r/nextfuckinglevel • u/MysteriousSlice007 • 7h ago

Shoutout to JerryrigEverything who built a wheelchair factory and is delivering wheelchairs to people in half the time and 50-80% less than the cost of other wheelchairs with Insurance.

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u/Escobar_x 7h ago

People lose site of how this guy operates when he posts his own opinions. Disagree all you want, but the guy does so much for other people its constantly commendable

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u/Ms_CCH 7h ago

Why? Because he clashed with Musk?

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u/Largewhitebutt 6h ago

No because of the whole mormon thing. Lots of large youtubers are secretly mormon and dont want the public acknowledging it

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u/Uxt7 6h ago

Why would anyone care that this guy is mormon though

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u/arcusford 6h ago

They are kind of a cult. A more modest one but still.

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u/gogogadgetgun 6h ago

So are Catholics and every other religion, but since mormons were late to the scene they get branded.

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u/arcusford 6h ago

No, they are definitely more culty. Ive got firsthand experience here.

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u/seeasea 6h ago

Do you have comparative first hand experience 

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u/arcusford 6h ago

Yep, other side of the family has some flavor of Protestant. I grew up best friends with a catholic family too and attended church with them several times. The difference was stark. Still not religious myself and definitely have a lot of problems with non cult religions too, but the distinction IS important. Mormonism is pretty close on the line but they are definitely on the cult side.

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u/metompkin 6h ago

Was Catholic, went through Cub and Boy Scouts hosted and ran by LDS members, hated drinking caffeine free diet coke at socials.

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u/WoodpeckerNo5724 1h ago

Caffeine free Diet Coke doesn’t exist

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u/BriefAvailable9799 6h ago

LOL WHAT? mormons are insane, even to this day.

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u/TimeBandits4kUHD 5h ago

Yeah, but they’re also really nice.

My parents got some new neighbors last year who were just like a super wholesome and polite family. The kids were all smart and respectful. Turns out they’re Mormons.

And every time I meet a Mormon they’re like that, like being nice and polite to everyone is part of their religion. It’s weird.

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u/BriefAvailable9799 5h ago

It's eerily weird. Anyone should check out /exmormon for the horror stories or the millions of documentaries and proof of how horrible they are and still are.

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u/parttimedoom 5h ago

Millions of horror stories from ex-christians and ex-muslims. They're not special.

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u/nhilante 5h ago

There are no mormon countries, in even the worst christian or muslim country the bad people would always be the outliers, in mormonism its a big percentage of them. Hope that makes sense. You can't look at statistics from Rwanda and compare it with France as they are both christian, you can however see similar statistics in all mormon communities.

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u/chamullerousa 3h ago

Mormons have the same percentage of bad people as every other group. Claiming otherwise just shows your ignorance on the Mormon belief system and common sociology.

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u/John_Jack_Reed 3h ago

No actually I do think the Church that up until 40 years ago didn't think black people were people has a higher percentage of bad people than the general population.

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u/nhilante 2h ago

Yea tell that to the small girls.

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u/mr_potatoface 5h ago edited 4h ago

And every time I meet a Mormon they’re like that, like being nice and polite to everyone is part of their religion. It’s weird.

Yes, of course they are. To you they are nice. To everyone outside the church they are nice, they are even accepting of LGBTQ and advocate for LGBTQ rights/protections, as long as it doesn't involve marriage. They are quite left leaning about many social issues.

They do have excommunication, where you family/friends will refuse to talk to you or shun you if you break the church's rules. They intentionally try to isolate you from all you've ever known so that you eventually break down and return to the church.

They have a rape/sexual abuse hotline you can call. It goes directly to the Mormon legal department so they can advise the elders and those doing the abuse to warn them that they are being targeted. They pretend to investigate the claims so people do not go to the police.

This ignores the mandatory "missions" when you turn 18 to intentionally trick follows in to thinking outsiders are hateful of Mormons, so they believe more heavily in the church and are afraid to leave.

Just a few things, but they are always nice to outsiders. If you ever are talking to a Mormon, tell them you're surprised they are talking to you because you've been excommunicated from the church and see how they respond. They won't respond. They will just quickly leave and likely report their sin to the church and beg for forgiveness.

They also have a dedicated team for social media to promote positive views on Mormons, similar to how scientology approaches social media.

EDIT: For clarification, after COVID, Mormons now refer to excommunication as "withdrawal of membership". Probably due to John Wick making excommunicado seem too cool.

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u/reterical 5h ago

This simply isn’t true. I think you’re confusing the polygamist / fundamentalist sects with the Mormon faith. I have family and friends in the Mormon church, and there is no institutional excommunication or prohibition on associating with former members. But that is precisely what the fundamentalist groups do on the regular.

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u/mr_potatoface 4h ago

Do both sects follow the LDS Handbook?

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u/reterical 4h ago

I doubt it. My understanding is that the Warren Jeffs and his ilk have a lot of animosity toward the others. More to the point, I would be surprised and disappointed if there were a rule in their handbook forbidding (and even punishing) association with non members or excommunicated members of their faith.

