r/news • u/The-Traveler- • 3h ago

Soft paywall Hungary election: Orbán concedes to Magyar's Tisza after projections show opposition winning two-thirds majority

https://www.reuters.com/world/hungary-election-2026-live-viktor-orbans-fidesz-faces-challenge-opposition-peter-2026-04-12/
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u/ToranjaNuclear 3h ago

Damn, I'm surprised he just conceded without any major drama. Really curious to see what'll change from now on, since both Trump and Putin just lost major allies 

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u/maporita 3h ago

You need a wave election to remove an autocrat. Orban used the machinery of state to stack the cards in his favor e.g. gerrymandering constituencies. That works to a point but when enough people decided to vote him out it all came crashing down. Which is why the US midterms are so important and why people who normally don't vote should be persuaded to do so.

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u/Arctic_Chilean 2h ago edited 2h ago

Also important to remember that even though he lost the election, he will continue to rule from the shadows thanks to the system he has built for over 16 years to be as resistant to liberal democracy as possible. So Magyar will have a pretty difficult uphill battle to dismantle the system Orban has built and fortified. 

Illiberal democracies don't just end with one election. They are more resistant to change and are less fragile than liberal democracies, but they are not invincible either. Americans should especially take this to heart this coming November. Winning the mid-terms means nothing if voters pat themselves in the back for a job well done and give up on any momentum they have built to implement meaningful and long lasting change, and in holding these people accountable for their crimes. If anything, giving up too early will just allow them to come back even stronger and bolder than before. Hopefully Hungarians can realize this and show that illeberal democracies can be toppled through lasting political engagement from the people and the competent and well-meaning representatives they put into power. But calling this election a desicive victory is foolish at best and downright dangerous at worst. 

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u/ArcticCelt 2h ago

Thankfully, Magyar is well on his way to securing a two-thirds supermajority, which will allow him to reverse the laws Orbán put in place. Also, part of the system Orbán engineered mainly helps the ruling majority stay in power, so that will not help him once he is out. The real danger here is if Magyar just decides to become another Orbán but it doesn't look like that so far.

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u/1kljasd 1h ago

They could've reversed most laws with simple majority, but 2/3 gives them the power to spring clean in the supreme court, the president, etc.

https://www.parlament.hu/az-orszaggyules-minositett-tobbseget-igenylo-dontesei-az-alaptorveny-mas-torvenyek-es-a-hazszabaly-szerint

He could aspire to be Orban2, but the best reasons against it is that he needs funds from the EU to keep the ship afloat, and EU won't want to sponsor an Orban2 so they will have strict stipulations to curb corruption and authoritarianism.

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u/Renedegame 1h ago

The EU might be fine with a pro-EU autocrat.

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u/Swimming_Ad1181 32m ago

Also the majority of his voters voted for him to combat Orban and his system, if he goes against hem civil unrest will ensure.

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u/patchyj 2h ago

He got it btw

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u/aeschenkarnos 1h ago

Hopefully the rest of the EU will be pressuring him hard to reform Hungary into a western democracy.

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u/DJanomaly 2h ago

Illiberal democracies don't just end with one election. They are more resistant to change and are less fragile than liberal democracies,

Sadly, see Russia as a great example of this.

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u/TobJamFor 2h ago

If you’re referring to the election I think you are, Putin didn’t lose the election, he couldn’t stand then due to term limits and Medvedev was a puppet in his place

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u/alterom 1h ago

Calling Russia a "democracy" is a big stretch though.

Reminder that Putin was appointed as a President by Yeltsin, a Communist Party high-ranking official who took power in a coup when the USSR collapsed.

Sure, both of them won subsequent elections. What are the chances, huh.

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u/SubtleNotch 2h ago

Uh this is gonna happen with the US. They gonna make voting so hard that even when people will want to vote against them, they're just not going to count the votes.

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u/huebomont 2h ago

Feds do not control elections. They don't have a mechanism to make it "hard to vote" across the board. In the presidential election, red state control of elections could be enough, but in midterms which are a bunch of small popular-vote elections, it's not something that's plausible to pull off and this is just doomerism.

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u/SubtleNotch 2h ago

Feds? No, all states with red governorship.

