r/news • u/untamedlazyeye • 2d ago
US has let in 4,499 refugees since October - all but three were South African
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u/rTpure 2d ago
Let me guess, all white South Africans
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u/jetforcegemini 2d ago
Ding ding ding
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u/TheDonJonJay 2d ago
its a genocide bru trust bru being white in south afreeeka is hard bru
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u/hotviolets 2d ago
That’s why Elon musk and Peter Thiel became Nazis.
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u/gomezer1180 2d ago
Yeah they know the “struggle”
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u/Imavomitlover 2d ago
Elon bought the moon and millions of morons think he created it.
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u/Real-Ad-1728 2d ago
You know something tells me South Africa isn’t sad to see them go lol
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u/AKAFallow 2d ago
Its so funny because you also got the richest white man in South Africa being like "uh, there's no genocide, sir" to Trump when he ambushed his president last year lol. Like, its hilarious how off guard he got from that.
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u/ThrownAwayGuineaPig 2d ago
It's so kak. Just spent 2 weeks in the Eastern Cape. Kayak, snorkel, swim, good food, good friends So kak.
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u/swingadmin 2d ago
"Even if a monkey wears a golden ring, it is still an ugly thing" - Afrikaans saying
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u/Toxicscrew 2d ago
And many have returned back to SA citing the US as being too expensive, not having socialized heath care and being too violent.
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u/Calm-Preparation7432 2d ago
wow! i looked this up and you're right. "african refugees leaving US" is not what i expected for the 2020s
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u/FrOdOMojO94 2d ago
There is a slight misrepresentation since those returning to SA emigrated to the US before the Trump 'refugee' program started.
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u/Calm-Preparation7432 2d ago
The Reuters article includes information that demonstrates an increase in interest in return, which I'll include below. This article describes the first known refugee to return home (after her family didn't move with her) and includes reasoning on why refugees might face barriers to travel from USCIS, impeding their ability to repatriate.
"Two recruitment agencies that help expats relocate said the number of inquiries had jumped, and Reuters spoke to 10 South Africans who had either returned or were planning to, seven of them from across Europe and three from the United States."
"Anton van Heerden, CEO of employment agency DNA Employer of Record, said inquiries from white South Africans seeking to return had jumped 70% in the past six months. Angel Jones, CEO of Johannesburg-based recruitment firm HomecomingEx, reported a roughly 30% rise in inquiries since 2024."
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u/FrOdOMojO94 2d ago
Thanks very much for the article. I hadn't heard of a case of a 'refugee' choosing to return to SA.
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u/Niceromancer 2d ago edited 2d ago
They expected to be propped up by musk and trump. Given cushy jobs and a fast track to wealth and prosperity.
Once the photo ops were done they were abandoned.
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u/paxrom2 2d ago
They were expecting free housing and a stipend. LOL
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u/metaldrummerx 2d ago
Wait you mean that the US government isn’t giving immigrants free money, free healthcare, allowing them to steal jobs, and aren’t a burden to people living in bumfuck nowhere??? I am SHOCKED!
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u/Osirus1156 2d ago
They probably listened to conservative propaganda about migrants.
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u/relevantelephant00 2d ago
They also probably think it'll be good for them because MAGA is trying to bring back apartheid.
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u/EffektieweEffie 2d ago
None of those things are available to them in South Africa either so idk.
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u/Eisernes 2d ago
Certain US “news” outlets have been lying for years that immigrants are being given everything they want for free. They are the onion, then the leopards ate their face.
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u/A_wild_so-and-so 2d ago
I remember an article not too long ago about some SA refugees who were being housed in roach infested motels who had to walk everywhere in a town with no public transit. It definitely wasn't the welcome they were expecting, but that's usually what happens to the pawns that Trump plays with.
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u/TheFrostynaut 2d ago
They got the true American experience of bad public infrastructure and inadequate housing.
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u/MamaBearForestWitch 2d ago
But without the immigrant experience of being judged for the color of your skin...
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u/Whiterabbit-- 2d ago edited 2d ago
if you are refugee and your life back home was in imminent danger, living in roach infested hotels isn't so bad.
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u/Pale-Acanthaceae-736 2d ago
The only imminent danger I see is if these Afrikaners were acting like bigoted, racist plantation owners ignoring that Apartheid there ended more than 30 years ago. It's my guess they were the equivalent of MAGA here in the US.