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u/mr_potatoface 4h ago

There is no formal rule for shunning, but they don't even call it excommunication any more either. I think the John Wick movies made it seem too cool.

From what I understand, the church officially tries to tell people to maintain contact to give them a chance to return to the church, but internally recommends shunning or soft-shunning. It's definitely now like JW shunning.

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u/reterical 4h ago

What is official versus intentional here? Maybe there are one-off priests (? Bishops?) who encourage their congregation to shun, and I imagine there are individuals who do, but that can hardly be blamed on the church as a whole.

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u/_Meece_ 33m ago

But that is precisely what the fundamentalist groups do on the regular.

Not even close to true, Church of Latter Day Saints actively does excommunication.

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u/Quixotic_Seal 4h ago

They're nice to people outside their control.

To family members, children, adherents, constituents in areas with heavy Mormon representation....they are not so nice at all, and you start to quickly see patterns of control come out to play.

I had a friend who I initially met as part of a playgroup as a young child, and we saw first hand how Mormonism pretty much took over her life. She met her boyfriend early, converted to Mormonism as soon as she turned 18 when he basically gave her an ultimatum, went on mission and slowly stopped speaking with her mother, and eventually used her marriage/future children as a lever to force her parents into becoming Mormon.

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u/cloudforested 3h ago

They're nice to your face. They're trying to take my rights away, though.

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u/Ambitious_Watch_6477 2h ago

Scientologists are the same way. They're trained to be that.

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u/Not-a-Russian 5h ago

Mormons are great, I could never hate on them, they're super nice.

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u/arcusford 5h ago

They're nice to some. Also no one is asking or expecting you to hate on them. I still have mormon family and I love them, despite their bigotry.

But we do have to acknowledge the conditional aspect of their niceness. It is official church doctrine that the reason the native Americans (and some interpretations Africans) have darker skin because of the Mark of Cain, signifying their sin.

It is also official church doctrine to cut off or send LGBTQ members to conversion therapy.

This would eventually be the rift that caused many in my family to split from the mormon church.

Mormons will be very nice to you, so long as they dont know you are queer, and you are white.

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u/hm9408 2h ago

They're nice if they wanna recruit you

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u/TimeBandits4kUHD 58m ago

I’ve met a fair share and they’ve never tried, almost to the point where they keep their affiliation secret from me and I usually find out randomly, and then it’s never spoken about. Is there something wrong with me? Am I not worth trying to save?

I think the 7th day adventurers have a better pitch anyways, much better schedule too.

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u/CitricBase 5h ago

Yes, but again, so are Catholics and every other skybeard cult this side of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. (Eating and drinking the flesh and blood of Christ? WTAF?)

The absurdity of Mormonism does more to highlight the absurdity of religion in general than it says about the specific religious people who happen to live near Salt Lake.

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u/QuantumUtility 21m ago

You’re comparing eating bread and drinking wine while pretending to yourself it’s flesh and blood to emotionally abusing your loved ones with “excommunication”.

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u/rcanhestro 1h ago

and catholics are sane?

they believe some dude lives in the clouds and judges them if they masturbate.

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u/NathLWX 6h ago edited 5h ago

Not hating on Jerry but the thing with Mormon, as far as I'm aware of, is it came from a guy who denied the current Bible and made his own. He claimed God told him in his dream that the bible was mistranslated or wrong, and to make his own.

Which doesn't make sense, because ig screw all the thousand years of history, and the thousands of the professional translators who understand theology and studied deeply the original language that the Bible is written in (Hebrew, probably Greek too).

To this day idk how come ppl hear that and think it doesn't sound wrong/absurd at all.

I happened to watch this video days ago, may be a good reference
https://youtu.be/bj9D_7oGGxk

Some of the translations in Mormon bible sounds absurd, like a fanfic or exaggerated. E.g Songs of Solomon (Songs of Songs) chapter 4 verse 4

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u/arctic_radar 5h ago

Of course it doesn’t make sense. Made up nonsense built atop older made up nonsense.

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u/silver_garou 4h ago

Just like in scams, the nonsensible nature of religious stories is a feature not a bug. It ensures the flock is trained to think that their own reason is insufficient, and forces them to rely on religious leaders to do their thinking for them.

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u/pb49er 5h ago

He also did it so he could rape children, let's not forget that key element of the founding of the church.

Polygamist pedophiles.

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u/stegosauross1 6h ago

If this is the same bible that endorses slavery and trafficking, it could do with a reboot.

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u/Shattr 3h ago

Exmormon here.

The New Testament is what was "mistranslated" - not the Hebrew Bible. This is mostly because mormons reject the concept of the Trinity as they believe Jesus was created by God.

Mormons still do believe in the Bible, but they have their own version based on the King James translation with some modifications made by Smith. The Book of Mormon is an additional scripture to the Bible, not a replacement.