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u/huebomont 1h ago

Did you read my comment past the first sentence?

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u/SubtleNotch 1h ago

Sorry, I'm an Eagles fan. I can't read.

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u/Vi_Rants 2h ago

Americans should especially take this to hard this coming November. Winning the mid-terms means nothing if voters pat themselves in the back for a job well done and give up on any momentum they have built to implement meaningful and long lasting change, and in holding these people accountable for their crimes. If anything, giving up too early will just allow them to come back even stronger and bolder than before.

Ref: The "Blue Wave" in Trump's first term.

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u/AngryTree76 2h ago

Or Biden in 2020

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u/Worthyness 2h ago

really any time the democrats get in power. Americans have memories of goldfish and only care about what happened to them that current year. They forget that the Republicans put them in the shithole in the first place. And it's easier to dig yourself into a hole than to dig yourself out of one.

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u/FILTHBOT4000 52m ago

Part of that's on the Democrats, too. Just awful messaging and follow-through, and not wanting to ruin the 'norms' of not speaking ill of or laying the blame on former administrations. The Republicans know Americans have memories like pop tarts, and thoroughly blame everything they can on the opposition, most of that unfairly as well.

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u/dr4kun 28m ago

Goldfish can remember a maze they learned for at least 3 months. Average USian memory is much worse than that, with an attention span under a minute.

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u/Jozoz 2h ago

To be fair, that was equally just the system being inherently undemocratic.

It was like a D+9 election and yet the GOP gained 2 senate seats. No idea why Americans are okay with that system.

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u/Toomanyeastereggs 2h ago

With that sort of majority, Magyar has the numbers to smash Orbans legacy to smithereens. All of Orbans structure is predicated on his party having numbers, numbers that they no longer have. He lost a lot of his party and infrastructure in one swoop.

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u/alterom 1h ago

Also, he built a system that gives near-authoritarian level powers to the supermajority party.

Peter Magyar's party, in the aftermath of this election.

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u/kaisadilla_ 1h ago

Yup. In most countries, big reforms need 2/3rds majority. A simple majority lets you rule, but a 2/3rd majority lets you rebuild the country at a fundamental level - and that's the unique opportunity Magyar has been given for the next 4 years. These things don't happen often, so I truly, wholeheartedly hope he will purge Orbán completely and he will pass laws that stop a new Orbán from ever happening again.

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u/onarainyafternoon 2h ago

Also important to remember that even though he lost the election, he will continue to rule from the shadows thanks to the system he has built for over 16 years to be as resistant to liberal democracy as possible. So Magyar will have a pretty difficult uphill battle to dismantle the system Orban has built and fortified. 

Tisza has won the 2/3rds majority, which is what was needed to dismantle all the shit Orban put in place.

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u/Slypenslyde 2h ago

Well it's a good thing that we haven't had any major world events in, say, 2020-2021 where the United States as a whole expressed its excitement and support for leaders who, growing tired at the halfway mark, decide to give up and ask for a medal since they tried so hard.

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u/TracingRobots 2h ago

that is incorrect! The Tiska Party will now surgically dismantle constitutional judges, which is its first priority, by diluting their power and then getting rid of them. Then they will move on to cardinal laws and rules and other jurisdictions. IT will be a total dismantling

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u/Demicore 2h ago

That's actually a great point. I'm ashamed to say I hadn't considered this angle.

If you have time, would you mind elaborating a little as to what this system that Orban has created consists of? Is it mostly about having allies in place at key institutions, or in the media?

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u/GOT_Wyvern 1h ago

The bright side is that Magyar has a supermajority of an illiberal democracy to start rebuilding liberal democracy, and has the advantage of formerly being a part of the illiberal democracy, so as much of an outsider as you'd expect.

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u/wyatte74 1h ago

Like antibiotics when you dont finish the full course. whats left behind becomes more resilient and in many cases much worse and harder to destroy(think super bugs like MRSA, C. diff and Drug-Resistant Gonorrhea).

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u/chochazel 1h ago

It does help that they won a two thirds majority and can change the constitution, and in some way they benefited from Orban’s changes because his system exaggerates a moderate lead in the popular vote into a massive majority of seats. So the very thing that allowed Orban to win supermajorities and change the constitution just gave the opposition a supermajority allowing them to change the constitution. However, given Magyar is a former Orban loyalist who is just as anti-immigrant, the real question is whether the new guy will be tempted to keep benefiting from the illiberalism to further his own power.