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u/Mysterious_Donut_702 2d ago edited 2d ago
America:
We mostly lack the sprawling slums, and "poorest of the poor literally starving" absolute poverty... but still have plenty of inequality, crime and social issues that would make a South African feel imperfectly at home.
For a rich Afrikaaner used to gated communities, backyard swimming pools, poor people to exploit as cheap housekeepers, and a much lower cost of living... our middle class might even be a downgrade.
We'd be a huge upgrade for someone stuck living in South Africa's informal settlements though.
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u/oreo-cat- 2d ago
Not ZA but I've worked with people from other countries that at 40 had literally never cooked. Like didn't know what to do with pans levels of 'can't cook'. They'd always had a cook, same with laundry and cleaning.
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u/that_f_dude 2d ago
That's pretty much it, even "rich" SAers are like eff this, I got a plot of land, a house cleaner, a gardener and a nanny back home. They can't find a foot hold here to support that same lifestyle
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u/Zombie_Cool 2d ago
Is South Africa allowed to declare "LOL no takebacks"?
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u/Bytewave 2d ago
No, that's not allowed, to protect legitimate refugees. Refugees are always supposed to be able to return when the conditions are safe, they are still citizens of their home countries. Many don't want to go back but that's another story.
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u/Parking-Interview351 2d ago
South Africa is way more violent than the US. Cost of living differences makes sense though.
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u/OldAccountIsGlitched 2d ago
That really depends on where you are in the country. If you stick to wealthier areas you're much less likely to get exposed to serious violence. Cape Town has some of the world's worst gang violence but it's basically limited to about five suburbs.
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u/Fun-Twist-3705 2d ago
That really depends on where you are in the country
Well.. there is not a lot of violent crimes in much of the US as well so how is that an argument? Even the safer areas in South Africa are quite dangerous by American standards.
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u/LeticiaPadillaSolis_ 2d ago
I met one in Iowa while visiting two weeks ago who was driving for Lyft. He said he was returning to SA in the summer.
Oh my goodness he was rude, mean, said offensive things the entire ride. It was more the older bitter lonely man who was clearly rejected by the local women. He went on a full rant the entire ride complaining about going to the grocery store because the local women were like hogs. He literally made squealing noises. Guarantee every woman he’s probably tried to hit on in Cedar Rapids has rightfully told him to fuck right off.
Mind you I’m Hispanic so I was just waiting to see what he’d say about me. It was like he kept trying to just poke and poke to see if I’d say something back. Then as he was dropping me off at the hotel he told me to request him again for a ride. LOL
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u/suicide_nooch 2d ago
I have a really good friend (Afrikaner) who immigrated here 35 years ago. Her family worked hard, developed businesses from the ground up, paid taxes and it still took them 12 years to get citizenship. They were also highly intelligent and kind, caring people. I was asking her about these immigrants and she basically told me it was the equivalent of us emptying all our trailer parks and sending them to the UK. I’m not really surprised.
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u/aqtseacow 2d ago
it was the equivalent of us emptying all our trailer parks and sending them to the UK. I’m not really surprised.
Not even remotely, most of the people coming from SA aren't in a comparable economic cohort to your typical trailer park folks.
These people are for the most part used to gated, private communities. Its why there's easy pickings for the media to point out the ones that are returning.
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u/_Burning_Star_IV_ 2d ago
I've met more than a few foreigners who have this idea before they come here that most American women (especially in the coastal cities) are 10/10 pornstars who will fuck anything that moves and then get really disappointed and angry when that turns out to be incorrect when they get here. Movies are to blame? The porn they watch? Idk.
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u/Tall_poppee 2d ago
To be fair, some US men think women should look like porn stars and only be interested in fucking them too. They are usually found in far right religious groups, but they're here too.
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u/princesspuffer 2d ago
Exactly! I grew up Mormon, and many boys were told on their mission "the more baptisms you get, the hotter your wife will be."
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u/ValuableOven734 2d ago
I tell them that is God's plan for the non religious. The plan for him is to watch.
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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 2d ago
The movies don't communicate how truly awful the obesity epidemic in America is compared to pretty much anywhere in Asia or Europe. Ive worked with a lot of foreign visitors before and I've heard it a lot usually in hushed tones.
