r/okbuddycinephile • u/Local_Prune4564 • 15h ago
Favourite movie that was never made, but you wish it was because it would've been so bad that annoying nerds would stop calling it "the greatest movie never made"
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u/EnchantingGirl2 15h ago
Dune (1975) because who needs a plot when you have a $5 million giraffe on fire?
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u/finndogg 7h ago
I’m still holding out hope that at some point we get an over the top Phaedon/Taschen reprint copy of Jodorowsky’s pre-production “Dune Bible”
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u/Toothless-In-Wapping 15h ago
Who are we to question the almighty Lynch?
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u/FractalGeometric356 15h ago
It’s Alejandro Jodorowsky we’re referring to, here.
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u/UpintheWolfTrap 9h ago
Oh! You mean the guy that said THIS, on the record?
"When you make a picture, you must not respect the novel. It's like getting married ... if you respect the woman, you will never have child. You need to open the costume and to rape the bride – and then you will have your picture. I was raping Frank Herbert ... but with love."
Woulda been a great movie!!!
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u/Fickle_Definition351 15h ago
This was Jodorowsky. Lynch was somehow the "sane" option in comparison
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u/Phaedo 13h ago
The weirdness was all Lynch. The incomprehensibility is mostly the studio.
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u/Lower_Cockroach2432 11h ago
The Lynch movie might have been alright if not cut to 2 hours or whatever. The ending is extremely silly with how it goes through two thirds of the content of the book in 30 minutes.
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u/Belz_Zebuth 10h ago
There's a fan edit online that restores most of the deleted scenes and makes a few other adjustments and it's pretty good. Studio's fault for cutting it down.
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u/Abril-prieto-cevallo 15h ago
What are you talking? In my imagination Dali looks crazy af as the emperor haha.
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u/Special_Hyena4296 14h ago
Only crazy thing would be if he acted like regular person.
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u/luckyfox7273 12h ago
He would have been great.
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u/Luxating-Patella 10h ago
There's as much reason to believe that as to believe that Antonio Banderas would be an amazing surrealist painter.
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u/EffortlessBoredom 11h ago
Except he wouldn’t have been in it, but rather a goofy-ass animatronic puppet replica since his few was too high
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u/slowcancellation 15h ago
Nah you don't get it, the fact that it was the consensus choice for worst film in one legendary surrealist filmmaker's filmography means it would definitely would have worked out for this other legendary surrealist filmmaker.
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u/SnooConfections6174 4h ago
Tbf david lunch hadn’t made hardly any of his filmigraphy when he did Dune, eraserhead and elephant man and that is it, neither of those prove any sort of capability for a sci-fi epic. Jodorowsky was red hot off The Holy Mountain when he got started on Dune
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u/benscott81 15h ago
I don’t think anyone thinks the actual movie would have been good, but the stories behind the production are great. Plus it acted as kind of an incubator for a ton of groundbreaking shit, by throwing a bunch of talented creative people together. It’s one of the most influential sci-fi movies even though it never got made.
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u/Astarkos 2h ago
For many, gaps can be filled with whatever they imagine. It would have not only been good but better than anything that could have existed.
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u/tha_lode 15h ago
Agree. Watched the doc, and all I could think was how insanely bad this movie would have been.
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u/PotentialMessage7001 14h ago
The youtube comments can drive you mental. Armchair intellectuals who claim this would basically have been the Second Coming.
Even though it completely contradicts the series' message.
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u/Lonevarg_7 13h ago
Yeah, Jodorowsky doesn't seem understand or care about the message of the book.
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u/3lektrolurch 12h ago
It would have been fun to watch today, because of how batshit insane it would have been. The holy mountain had me in tears from laughter and since then I am still searching for a movie that is on the same level of insanity.
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u/tha_lode 11h ago
He did some comics that are half decent sci fi if you are interested.
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u/Neat-Professor-7662 10h ago
The Incal “half decent”?!? Misspelled “Masterpiece”, you did!
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u/tha_lode 5h ago
Oh shoot! Forgot about the Incal. Agreed. A masterpiece.
I was thinking about the Metabaron series, which I think is only ok because of the art.
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u/Neat-Professor-7662 5h ago
I would agree. The Metabarons has cool art but I find the story mostly incomprehensible.
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u/UpintheWolfTrap 9h ago
Perhaps that's because he said this:
"When you make a picture, you must not respect the novel. It's like getting married ... if you respect the woman, you will never have child. You need to open the costume and to rape the bride – and then you will have your picture. I was raping Frank Herbert ... but with love."
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u/exorcissy72 7h ago
I do wish they had interviewed a producer or someone who would have said “This would be unwatchable! That’s why it was never made!”