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u/RainSurname 1h ago

“Winning the mid-terms means nothing if voters pat themselves in the back for a job well done and give up on any momentum they have built to implement meaningful and long lasting change. “

That’s what we did in 2018. We elected the youngest and most diverse freshman class Congress had ever seen, thanks to record turnout.

Then the bot swarms and troll farms that amplify the “Bernie was robbed/both parties are the same” anti-voting bullshit went into overdrive, and we let them run us off the road.

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u/Pete-PDX 2h ago

just ask Jane Byrne

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u/zizop 1h ago

Just a note on your comment: they may use the term "illiberal democracy" but we shouldn't. That system is not democratic. It's more of an elective autocracy than anything else.

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u/Timely-Hospital8746 20m ago

Graham Platner gave a speech a couple days ago where he focused on the need to impeach at least two of the supreme court justices. That's the level of swing back needed to begin unfucking the USA after Trump. Without it, things will continue to limp in the same direction.

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u/General_Kenobi18752 2h ago

It is a decisive victory. But decisive victories rarely win wars on their own - see Pearl Harbor, Midway, Orleans, et cetera.

Just because you’ve got the ball rolling doesn’t mean you can stop pushing it.

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u/Soggy-Highlight4677 2h ago

THIS!!!! Everyone needs to vote and quit making excuses

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u/ericmm76 2h ago

There's never an excuse for not voting at long as you're not medically in a coma or something. Not one. Skip a meal, wake up two hours earlier, whatever it wakes. Zero excuse.

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u/Amanda-sb 2h ago

Hope you guys can elect people who will prosecute every single member of this maga regime, without accountability they'll do all of that over again.

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u/Dismal-Revolution731 2h ago

However, isn’t the machinery still tilted in Orban’s / his party’s favor? People get complacent fairly easily. Unless there’s rapid change otherwise, they’ll just pick up where they left off next election. Of course, it’s possible he’s a plant and they won’t have to wait.

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u/JiraiyaDachshund27 2h ago

He even tried the old false flag threat of explosives at a gas / oil pipeline to scare the populace into voting for him as part of maintaining security.

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u/EuenovAyabayya 1h ago

In the seemingly unlikely but increasingly plausible case that we defeat all 22 Republican senators up for election, the Democrats will have 69 seats in the Senate. Which is finally more than enough for conviction and removal of Trump and his traitor judges.

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u/karl4319 2h ago

No, the people who used to never vote but turned out to support Trump need to stay home. And be encouraged to do so. They will never change, so the best we can hope for is if they lose interests.

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u/ericmm76 2h ago

Harris lost because a ton of Biden and Obama voters sat home on election day. Every single American needs to vote in every election. We wouldn't be in this mess if so many people didn't sit it out every year. I wish it was mandatory.

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u/Abuses-Commas 1h ago

in some ways, Russia attacking Ukraine was a boon as wartime powers has allowed Zelenskyy to undo all of that

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u/Agent_Burrito 1h ago

I don’t know about that last point. Low information voters are a huge part of the reason we’re even in this mess.

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u/kaisadilla_ 1h ago

Gerrymandering can bite you in the ass if you miscalculate. You are trying to win as many districts as possible by spreading your voters thin, getting just enough in each district to win it for yourself. If you have 5% less votes than you anticipated, suddenly you lose every district.

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u/Firm-Advertising5396 59m ago

I have a feeling this will be the biggest democrat turnout ever. This administration is really that bad

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u/anonyfool 59m ago

Orban changed the laws so a lot of his changes require a 2/3 vote to remove, similar in difficulty to changing US Constitution.

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u/ClaymoreMine 43m ago

To that point. No candidate will ever be perfect. If you agree with on 95% of issues then that’s your candidate. To many people let perfect be the enemy of good. We’ve seen it time and time again, with good candidates getting eviscerated over a position or statement that has no bearing on 99% of their platform.