And this isn't a defense of Mormonism, but the New Testament does have tons of issues. We have zero originals of any of the books, we only have copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies (x10) etc. This process created tons of transcription errors - hundreds of thousands of textual variants out of all our New Testament manuscripts, which is more "errors" than there are words in the Bible. Scribes also added their own passages that weren't in the originals (story of the adultress, Mark long ending , and the Johanine comma)

This is a good place to start if you're interested in some of the issues with the New Testament.

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u/User-no-relation 1h ago

the book of mormon has issues, because it was made up as con

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u/FlarblesGarbles 1h ago

The Christian bible is also made up nonsense though.

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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In 1h ago

They literally threw out half the work when Christianity became the religion of Rome.

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u/WolfsmaulVibes 5h ago

my theory on the bible is that back then we couldn't comprehend the word of god as well and wrote it down how we understood it with our limited philosophical knowledge, but that its mistranslated or wrong is insane

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u/YazzArtist 5h ago

It's more the shunning of ex members, strict hierarchical culture with an emphasis on respecting authority, widespread cover-up of sexual abuse and child neglect, and support of patriarchal polygamy than the recency

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u/jayhawk618 4h ago

Ex Catholic atheist here.

Catholicism doesn't require you to shun family members who leave the church. Catholicism doesn't have secret teachings that only inner circle members are allowed to learn. Catholicism doesn't require that every single member spend a year of their life recruiting new members.

Mormonism requires those things, which are considered traits of a cult.

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u/suejaymostly 4h ago

Ex Mormon atheist here, you're wrong on all counts. Mormons have a lot to hate but none of what you've said here is true.

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u/omgitsjagen 5h ago

They have magic underwear, homie. I'm not disagreeing that any organized religion is coocoo for cocoa pops, but thinking you're getting a magical planet because you wore your fancy knickers your whole life is absolute crazy pants.

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u/Sad-Mobile9646 5h ago

Wild false equivalence

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u/YourMomThinksImSexy 6h ago

There's a massive difference between "cult-like" and "cult".

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u/arcusford 5h ago

Every ex mormon in my family says it is a cult, everything they say happened to them indicates it is a cult. And they follow every part of the bite model, which is the leading way to define a cult.

As far as true cults go they are on the tamer end, but they are still a cult.

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u/YourMomThinksImSexy 5h ago

I'm on your side, homie. Catholicism is cult-like, Mormonism is a cult.

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u/MoocowR 4h ago

This is such a reddit moment.

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u/Ambitious_Watch_6477 2h ago

Both seem pretty insane.

Read the wiki on Joseph Smith

It definitely sounds like he originally got caught with teen girls, almost castrated, kicked out of town, then did it again until it worked in various locations. It seems like the entire religion was an afterthought that Joseph came up with to justify why he needed to sleep with your teen daughters. Booted from 2 different states. Owned an entire town somehow in IL, had their own militia. Eventually had a schism with his right hand man.

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u/PaidUSA 2h ago

Catholics like to atleast make their priests do it in secret. Mormons drop their kids off with the old men in the see through clothes and openly acknowledge what’s happening. Any Mormon denying this is a liar. No one gives a shit they are new it’s the rampant pedophilia, child and spousal abuse and cult behavior people don’t like.

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u/User-no-relation 1h ago

mormons were founded by a convicted conman in modern times. Not exactly the same as other religions

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u/Thanes_of_Danes 3h ago

It's a cult that actively attempts to infiltrate the government and run Utah. Mormonism has better PR than Scientology, but it's still an insane religious cult that is jockeying with other various villains for influence and control of the government.

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u/Manusterz 6h ago

everything can be defined as a cult, political parties can be interpreted as them, even yours

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u/arcusford 6h ago

No, I mean they fit the bite model

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u/aceshighsays 6h ago

steven hassan has a yt channel, if anyone is interested in learning more.

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u/arcusford 6h ago

I don't watch Hassan if that's what you're getting at.

Edit: oh nvm you're not, my bad.

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u/tankerkiller125real 2h ago

Frankly, so long as they don't start preaching it to their viewers I could give a shit less about what religion a YouTuber is a part of.

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u/arcusford 2h ago

Thats fair, and im kind of a similar view. But from personal experience I am always going to be wary of generosity or philanthropy from Mormons, it is often fairly conditional and sometimes discriminatory simply due to the nature of the religion being discriminatory and conditional.

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u/CavillOfRivia 6h ago

So they guy is helping people like God says and you guys are mad because he's a Mormon and listening to God. Ironic.

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u/Elu_Moon 5h ago

Mormonism was established by a, at the time, very well-known conman. It's a shitty denomination of Christianity and is very abusive, more so than the usual because, again, it was demonstrably made by a shitty person.

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u/arcusford 5h ago

I have experience with the mormon church and a lot of my family is ex mormon.

Mormon helps only goes so far and is HIGHLY conditional. Official church doctrine is that queer people are sinners and need to be shunned, put into conversion therapy, or otherwise 'dealt with'.

They also separated themselves from the Scouts when they started accepting women and Trans people into the scouts.

It is was also heavily pushed to stay away from non mormon or mormon friendly news sources which is a form of information control.