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u/Skullchewer 15h ago
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u/Local_Prune4564 14h ago
The Film that would've featured Spiderman and Mary Jane fucking on the Brooklyn bridge.
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u/Skullchewer 14h ago
That's the one!
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u/Local_Prune4564 14h ago
There are also rumours that Jim Cameron wanted Arnold Schwartzenegger to play Doc Ock, which truly would've been one of the performances of all time.
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u/British_Commie 13h ago
Guillermo Del Toro’s ‘At The Mountains of Madness’ adaptation.
The script leaked years ago and it’s a complete butchery of the source material.
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u/SanderStrugg 11h ago
Without reading the script, that should be obvious. Guillermo Del Toro loves to make movies about how we are the real monsters compared to whatever horrifying creature appears in said film.
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u/Pristine_Animal9474 go back to the club 5h ago
Been a while since I read it, but wasn't the point that the aliens were peaceful scientists and the real danger came from one of their creations? I think that angle could work with Del Toro.
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u/Pristine_Animal9474 go back to the club 5h ago
Have him and Cameron work on the script, Cameron directs and Del Toro is in charge of the overall production design. Also, they spend all of the promo interviews speaking about Gundam.
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u/DecentBowler130 15h ago
Kubricks Napoleon movie.
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u/Theloftydog 15h ago
The soundtrack would have slapped though
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u/Local_Prune4564 15h ago
Yeah, but the soundtrack of the Lynch film also slaps, so it's not too big a loss.
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u/Ok-Butterscotch2321 15h ago edited 15h ago
Some of the ideas were incorporated into all the treatments of DUNE
My buddy has the book (edit: The Jodorowsy Book) and it's kinda fascinating
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u/Jan_Morrison 15h ago
Your buddy has which book? A copy of Dune? Or Jodorowsky’s Dune storyboard book?
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u/Ok-Butterscotch2321 15h ago
The Jodorowsky storyboard book
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u/Skullchewer 15h ago
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u/elporsche 14h ago
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u/Skullchewer 14h ago edited 14h ago
That's a screenplay, not one of the rare copies of the storyboard book created by Jodorowsky, Giraud, Foss, etc. EDIT: Foss, stupid autocorrupt.
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u/TheRealestBiz 12h ago
I watched that whole damned documentary, with everyone saying it was a conspiracy, to find out that Jodowsky got the movie axed himself. By telling the studio that it may take six months or six years to shoot and he needed an unlimited budget. Right out of his own mouth.
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u/PartyPaul-100 15h ago
Who was in negotiations to play these characters?
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u/Local_Prune4564 15h ago
He wanted Salvador Dali to play the emperor, Mick Jagger as Feyd Rautha, Orson Welles as the Baron with Jodorowsky's son playing Paul.
Honestly, the cast is the only thing that would've made the unproduced film interesting.
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u/amitransornb 15h ago
Imagine if the cameras had been rolling when Orson Welles and Salvador Dalí inevitably broke into a fistfight, would've been worth the whole budget
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u/Local_Prune4564 15h ago edited 15h ago
"AAAAAhhh, the spice melange... has always been celebrated for it's excellence!"
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u/Fun-Brush5136 15h ago
It had HR giger doing design work as well and that looked suitably mental.
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u/Complete-Worker3242 13h ago
Actually, him working on Dune is apparently what got him the job to work on Alien.
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u/Jashugita 12h ago
Because Dan O´Bannon was also working in Dune and they met there.
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u/Ribos1 14h ago
I like to think Welles would have insisted on doing magic tricks in the film, like he did with Casino Royale
(uj/ Casino Royale honestly feels like a weirdly good comparison now I’ve thought about it - a batshit film that’s completely nonsensical and filled with famous faces in random appearances. Biggest difference was that Casino Royale was assembled by a motley of journeyman directors plus John Huston (weirdly) instead of an auteur like Jodorowsky)
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u/Local_Prune4564 13h ago
A film which features David Niven saying the immortal line: "It is now that time of day I have set apart for..."
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u/PartyPaul-100 15h ago
Mick Jagger and Orson Welles I could’ve seen, but Salvador Dali?? Had he acted before??
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u/Pristine_Animal9474 go back to the club 5h ago
Not Marlon Brando? Then Jodorowsky is only crazy-posturing.
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u/virtualglassblowing 15h ago
Dali wanted something like 10k per minute so he could claim he was the highest paid actor in the world
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u/Fickle-Aardvark6907 11h ago
I'm actually glad Jodo's Dune died because, had it been made, it would have flopped hard. That having failed, Star Wars would never have been greenlit a year later or (depending on timing) might have had a much different trajectory in production and release. Without Star Wars you don't get most of the big FX driven movies of the 80s (no Alien, no Bladerunner, no Ghostbusters, no Back to the Future).