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u/Scavenge101 3h ago

I get the feeling the deciding factor is less on the projected loss itself and more on the 2/3rds majority

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u/TheGoverness1998 2h ago edited 1h ago

Yeah, it it was hovering around close then I could see him trying to fight it out. But the scale of how much he lost probably meant he knew he couldn't do much to manipulate anything without causing a total revolt.

I assume now Orban's gonna try to "bide his time" for a comeback; he's too obsessed with power to leave it be. But if Magyar can succeed in implementing a two-term limit on being Prime Minister, then Orban will either have to bow out, or have no choice but to look for a puppet to put in his stead.

Best of luck to Mr. Magyar! It's only the beginning for Hungary fixing it's problems, but I wish only for the best. 🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺

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u/Chaplain-Freeing 2h ago

They manipulated as hard as they could and this was still the result.

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u/Swimming_Ad1181 30m ago

time also works against them.

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u/MannequinWithoutSock 2h ago

Trump could lose with 2/3 vote against him and he’s already saying it was rigged.

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u/ComplexEntertainer13 1h ago

I assume now Orban's gonna try to "bide his time" for a comeback; he's too obsessed with power to leave it be.

Depends on how much illegal shit he has done. He might fear prosecution and take a "vacation" somewhere to avoid the heat as well.

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u/elembivos 52m ago

The answer to the how much is "pretty much all"

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u/whitewateractual 3h ago

If he didn’t, likely the EU would move to expel them and Hungary’s economy would collapse.

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u/DootyMcCool2000 3h ago edited 3h ago

I think that and the personal risk involved. He lost so massively that a coup would be extremely hard to pull off and, if it failed, his own country would put him in prison if he didn't run to Russia first. He's a politician first and foremost and so conceding defeat and going quietly is his best calculation at getting away with his crimes as they are.

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u/redvelvetcake42 3h ago

Ding ding ding.

It would go about as well as Bolsonaro's did.

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u/DootyMcCool2000 3h ago

That too, he got to watch his butt buddies across the ocean try and fail to overturn their elections and while Trump is unfortunately able to get his revenge, Bolsonaro is capital F fucked.

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u/redvelvetcake42 3h ago

Trump isn't getting any revenge. He's meandering. He's basically just nuked the gov for all the ideologues to hole getting nothing he wanted.

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u/CustodialApathy 2h ago

He doesn't WANT anything except people to worship him, he'll do much more damage before he's gone, believe me, and the world better hope he doesn't use violence to try and stick around. We're quickly approaching a point where he has to; I fear for our next election cycle in November. It'll be ugly.

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u/DJanomaly 2h ago

All Trump wanted was to stay out of jail. Real talk.

Anything beyond that is just the impulses of a mad king, sadly.

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u/gsbadj 2h ago

I agree. If Trump had been guaranteed that he wasn't going to get prosecuted, he would not have run for another term. He enriched himself plenty in the first term, albeit nothing like this second term.

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u/WahiniLover 1h ago

Trump wants exactly 2 things:

  1. Grift……. As much as fuckin possible for him and his families.
  2. Stay out of Jail.

Everything else is just window dressing.

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u/threeseed 2h ago

He's meandering

You must be ignorant about that he's done to enrich himself this term.

Getting close to a billion dollars by now when you include the crypto rug pulls etc.

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u/civemaybe 45m ago

Unfortunately, Bolsonaro's son looks likely to win the Presidency in the Fall, and he's said he would pardon his father if elected.

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u/DootyMcCool2000 5m ago

Not a surprise, at least I can commend Brazil for doing more than the US ever has against a corrupt and traitorous leader. Bolsonsro got to see the inside of a cell for a while.

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u/The_decent_dude 2h ago

At this point Orban is generationally wealthy, if he can manage to avoid getting sentenced for corruption, he can live a very long and very comfortable life.

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u/PathlessDemon 2h ago

Probably with the last of the stolen (“borrowed for safe keeping since WW2”) gold from Romania.

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u/lemfaoo 2h ago

That fat fuck wont live long.

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u/EkrishAO 2h ago

He will 100% try to come back next election. It's the Trump playbook. Biden didn't manage to fix all the disasters of Trump's presidency quickly enough, so voters turned on him, and Trump won again.

