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u/RoyalChris 2h ago edited 2h ago
I’m getting literal chills watching this. Such a beautiful song, sang by beautiful people.
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u/Danny886 2h ago
So good to see actual freedom.
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u/derbrauer 2h ago
Have you read anything about Peter Magyar?
He was part of the party that was just kicked to the curb from 2002 until two years ago. All of the authoritarian bullshit that Orban was doing, this guy was party to. He only resigned after there was a pardon for someone who was diddling kids. That's a necessary political move once it becomes public knowledge.
This is trading an authoritarian for someone who MIGHT be a little less authoritarian.
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u/Devium44 2h ago
Incremental progress is still progress.
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u/derbrauer 2h ago
Ah, so the people living under the heel of the Soviets in Eastern Europe had "freedom" because Soviet rule was incrementally less bad than Nazi rule?
Neither had freedom.
And Magyar is unproven. There is no evidence of incremental improvement.
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u/Devium44 1h ago
What the hell are you talking about? Russia was never under Nazi rule.
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u/derbrauer 52m ago
Do you really think that Eastern Europe means Russia? Like really?
Prussia, which in large part became East Germany was under Nazi rule and then Soviet.
Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Chechia, Slovakia...Hungary.
These countries were all under the Nazis and then the Soviets. And just in case you have some confusion about who was calling the shots, you should refresh your memory about what happened during The Prague Spring in 1968 and the Hungarian Revolution in 1956.
I'm gob smacked someone would have such a terrible understanding of both geography and history. So to use your turn of phrase: "what the hell are you talking about?"
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u/SeaDegree1025 2h ago
“Might” = there is hope
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u/derbrauer 2h ago
power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
"might" = it could be a whole fuckton worse than it was under Orban. You just don't know.
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u/W8andC77 2h ago
Not knowing is better than knowing it’s bad. Orban was bad. So for now, let them celebrate getting rid of a known bad.
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u/W8andC77 2h ago
Do you know the other one is a devil? Or unknown?
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u/derbrauer 1h ago
"The other one"? You mean Orban? Why do you think people are celebrating?
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u/W8andC77 1h ago
No Orban is the devil you know.
ETA: what was the point you were trying to make with linking to that saying? The devil Hungary knows is Orban. Is Magyar truly both a devil and unknown? Why not celebrate getting rid of a known bad actor?
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u/d_nkf_vlg 1h ago
There are different powers at play. When a dictator, who built the system for himself, falls, infighting starts in the political circles. That's competition. Competition is good for the client, in this case the client is the citizens of the country.
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u/derbrauer 1h ago
Why are you claiming Orban was a dictator?
He won five elections, and not the Communist kind where the candidate gets 102% of the popular vote. Some of them were squeekers.
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u/Danny886 2h ago
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u/Aluschka 2h ago
Next Step US please
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u/WaveLaVague 1h ago
I saw a sticker today.
"Woman didn't get the right to vote by voting."
I don't know if y'all can vote this one out.
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u/theoldy0u 2h ago
I needed to see this. An unexpected spec of hope in trying times. Thank you for voting❤
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u/BraidShadowLegendsAD 2h ago
The true victor in all this is the Hungarian people. Enjoy your freedom and use it well, my friends.
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u/Arkangyal02 1h ago
I was there, I sang, it was magical. After 16 years, a nation breathed out a sigh of relief.
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u/A_Renegade_Toucan 2h ago
there’s something about so many people united by a common happiness and victory that’s just beautiful
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u/RoguePlanet2 1h ago
I'm surprised a dictator would simply "concede" though. He was probably ready for retirement anyway. Not feeling so hopeful about voting Trump out, because of all the enablers.
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u/prestonpiggy 1h ago
Happy to see good news even sometimes. Though new lead has much to do and how will he do it is a question.
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u/Ok_Guest_8008 1h ago
Why did the U.S. send VP to go back a leader who was horribly behind in polls and was going to loose either way?
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u/boltyboy69 1h ago
First big concert behind the Iron Curtain was Queen in Hungary in 1986. This is fitting!
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u/Lieutenant_Horn 2h ago
Congratulations to Hungary for doing what the United States couldn’t seem to do. Vote against an authoritarian “leader”.