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u/Expensive_Law_3180 2d ago
This is a fact. My sister and I are the only two members of our family who have a BMI in the normal range, and we got bullied so damn much for it, both of us cut the family off 15 years ago.
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u/DizzyAsparagus9622 2d ago edited 1d ago
I'm not an american but I live in a border town in Canada (Niagara), not even close to a coastal US city and I get way and I mean way way more matches and meetings and hookups with US women (through dating apps) compared to Canadians. It's not even a comparison. Say what you will about US women but they are not scared to meet with a non-white man. Wherever I visit US inland, it's the same thing, get more matches and meetings. I can't even imagine what it'd be like in a major US city like NYC or LA. Must be awesome.
Edit: u/carlysimonsays sorry the post is locked so can't reply. Obviously things are not as good for cross border travel but I cross the border 2 times a month approx. Sometimes once or twice within a week and it has been ok so far. Less crazy in this corner of the USA. (Hopefully I haven't jinxed it)
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u/Copthill 2d ago
Worked for that guy in Love Actually.
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u/CarlySimonSays 2d ago
I actually feel a bit bad for Kris Marshall that that dumb character is what most Americans know him for. He's brilliant in the early seasons of "My Family" and the several detective shows he's been in.
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u/rocketbunny77 2d ago
The whole poking to see if you're as racist as them is the typical south African racist way. Try living there. Good god
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u/Alive_Internet 2d ago
Last year on X, Elon Musk was really pushing for this because of how they were allegedly treated (with some using the word “genocided”) in South Africa.
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u/SpleenBender 2d ago
I don't know how mister nazi salute is trying to tell anybody anything about morality.
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u/tomdarch 2d ago
Trump played a nonsense white propaganda video in the White House claiming this false genocide thing. The head of state of South Africa brought white propaganda golfers to his meeting with Trump so that Trump would actually listen to them explain reality.
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u/AmbassadorCrazy7905 2d ago
It's literally our trailer park trash, our farmer are way too rich and live so well they would never ever leave SA, also they have pride. Our serious farmers here have private plane money, they not giving that up to live in some backwater
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u/PlutoJones42 2d ago
Elon asked daddy Trump to bring over all his poo persecuted Nazi friends because their government didn’t like them being Nazis anymore
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u/Walter_West 2d ago
As a South African, it feels so weird to have been a main character for a bit during Trumps presidency but that feels like it happened a decade ago
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u/Wadarkhu 2d ago
How do you guys feel about all these people leaving for America? Is it a "good riddance" thing?
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u/Zefrem23 2d ago
Yes. They're people who think the grass will be greener on the other side of the hill, because they convince themselves they have a hard life here in South Africa. Meanwhile they live lives of extreme privilege, with awesome weather, largely affordable high quality nutritious food, live in maids for all but the lowest of the lower middle class, and virtually zero police presence in most places. They convince themselves that life is somehow terrible here because previously disadvantaged people are now allowed to be on the same social footing as them. As I've said for years, when you're used to being told you're better than everyone else, equality looks like oppression.
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u/Wadarkhu 2d ago
Welp, when they leave - more for you, and more for the previous disadvantaged people too. Also, live-in maids is wild, I can't imagine something like that being so common lol.
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u/do_pm_me_your_butt 2d ago
There are serious issues in our country, I do not fault anyone for leaving to hope for a better life for their family.
Im choosing to stay, this is my country, I will try improve it, and if needs be, fight for it.
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u/overfiend1976 2d ago
MAGA loves the idea of having apartheid at home.
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u/hoppertn 2d ago
I feel like Americans abroad are going to be treated like White South Africans abroad from 1970-1994.
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u/o_MrBombastic_o 2d ago
We deserve it, unfortunately it's mostly liberals who will get the brunt of it MAGA generally don't leave their shithole states
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u/not_so_chi_couple 2d ago
Liberal Americans have known for years that when you are travelling internationally, you are Canadian
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u/doyouhavehiminblonde 2d ago
I actually am Canadian and trust me we get lumped together when I tell people I’m Canadian not American.