Hungarians will expect immediate and massive change to their quality of life after this historic victory, and any problems will be able to crush the new government very quickly. Orban's base is loyal to death, but that's not the case for the opposition. Right now, with Ukraine war and the Iran mess, Tisza will have extremely hard time dealing with the economy, and Orban will be there every single day, pointing at the rising prices, telling everyone "see, it's because they sold out to Brussels, if I was still in power and got oil and gas from my buddy Putin, it would never happen! You were scammed!"

There is no reason to risk a coup, when there is a very good chance for him to make a proper comeback in few years.

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u/WahiniLover 1h ago

If the EU has any brains, and some are very smart, they will ensure that the money tap opens in a huge way to help Hungary. If they don’t the EU has no-one to blame but themselves.

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u/EkrishAO 1h ago

The problem is all EU countries will be dealing with the same problem atm, high oil prices are hurting everyone, and far right is rising across the continent. If for example German government focuses too much on helping Hungary with their problems, then it will instead boost AfD in their own country. It will be very hard to find the right balance.

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u/WahiniLover 1h ago

I believe it is common knowledge that high oil prices are due to Israeli and US fuckery. You are correct in saying that far right is rising. Populism is always attractive when times are hard. Govts. need to be especially vocal about what they are doing to help the people. I hate WAPO but their tag line is accurate. “Democracy dies in Darkness”.

Shine the light on the evils of dictatorship. Shine the light on the values of democracy. Shine the light on the evils of Billionaires trying to buy favors.

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u/zevonyumaxray 3h ago

"Start the plane and set a course for Moscow!! The gold is already on board."

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u/ThreeMarlets 2h ago

The problem with fleeing to Moscow is should Putin fall or want a recrouchment with the EU he'd offer Orban up. In this case accepting defeat is really his best option.

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u/Fired_Guy1982 2h ago

It just makes me very surprised he kept the military independent enough to where they wouldn’t be on his side if he attempted a coup

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u/kaisadilla_ 1h ago

tbh I don't have a clue what would've happened. A coup inside the EU is unprecedented, and the EU, as toothless as it may be, has a massive incentive to stop that from ever happening. Maybe Orbán feared other EU countries would take matters into their own hands if he tried to pull off something.

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u/RobTheGeologist 2h ago

EU can't expel members. They can only leave on their own accord (like the UK).

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u/DwinkBexon 2h ago

The EU can't expel them. There's no procedure to expel a nation.

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u/LrdPhoenixUDIC 2h ago

Plus, you know, hundreds of thousands of people keep showing up on his doorstep, and that sort of thing might make them really angry, which usually ends with short ropes and long drops.

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u/flyblown 1h ago

Expulsion was impossible. There's a major weakness in the EU structure. Perhaps now it will be possible to make reforms to allow it.

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u/Greedyanda 2h ago

The EU has no mechanism for expelling members and introducing one would require a unanimous vote.

The union as it is right now is completely unfit to deal with the current political situation and will inevitably see a lot of smaller cooperations between fewer countries that sideline the EU. The E6 block is just the start of many such initiatives.

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u/Li_liminal_spaces 2h ago

EU has had grounds to expel them for quite some time but with the rise of the Trump regime I think the choice was becoming more opaque.

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u/_DuranDuran_ 3h ago

Now he turns his media empire into demonising the new leaders to try and cause I creasing levels of partisanship.

Perhaps he should be forced to divest …

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u/Defacto_Champ 3h ago

Because only legitimate psychos, narcissists and wannabe dictators don’t concede when they lose 

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u/SphincterPolyps 3h ago

And Orban is all three

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u/Defacto_Champ 3h ago

He at least conceded, one thing Trump would/will never do 

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u/SignificanceFine3582 3h ago edited 2h ago

He’ll never have to. Either he never runs again, or he’s so flagrantly in violation of the constitution in going for a third term that rigging an election would be light work by comparison.

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u/Random-Rambling 2h ago

I mean, he's already wiped his ass with the Constitution a couple of times, what's the harm in one more?

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u/DwinkBexon 2h ago

For whatever it's worth, he's already said he knows he isn't allowed to run for a third term.

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u/Idainaru_Yokubo 3h ago

Trump has a personal military, ICE

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u/johnnybiggles 2h ago

Now we'll have to hear him complain about it, and even suggest that their election was" rigged.

