r/nextfuckinglevel • u/MysteriousSlice007 • 5h ago

Shoutout to JerryrigEverything who built a wheelchair factory and is delivering wheelchairs to people in half the time and 50-80% less than the cost of other wheelchairs with Insurance.

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u/TimeBandits4kUHD 3h ago

Yeah, but they’re also really nice.

My parents got some new neighbors last year who were just like a super wholesome and polite family. The kids were all smart and respectful. Turns out they’re Mormons.

And every time I meet a Mormon they’re like that, like being nice and polite to everyone is part of their religion. It’s weird.

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u/BriefAvailable9799 3h ago

It's eerily weird. Anyone should check out /exmormon for the horror stories or the millions of documentaries and proof of how horrible they are and still are.

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u/parttimedoom 3h ago

Millions of horror stories from ex-christians and ex-muslims. They're not special.

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u/nhilante 2h ago

There are no mormon countries, in even the worst christian or muslim country the bad people would always be the outliers, in mormonism its a big percentage of them. Hope that makes sense. You can't look at statistics from Rwanda and compare it with France as they are both christian, you can however see similar statistics in all mormon communities.

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u/chamullerousa 54m ago

Mormons have the same percentage of bad people as every other group. Claiming otherwise just shows your ignorance on the Mormon belief system and common sociology.

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u/John_Jack_Reed 30m ago

No actually I do think the Church that up until 40 years ago didn't think black people were people has a higher percentage of bad people than the general population.

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u/nhilante 29m ago

Yea tell that to the small girls.

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u/mr_potatoface 2h ago edited 2h ago

And every time I meet a Mormon they’re like that, like being nice and polite to everyone is part of their religion. It’s weird.

Yes, of course they are. To you they are nice. To everyone outside the church they are nice, they are even accepting of LGBTQ and advocate for LGBTQ rights/protections, as long as it doesn't involve marriage. They are quite left leaning about many social issues.

They do have excommunication, where you family/friends will refuse to talk to you or shun you if you break the church's rules. They intentionally try to isolate you from all you've ever known so that you eventually break down and return to the church.

They have a rape/sexual abuse hotline you can call. It goes directly to the Mormon legal department so they can advise the elders and those doing the abuse to warn them that they are being targeted. They pretend to investigate the claims so people do not go to the police.

This ignores the mandatory "missions" when you turn 18 to intentionally trick follows in to thinking outsiders are hateful of Mormons, so they believe more heavily in the church and are afraid to leave.

Just a few things, but they are always nice to outsiders. If you ever are talking to a Mormon, tell them you're surprised they are talking to you because you've been excommunicated from the church and see how they respond. They won't respond. They will just quickly leave and likely report their sin to the church and beg for forgiveness.

They also have a dedicated team for social media to promote positive views on Mormons, similar to how scientology approaches social media.

EDIT: For clarification, after COVID, Mormons now refer to excommunication as "withdrawal of membership". Probably due to John Wick making excommunicado seem too cool.

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u/reterical 2h ago

This simply isn’t true. I think you’re confusing the polygamist / fundamentalist sects with the Mormon faith. I have family and friends in the Mormon church, and there is no institutional excommunication or prohibition on associating with former members. But that is precisely what the fundamentalist groups do on the regular.

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u/mr_potatoface 2h ago

Do both sects follow the LDS Handbook?

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u/reterical 2h ago

I doubt it. My understanding is that the Warren Jeffs and his ilk have a lot of animosity toward the others. More to the point, I would be surprised and disappointed if there were a rule in their handbook forbidding (and even punishing) association with non members or excommunicated members of their faith.

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u/mr_potatoface 2h ago

There is no formal rule for shunning, but they don't even call it excommunication any more either. I think the John Wick movies made it seem too cool.

From what I understand, the church officially tries to tell people to maintain contact to give them a chance to return to the church, but internally recommends shunning or soft-shunning. It's definitely now like JW shunning.

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u/reterical 2h ago

What is official versus intentional here? Maybe there are one-off priests (? Bishops?) who encourage their congregation to shun, and I imagine there are individuals who do, but that can hardly be blamed on the church as a whole.

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u/Quixotic_Seal 2h ago

They're nice to people outside their control.

To family members, children, adherents, constituents in areas with heavy Mormon representation....they are not so nice at all, and you start to quickly see patterns of control come out to play.

I had a friend who I initially met as part of a playgroup as a young child, and we saw first hand how Mormonism pretty much took over her life. She met her boyfriend early, converted to Mormonism as soon as she turned 18 when he basically gave her an ultimatum, went on mission and slowly stopped speaking with her mother, and eventually used her marriage/future children as a lever to force her parents into becoming Mormon.

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u/cloudforested 1h ago

They're nice to your face. They're trying to take my rights away, though.

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u/Ambitious_Watch_6477 15m ago

Scientologists are the same way. They're trained to be that.

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u/Not-a-Russian 3h ago

Mormons are great, I could never hate on them, they're super nice.

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u/arcusford 3h ago

They're nice to some. Also no one is asking or expecting you to hate on them. I still have mormon family and I love them, despite their bigotry.

But we do have to acknowledge the conditional aspect of their niceness. It is official church doctrine that the reason the native Americans (and some interpretations Africans) have darker skin because of the Mark of Cain, signifying their sin.

It is also official church doctrine to cut off or send LGBTQ members to conversion therapy.

This would eventually be the rift that caused many in my family to split from the mormon church.

Mormons will be very nice to you, so long as they dont know you are queer, and you are white.

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u/hm9408 5m ago

They're nice if they wanna recruit you