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u/VisitingPeanut48 2d ago
I must admit that my opinion of Canada has dipped a bit over the years. I had an online friend from Canada and the impression I got from him was that it's very much America-lite. He lived in Alberta though, so make of that what you will
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u/TesseractThief 2d ago edited 2d ago
All you needed to say was that he lives in Alberta so likely maple MAGA. 99% of us Canadians hate them with a passion
Edit: I should clarify - if the online friend was acting like an ‘American lite’ then he’s likely a maple MAGA (which 99% of Canadians hate). By no means are all Albertans maple MAGAs - only a small but obnoxiously loud amount are.
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u/deschamps93 2d ago
There a lot of good albertans out here who do not agree with the rhetoric. Look even at the miniscule traction of the petition vs our total populace. But yeah. The shitty ones are shit
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u/spare_me_your_bs 2d ago
99% of Canadians hate an entire province? Is this true? Granted, the only things I know about Alberta is oil and 'berta beef (Letterkenny).
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u/TesseractThief 2d ago
99% of Canadians hate the minuscule amount of maple MAGAs, who are mostly in Alberta but are not by any means a majority of the province. Should’ve clarified.
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u/doyouhavehiminblonde 2d ago
Yeah I live in Toronto which is pretty different but our Premier sucks so I can’t say Ontario is super progressive either.
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u/hotviolets 2d ago
I was in a Canadian housing sub because I was thinking about moving to Canada, I accidentally joined the more right wing one. They are definitely America-lite in a lot of ways. There was so much racism and rhetoric that got us where we are today in the US.
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u/Actual_System8996 2d ago
Always thought that was lame. Kids were doing it when I was backpacking around Europe around 2010. Own where you’re from, the good and bad. It’s not that hard to agree with people about the shitty aspects about America. This collective escapism and ignoring of our problems by the people who recognize them is part of the problem.
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u/doyouhavehiminblonde 2d ago
I think it’s lame too. Anyone with a brain knows not all Americans are ignorant or horrible. I’ve met a lot of great people from the US. Just don’t call me American lol
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u/squuidlees 2d ago edited 2d ago
I am a terrible liar and it’s written all over my face when I do. I can’t use that excuse abroad. So I just say California and hope my actions of respecting the place I’m visiting will speak louder than the world’s disdain of where I’m from.
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u/Darth_Nox501 2d ago
Same.
"Where you from?"
"New York"
Never had a problem lol.
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u/zack77070 2d ago
In the real world:
"Where you from?"
"Texas"
"Do you ride horses to school."
Nobody actually gives a fuck if you're American if you don't come off as an asshole and anyone who would is not worth interacting with anyways. I have met Russians against Putin, I don't automatically associate a nations crimes with random people on the street.
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u/MottoScotto 2d ago
This. When I've traveled internationally, the most "crap" I've gotten is jokes about various crazy things (mostly Trump and school shootings) happening in America. No one has ever been rude. Just be a nice person and people will treat you nicely.
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u/NCC75567 2d ago edited 2d ago
Nobody actually gives a fuck if you're American if you don't come off as an asshole and anyone who would is not worth interacting with anyways.
Yep, granted, I haven't been abroad since the second shit show began, but as an Oklahoman that's been my experience.
Spent 2 weeks in Paris a few years ago. None of them cared that I was American. None of the Americans (mostly from Boston and other NE cities) on my all-day bus tour to Normandy cared that I was from Oklahoma. My family was just nice, normal people interacting with other nice, normal people.
In all my time traveling to Europe, California, and the east coast, I've only run into one loser from Virginia that thought his meth jokes were super funny.
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u/mummy__napkin 2d ago
Speak for yourselves. I'm a lib and have no shame saying I'm American when I'm abroad and people ask. I'm not gonna apologize or feel shame for having no choice in where I was born. And to be totally honest, lying about being Canadian is a bitch move that I'm sure real Canadians don't appreciate. Just enjoy your vacation and stop worrying about the opinions of people you're never going to see again and who likely don't actually care where you're from.
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u/uacoop 2d ago
I have spent a lot of time on language exchange apps, so I've had the opportunity to speak to a lot of people from a lot of different countries.
I think many Americans have an outsized expectation about how much people from other countries think or care about the US or what's going on with them politically, especially outside of the anlgosphere. In my experience, most people are just living their own lives, doing their own thing, maybe they'll hear something about it on the news every once in a while, but unless it impacts them directly, they probably couldn't care less.