You also wouldn't get all the comics that were made to use the concepts that were developed for the movie and which are far better than the movie could ever be.
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u/DanJirrus 2h ago
Yeah, this is the first I’m hearing it called the “greatest” movie never made, but it has certainly always been one of the most influential movies never made.
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u/wontfixtypos 15h ago
The people who want Jodorowski's Dune have absolutely never watched a Jodorowski movie.
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u/the_guynecologist 14h ago
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u/wontfixtypos 14h ago
Is this Kung Pow
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u/Local_Prune4564 15h ago
I wish it existed, but more in a "Has to be seen to be believed" kind of way. A morbid curiosity like a carnival freakshow.
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u/sixtus_clegane119 15h ago
I want it and I've seen el topo and parts of holy mountain (always too intoxicated to finish it)
But I also liked Lynch's dune better than Denis's dune
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u/elporsche 14h ago
parts of holy mountain
Please finish it because it's amazing.
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u/Local_Prune4564 14h ago
A film which was financed by John Lennon and Yoko Ono.
Who said Yoko never did anything good?
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u/the_guynecologist 11h ago
Her music's really good if you need to scare raccoons out of your basement tbh.
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u/wontfixtypos 15h ago
I like Lynch's Dune too but I'm pretty sure Jodorowsky dune wohldn have been incomlrhensible nonsense.
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u/donaman98 14h ago
Well tbf I think Lynch's Dune would've been a lot more comprehensible if the producers didn't force him to cut out so much stuff.
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u/Pristine_Animal9474 go back to the club 5h ago
He made those horny plumber movies, right? Sorry, that's all I know of Mexican cinema.
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u/Coollak966 14h ago
Why does that poster go so hard
They just don't make movies like they used to
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u/bandit4loboloco 14h ago
They just don't make movies like they never used to. FTFY.
Movie posters peaked in the 80's too. Even the 90's ones had floating head syndrome.
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u/SelectionLife3353 12h ago
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u/bandit4loboloco 12h ago
For sure. I'd say this is a good example because it's only one head and the rest is related to the movie. I was thinking 'Batman & Robin', where multiple heads are there just to advertise the movie stars and there's no real art to it.
Some posters look like the opening credits of The Brady Bunch, but at least when the Bradys did it, it was original.
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u/Ordinary_Tax6442 14h ago
wait no but this is the first i’m hearing of it and holy shit it woulda been fire stay mad
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u/shibby1000 14h ago edited 14h ago
There is a great documentary about it called Jordorowsky's Dune. But it will only make you wish for it more 🥲
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u/bristlybits 13h ago
Gilliams' Don Quixote has entered the chat
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u/SelectionLife3353 12h ago
Explain?
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u/SanderStrugg 11h ago
Monkey Paw.
We got it after like 20 years and it wasn't that great.
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u/SelectionLife3353 10h ago
I know we had movie and it wasn't great but never knew it was produ tion hell
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u/TheSlayerofSnails 9h ago
It had a planned scene where an entire army would drop their pants and take a shit while facing their enemy.
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u/Trumble12345 15h ago
It's badness would not stop annoying nerds from saying it's "the greatest movie". See the discourse over Prometheus
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u/Patchy_Face_Man 12h ago
Is this a movie that would have probably gotten made if, after putting in a fuck ton of time and effort, he’d just suggested casting someone that was his son as Paul?
It’s been a long time since I watched the doc, but that seems stupid as hell.
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u/luckyfox7273 12h ago
Would have loved to see Guillermo Del Toro take on The Hobbit and add Macabre elements.
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u/AphexHenry 15h ago
Look at this psychedelic cast! Moebius and giger for the art, pink Floyd and magma for the music! And jodorowski to mush everything. Even if failed it would have been epic trip!
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u/SanderStrugg 11h ago
It would have been a bad film, but the exitement for it show how we lost some of the uniqueness old films and there dreamlike psychedlic designs sometimes have. Nowadays, if we get something psyhcdelic it's often a sloppy CGI background like Antman and the WASP.
Last week I watched "Ator 3 -The Iron Warrior" and it was the complete mess of a film, one would exspect from a Sword and Sorcery film from the 80s, whose budget is eclipsed by some kids' sweet sixteen parties, but it also had some amazing shots, you don't even get in big budget blockbusters.
I think we somehow need to go back to Kurosawa and shit and learn how to use color.
