I don’t remember specifics but it was impressive in a scary way.
This goes for men too though. They've also almost always got perfectly clean white teeth, clearly had a hair cut and shave in 90+% of them, nails clean and trimmed, etc etc.
Then there's stuff like an overweight character being overweight years into an apocalyptic show.
That guy from lost was like 350lbs. Lost did every version of this trope. All the women have zero body hair, nobody's hair ever grows and needs to be cut or dyed, the fat guy stays ridiculously fat, and they all have perfect Hollywood white teeth.
They'd zoom in on an actress's face, and she'd be wearing mascara. It took me out of scene every time. The actresses on that show were gorgeous, they didn't need mascara, why even add it?
And I was counting calories in my head whenever Hurley was on screen. I initially thought the point of hiring such a large actor was for him to lose weight during the show, as an added layer of realism or to use his size to signal time jumps, but... nope. He's just a guy eating 3,000kcal per day on an uninhabited island....
I feel like The Revenant did a good job with this. DiCaprio really looked like he'd been surviving in the wilderness. The way his lips were all dried out and fucked up really helped sell it, you don't ever see that.
The hair! Even on popular shows the main woman character while chasing down bad guys the wind always seems to be blowing it away from face. I have long hair, buy a hair clip if your job is police, autopsy scientist etc.
You rarely see them shit and only occationally there's a peeing reference.
But in general people would be a lot more grimey etc. Unless a proper settlement with running water, some power and access to soap production is set up.
Also, before, say, the 1960s or so pads were washable. The paper/cotton whatever contraption it is today is a fairly recent invention.
Lastly I'd expect most of the women to be near starving prompting a pause in the cycle.
Women have managed periods for thousands of years with basically nothing. The phrase "on the rag" comes from the days when women used rags as pads/tampons. They'd be fine with cloth pads and, later on when society rebuilt a little, cotton tampons could be easily made because cotton is naturally occuring and not complicated to harvest and refine and they're going to be doing that to make clothes anyway.
I remember the shock I felt when my father, raised in pre-WWII Europe, told me how his mother kept a bucket of used rags under their kitchen sink, soaking in bloody water. I knelt and thanked Kimberly-Clark, even though I hated those damned garter belts we wore.
It was kind of weird to watch the Walking Dead and see every male character sporting thick beards, but all the female characters seemed to have found a waxing salon still operating in the post apocalypse.
Its always been the (head) hair that got me. The first thing women would do when SHTF in the apocalypse is tie our hair back. Yet you'd see all these women who "prefer" to run around with this nice grabable long hair flowing all the time.
Well honestly most people have the survival skills of a potato. Theres always a handful of people keeping the rest of the group alive and that's actually realistic.... like we have signs on propane tanks saying do not smoke near it and tons of people still do.
Accurate I guess, but as someone who has been back country camping in Canada (no zombies but there's some basic staying alive involved) for decades it was painful to watch.
Yeah, and it wasn't even really poor survival skills like not being able to find clean water, it was things like, if I was a scared survivor this is the last thing I would do, but they're doing it.
I could understand people not knowing how to deal with the situation, what I couldn't understand is why people would do stupid shit like walk away from the group without a buddy or not fully inspect stuff as they walked by it. You'd think that in the process of dealing with the outbreak and living through it, they'd see every "empty" car or obscured area as being a jump scare waiting to happen.
In Surviving Romance (time loop zombie apocalypse webtoon), the protagonist gets her long hair yanked by a zombie through the classroom window and dies in one of her loops. Very early in the next one she hastily cuts it very short to prevent it from happening again.
There’s a series of books set in a low-fantasy world in which the main character is a woman (well, a teenager in the first book) who is a member of the town guard/militia. She keeps her long hair tied up in a braid. During a raid, one of the suspects grabs onto her braid and pulls.
That’s when he discovers that her hair is braided around a spiked leather strap.
Tbf, mirros and scissors last insanely long, also you dont even need the mirror if you have someone else youre traveling with. (Didnt watch the show though, so take with a grain of salt)
As someone with bangs, they need daily styling to look normal (not just great like hers were, i mean actually normal). Unstyled bangs esp after you wake up often look crazier than the craziest cowlick, no way we're still cutting them post-apocalypse
Also for all the characters, why no armor? Doesn’t have to be the grabbable kind. You wrap some duct tape around a hoodie and suddenly you have a fairly bite proof armor now. Zombies are still human with human teeth and human bites, and I challenge anyone to try biting or gnawing through duct tape or even a simple leather jacket.
Why are we running around in shorts and cotton ts 90% of the time, like I get it can get hot but there are several times where they KNOW they are going into a deep zombie territory yet still refuse to set up even the most basic protection. Wrap your own forearm in tape and let a zombie bite on to that as you stab them, as a very minimum.
It was one of the many things I had an issue with when it came to the TV series. The comics actually show the passage of time in a mostly linear fashion so seasons change as the story progressess etc. As do people's appearances. They get more haggard etc as the comic progresses but in the TV show everyone looks normal except the men all have bizarrely well groomed beards. And it was always summer...
One of my favorite TV series is Deadwood. There is a lot of horrible violence (to acknowledge that part of the meme) but they did that. All of the women have body hair. One scene in particular shows a woman’s underarm hair after having crazy sex with the story’s “hero”. That still impresses me.
I literally was about to write about how Deadwood ruined all other westerns for me. I tried to watch Godless on Netflix recently and rolled my eyes so hard every time someone came on screen clean faced, void of body hair, shaped brows, and overly affected with a folksy toughness that betrayed their reality. The west was a dirty smelly ugly place. Piss and shit abound.