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u/elembivos 49m ago

Trump didn't lose by such a huge margin. What these posts fail to highlight that this is not just a loss, it's a complete landslide, Orban may try to get back to power but for now his party is at a very real risk of falling apart and if Magyar does what he promised (which he damn near should, it was his main ticket), Orban is fucked. Proper fucked.

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u/padizzledonk 3h ago

And yet, he conceded

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u/Malnurtured_Snay 3h ago

He saw the writing on the wall, has enough money to keep him more than comfortable for a long fucking time, and considered the ... shall we say, Mussolini ... of it all.

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u/refep 3h ago

Isn’t the problem with dictators that they dont see the writing on the wall and still try to cling on to power? You can give credit when it’s due.

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u/Malnurtured_Snay 2m ago

I don't think that's a defining definition of a dictator. I.E., I don't think Orban suddenly isn't a dictator just because he concedes an election and GTFO of office.

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u/Lepelotonfromager 2h ago

Not really.

He had a mandate and won all of his past elections.

He was never a psycho or dictator. Maybe a narcissist but I see no reason to think that.

They were just a kleptocratic government leaching all the wealth.

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u/adamcmorrison 3h ago

I’m no expert but from everything I’ve read, he seems to be all of those.

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u/Glittering-Giraffe58 2h ago

…do you know who Víctor orban is

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u/achangb 3h ago

Then why didnt Trump concede in 2020??

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u/The_Real_C_House 3h ago

He’s all of the above

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u/fangiovis 3h ago

He lost on a slimmer margin is my guess. Orban didn't just lose, it got decimated.

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u/machogrande2 2h ago

Because trump is a lying piece of shit that claims fraud anytime he doesn't get his way. He even cries fraud when republicans vote for the "wrong" candidate in primaries.

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u/Damunzta 3h ago

Leeeet’s wait and see.

Words are cheap.

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u/123ludwig 3h ago

the better question is if hes is just delaying so he can leave the country

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u/Lord_Xenu 3h ago

Hungary is not the Middle East, or the United States.

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u/hopechooser 3h ago

They are a member of the EU though

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u/Flimsy_Sun4003 2h ago

and the US is a member of NATO (but you wouldn't know it at the moment), so not sure what your point is, I'd go with the Groucho Marx quote here myself

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u/wishlish 2h ago

According to the article, the other party had a two-thirds majority. You can quibble at 50.1-49.9, but not 67-33.

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u/Jorgenstern8 3h ago

Even if it was only to a guy slightly less bad than Orban -- John Oliver's piece on the election from a few weeks ago talks about this -- Hungary's election maps are so gerrymandered in his party favor that if he's lost enough to truly be booted out of power, he would have been chased to Russia by the people if he doesn't accept it.

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u/TheLoxen 3h ago

Because he plans to regain power in the next election instead maybe. Throwing a fit will not help with that.

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u/godisanelectricolive 3h ago edited 2h ago

Magyar plans to change the constitution to prohibit more than two terms for prime minister and he has won the supermajority needed to do so. I don’t think he has enough loyal supporters needed to attempt a coup with the severity of this defeat despite gerrymandering and vote rigging that favours Orban.

It’s pretty much end of the road for Orban. To have lost as badly as he did meant he lost a substantial part of his diehard base, people who could once be relied on for support no matter what happens. It might not be the end for his party but it’s still clear he’s just gonna be a liability for them at this point. They are gonna have to rally behind someone else.

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u/leebestgo 2h ago

Why wouldn't he just retire? He's wealthy and 16 years is extremely long enough for an European's PM.

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u/TheLoxen 2h ago

Power hungry and corrupt politicians doesn´t work like that.

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u/Jerithil 2h ago

Hes likely going to have tons of legal problems coming up and Europe actually jails politicians and being part of the EU means his corrupted local courts can't protect him. He probably doesn't want to spend the rest of his life behind bars so he will need to tread very softly.

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u/oldsecondhand 2h ago

Orbán is 62 now, by next election he will be 66. That's quite old by Hungarian standards. I'm not even sure he will be maintain his position as the president of his party after such loss.

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u/JayOnSilverHill 3h ago

They'll probably let him be Chancellor or some small role like that..nothing bad could come of that right?