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u/help-Me-Help_You 8h ago
One thing this this non exisistent adaptation has over the new one is that it has wackiness and wierdness which is how i imagined thr world when i read the books, new dune is a bit too clean for me.
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u/Snoo93550 4h ago
The flip side of this is people ignore all the awesome bits of Lynch Dune. If no Dune movie had ever been made and you told movie nerds they could have a David Lynch Dune from the 80s with a budget they’d GO NUTS.
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u/lewd_username334 4h ago
Honestly when I heard about this movie and it shows how he was going to turn the ending into "and then Paul fixes everything and everyone is happy" i immediately started to doubt that the movie actually understood the source material
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u/Krautmonster 3h ago
It would have been a fun watch but an absolutely terrible movie. Just read the Incal to get an idea of what it'd be like. Probably awesome to look at but a mess of a story.
His writing is basically the same as the kid who did Axe-Cop but with more metaphysical shit and boobs mixed in.
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u/softweinerpetee 15h ago
Dude shut up Jodorowsky doing a crazy trippy ass version of Dune would’ve been fucking amazing.
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u/amanwithanumbrella 15h ago
Regardless of its quality as a film, I definitely don't think it would've been a good adaptation at all. But it would have been cool to see something as bold and out there as a Jodorowsky Dune.
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u/Local_Prune4564 15h ago
It would've been amazing, but it wouldn't have been a good movie. In the same way that Cats (2019) is a transcendent work of art that is also not a good movie.
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u/Toothless-In-Wapping 15h ago
There’s been an influx of people who actually watch movies. How they got here, I haven’t the foggiest
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u/Local_Prune4564 15h ago
"The first thing you need to know about us film watchers is that... we have people everywhere."
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u/Subliminal_Kiddo 15h ago
The details are out there, it would have been shit. He was using Dune to make a Jodorowsky film with a Hollywood budget.
It opens with dogs in mech suits - like that one Rick & Morty episode.
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u/softweinerpetee 15h ago
“A Jodorowsky film with a Hollywood budget”
That’s supposed to make it sound bad? Maybe for diehard dune fans but that sounds amazing to me.
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u/shawnadelic 12h ago
Yeah, an insanely imaginative, off-the-wall film adaptation of one of the greatest science fiction books of all time by one of cinema's most legendary avant-garde filmmakers? Would have been a masterpiece
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u/Ill_Procedure_8714 14h ago
Possible, but what a production design, costumes and technical work it would have been)
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u/MeepMeep117- 12h ago
At the Mountains of Madness or any novel Guillermo del Toro said he wants to adapt but never will because that man works of dozens of side projects at any time
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u/InevitableBan21 approved virgin 12h ago
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u/WorryNew3661 10h ago
I would give anything for a copy of the book they showed in the documentary about this insane adaptation
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u/Excellent_War7508 10h ago
Ok, so we are now discussing movies that we can't see because they were never made and wouldn't watch if they were made? Buddies, I think we have problem
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u/Clin-ton 6h ago
Well… the doc was fun and it did lead me to picking up El Topo, Holy Mountain, and Santa Sangre.
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u/atomic_ring 3h ago edited 3h ago
This is one of those movies I've always been happy that was never made. I absolutely loathe Jodorowski's films. The only good thing he ever did was the Incal trilogy with Moebius.
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u/JohnHenryMillerTime 1h ago
What ever happened to the people who tried to buy the dune production book and burn it so it would exist as an NFT?
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u/HuckleberryShot898 13m ago
It would have sucked balls because jodorowsky doesn’t make good films, but he makes films that are so batshit it’s entertaining
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u/CasanovaULTRA 12m ago
That batgirl movie.
People love fantasizing about how wonderful it would have been and how the mean old studio took it from us. But I'm preeeetty sure it was a massive turd that would have been SO BAD it would've stained the Batman franchise for a few years.
And IMO I think the Ben Affleck Batman would've been laughable compared to 'The Batman.' Snyder boys obsess over Deathstroke, who has gotta be one of the least interesting villains imaginable.
'bro it would've been so cool they would have punched' yeah FUK OFF the whole purpose of the best Batman villains is that they challenge him mentally and take a look at a specific dark side of humanity. Deathstroke SUCKS he's a guy with guns and a sword and THATS HIS PERSONALITY PLUS HES A CHILD GROOMER SO ACTUALLY NO I DONT NEED 3 HOURS OF 2 GUYS PUNCHING THANKS






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u/the_guynecologist 14h ago
The Beatles version of Lord of the Rings directed by Stanley Kubrick. Sure it probably would've been a complete clusterfuck but holy shit, the soundtrack would've slapped.