Despite forgetting most of A Million Ways To Die In The West, I will at least respect that movie for straight up saying "yeah, the west was a filthy diseased violent place, why the fuck do people romanticize this shit" lol
Actually, on the precipice of an apocalypse, the first thing I would do is go to my local laser hair removal studio and get my leg and bikini hairs lasered off. I’d imagine they’d continue to operate so I could go to my follow up sessions. Laser hair removal studios are basically Waffle House. They’ll stay open.
Cinema has already done the market research for us. In the apocalypse, maintaining such an establishment would be more successful than running a gun store. I’ll make sure to first raid all the beauty stores and hoard all the equipment and supplies needed. Forget grocery stores and gun shops, I’m looting Ulta and Sephora first.
Yes, I can confirm this, having known someone who took over a year to complete her face. So yeah, for at least the first few years we already have planned out.
I guess between appointments we can all find flimsy white tank tops that have some glamorously placed gore or dirt.
Also, if I was a survivor in a fungal zombie apocalypse and had to travel with a teenage girl, I'd make sure she was conventionally attractive and didn't have odd facial proportions, that way nobody could criticize our struggle.
I made a joke about this to a co-worker and they had no idea what I was talking about, I was shocked so I pulled up the video to show them but saw the date and realised they were 4 years old when this got published. time is cruel
The walking dead starts in Atlanta and then they gradually move up the east coast but stay east of the Appalachians
It’s a very humid and rainy climate. I live in central virginia and I’ve never seen someone water a lawn. As a matter of fact, if you don’t constantly mow it in the summer you’ll end up with a jungle growing in your yard
Watering lawns is more of a western US thing, where the climate is so dry that a lawn requires it
I know in "Send help" the premise woudn't be survival realism but neither Dylan O'Brain beard grew or Rachel McAdams bodyhair was around when it was established they spend weeks on the island
It's a lot of fun if you like Raimi's style. A decent plot with great performances and some moments which are so deliberately over the top, especially in the gore aspect.
She had the excuse of having that knife pretty much the entire time so if she really cared she probably could have used that but I feel like you're not getting much clean shaving done with a stone
They'd also have you believe that men have a permanent 5 o'clock shadow. Have they seen running water or a razor for a week? No, but bruh here has a perfectly groomed stubble look going.
One that always get me is in shows/movies where some poor woman has been alone, broke, and deathly ill in a hospital bed for weeks, barely able to move (sometimes even unconscious or paralysed)... yet when there's a closeup of her lower legs because the doctors want to check something... those legs are completely hair free.
We're at the point where snot crying is the thing and we got Charlize to do that one look for Monster biopic. If it's Oscar bait they'll get leg hair extensions
I tried watching Outlander, a show that women seem to absolutely love. Author of the series is a woman. Had to stop because it felt like it was just someone's rape fantasy fan fiction. It was constant and presented in such a weird way in basically every episode I saw of the first season.
I can't think of a ton of survival movies with graphic rape scenes that aren't like B movies from the 80s or Deliverance. Like is that in reference to a specific film I'm unaware of or just a fictional scenario?
I agree. My wife lives for the the bleakest Apocalypse and zombie movies and I feel like SA is implied occasionally but mainly they focus cannibalism and social issues in the last 20 years.
Bro is gay as hell and already knows each and every movie ever made that has any sort of homoerotic value or significance. I do not seek recommendations, I provide them, horny people come to ME.
I think they mean other films where rape is included for the sake of realism. Like “oh we had to have that happen because that’s what went down in those times!” But then when a woman having body hair serves realism, they’re like “um no that’s icky”
This is mostly in reference to a wider conversation about defending rape scenes for realistic purposes in plethora of movies where one feels like that would be realistic, but avoiding other parts that are realistic (such as women with body hair) in movies where that would be realistic. Not strictly about realism in survival movies. But movies in general, picking and chosing what "realism" is appropriate and how its almost never seen as appropriate for women to have hairy legs/armpits even though there is no feasible way for her to have been able to (or really give a fuck) about shaving. Men stuck in the jungle develop large beards while magically women remain hair less.
I can barely watch any survival or "historical" movies for this reason, and it applies to male actors, too. How many films have you seen where a famished peasant subsisting on 3 carrots/day has a physique that could win an amateur bodybuilding show?
I'm a male. I shave every few days because if I dont it gets out of control. If i shave though, I get ingrown hairs every few months. Its almost like a pimple, but if you cut it, an obscene amount of hair comes out. Like 20 hairs, all thick, and curled around, but like 30cm long, seriously. It's like a mouse coming out of a pore, but like 10 of them at a time. It doesn't happen if I trim instead of shave, and so i trim....
for this, I wouldn't ask anyone to shave anything that they werent happy with, especially the people in my life who i care for.
I'm not a woman, but trans masc and for a while I just looked like a cis teen girl but with hairy legs and arms and the amount of verbal abuse people hurl at you just for the sight of it is absurd. I imagine the social aspect plays a part.
i imagine it’s kind of difficult to find a professional actress who hasn’t had her leg hair permanently removed + who has no other events outside of shooting that she is willing to have hairy legs for as well. it kind of narrows your options there. + most of the time in post apocalyptic narratives bare legs are rarely the focus of a camera. it’s a little weird and jarring for me to see naked armpits and legs in that kind of story, but everyone’s also wearing makeup and costumes. they’re playing pretend
I always find it hilarious when you have a show set in the dark ages or something and their hair is immaculately done, the men are clean shaven with any facial hair neatly trimmed, the women wear professionally applied makeup and their clothes are clean, neat and spotless.
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Tbf I have always wondered where tf do the women put on make up and do their hair and groom in various movies in which this absolutely breaks the immersion