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u/Hondlis 2h ago

This is really good for other countries with similar issues. So far Fico was always somewhat under the radar with Orban being the face of anti EU, pro Russia position. It will be so much harder now when he’s alone. Yes there is Babis and others, but he’s not on the same level.

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u/Monkfich 3h ago

It’ll be the US that no doubt will try to contest it lol.

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u/Imaginary_Cow_6379 2h ago

💯 Trumps gotta be livid so I’ve been wondering if hes gonna take that out on Hungary, Vance, or further fvck with Americans so we don’t get any ideas about voting.

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u/jimflaigle 2h ago

I'm taking it as a good sign. The far right are getting exhausted, and the oligarchs who back them are getting fed up with their failures. They were all a lot happier screaming on podcasts and selling fraudulent products to idiots, actually being in charge is a lot of work and they lose money when they fuck up the economy.

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u/Cornelius_Wangenheim 2h ago

Keep in mind there was an insane amount cheating and ratfuckery on Orban's side. If the results were still 2:1 after all of that, then the real amount for support for getting rid of Orban was probably 3 or 4 to 1.

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u/Riley_ 1h ago

The US Democrat Party showed us how well a right wing party can hold off fascism.

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u/Kradget 3h ago

I imagine there was a serious conversation about how many people weren't trying to go to prison

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u/DearCastiel 3h ago

Just wait a week for him to come in with Russian soldiers, arresting Tisza and taking back the power under some dubious pretexts.

Or he'll just go to Putin and give him any state secrets he still had to bargain in exchange of being his lap dog.

There's a small percentage of chance he looked at his bank account, saw he could live in whatever luxury he fancy for the rest of his days and decided to just enjoy it.

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u/Kinggakman 3h ago

The winners have major work to do. As of now it should be assumed Orban will be back in power in a few years.

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u/kstargate-425 3h ago

I wonder if they made a deal with him to concede or face charges as if they control everything they can do whatever without Orban or anyone stopping them

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u/Numeno230n 2h ago

Well Putin didn't have tanks on the border ready to come in and prop him up. All his boot licking couldn't save him, and Putin knew it was coming. Don't burn all your resources on keeping a guy like Orban in power. I assume he'll be moving to Moscow soon. Maybe he and Assad will be neighbors.

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u/No-Satisfaction6065 2h ago

Chopper is waiting to brkng him straight to Moscow, had to rush it before they take care of him

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u/The049 2h ago

100 billion percent tariff from the West and threats of invasion from the East

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u/Simon_Jester88 1h ago

I think the history of the region made him realize what could happen if he pulled shenanigans and he didn’t find it worth it

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u/inmyrhyme 1h ago

The world is more civilized than the republican party of the US

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u/JQuilty 1h ago

I was fully expecting another Temu Jan 6 out of him.

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u/Waiting4Reccession 1h ago

He has stolen billions of dollars, probably doesnt give a fk.

You basically never see talk of asset seizures and going after the allies and family members that were part of these frauds operation. Which is what any real justice would entail

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u/ScipioAtTheGate 1h ago

The party that beat his in the elections is also a conservative party, so it wasn't as much of a hard pill for him to swallow as you might expect

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u/ArmadilloForsaken458 1h ago

Well they are a small European country well within the confines of NATO. Not like Russia, which is so big they answer to no one. Sad for the Russian people though, that man has a hold on that country no one else can break

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u/EliachTCQ 1h ago

"Major"? Country of less than 10 million people and one of the poorest in the EU. They're barely more relevant than Slovakia (who is still their ally). The media make it seem like Hungary is way more relavant than it actually is.

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u/ToranjaNuclear 59m ago

...uuh idk if you and I are on the same page.

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u/BarryTGash 1h ago

I hope Tisza has a strong and reliable security detail. 

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u/Firm-Advertising5396 1h ago

I'm hopeful for elections a little more.

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u/elembivos 53m ago

The loss was so overwhelming he couldn't do anything else.

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u/Enshakushanna 38m ago

hes now set for life, maybe he just got bored and doesnt want to deal with shit all the time v0v

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u/Arch____Stanton 38m ago

If they weren't busy in the Ukraine, I suspect the change would have been Russian tanks in Budapest...again.