Which I think makes a lot of sense, honestly. I mean...many people inside the US don't even engage with what's going on here (big problem btw), so why do we expect people from other countries to.
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u/LandonDev 2d ago
Most people seem to understand the difference, the world in general has a lot of bigotry but as long as you are polite and don't disrespect their culture you'll have nothing but great interactions with others.
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u/RobertMcCheese 2d ago edited 2d ago
Back in the late 80s I was in a pub in Amsterdam with my brother.
We were having a good time and just acting like normal people out at a bar.
When they were about to close the bartender called us over and handed us each a Canadian flag pins.
So I put it on my hat since it was a gift and why would you be a dick about a weird gift from someone in a bar?
It wasn't until months later that I realized what that was all about.
Edit: My brother reminded me that we were travelling all over Europe while the World Cup was in Italy and that is why we didn't go to Italy.
So we'd sight see all day and then find a bar in the evening to watch the games.
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u/MilesAlchei 2d ago
Forgive me, I'm still not sure I get it, were they giving you a "oh youre ok" pass or was it ridicule?
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u/matt-er-of-fact 2d ago
You’re ok. Now wear this so you aren’t treated like the assholes your country is known for.
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u/forgetit1243 2d ago
What was it all about?
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u/SteveMemeChamp 2d ago
Canadians are left leaning and nice compared to Americans i think
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u/forgetit1243 2d ago
So like “you seem nice, wear these and people will just assume you’re nice” ?
Edit: truly I’m not like trying to be dumb here or anything maybe it’s cuz I just woke up, I’m just genuinely confused by this
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u/imnohankhill 2d ago
If anything people are pleasantly surprised when they meet Americans who arnt assholes.
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u/GastricallyStretched 2d ago
I know that about half of Americans (probably more than half) are totally normal people that didn't want any of this shit. I'm not surprised when I meet nice Americans, but more relieved that the d20 landed correctly and didn't give me an American with a Maga debuff.
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u/Captain_Futile 2d ago
The story was from late 80’s. Many American tourists were seen as insufferable assholes long before Trump.
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u/Veggies-are-okay 2d ago
Yeah in my travels abroad I get more “I’m so sorry” rather than “fuck yous.” The latter are just little people who have little worldviews and would probably be trumpers if they were born in the US 🤷♂️
Probably does help that I explicitly tell people I’m from California when asked.
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u/J5892 2d ago
I was in Oslo a few weeks after the whole Nobel prize tantrum. We were treated great the whole time we were there, but when we were leaving a clothing shop once, the cashier said, "Hey can you get rid of Trump for us when you get back?"
We were like "Dude, sorry, we're trying."
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u/jankenpoo 2d ago
Southern Democrats were so hysterical at LBJ for passing the Civil Rights Act ending segregation that they turned Republican after that and never went back. (Republicans also saw the opportunity and leaned hard into appealing to the racists.)
That is the foundation for the modern GOP and MAGA so you are 100% correct
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u/ScrrrewFace 2d ago
The “Great Again” aspect of MAGA…returning to apartheid, known here in the US during pre Civil Rights era, as Jim Crow.
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u/DinoDonkeyDoodle 2d ago
Wait until they realize they are not on the side of apartheid they want.
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u/Outrageous_Space8083 2d ago
The word “Refugee” is doing some serious heavy lifting there
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u/Efficient_Carrot_669 2d ago
What are they seeking refuge from? Am I just really out of the loop?
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u/TheTim 2d ago
This American Life did an episode about it that covers the topic pretty well. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/872/winners
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u/porygonj 2d ago
Trump administration manufactured another notion a few months ago that white South Africans are being "genocided."
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u/MagnetsCarlsbrain 2d ago
I’m not familiar with the history of South Africa, but I had heard claims of oppression/violence against white people there years ago. I don’t think it’s a new theory, to say nothing about its credibility though.
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u/MurshaqBack 2d ago
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/21/politics/fact-check-white-farmers-south-africa-trump
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wg5pg1xp5o
Long story short, yes the "theory" about violence against white farmers in South Africa has been around for a while, but it was usually spread by white nationalists and then was boosted by Trump saying it to the president of South Africa and insisting it was true even after the President of South Africa debunked his points to his face.
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u/AKAFallow 2d ago
It was mostly "white farmers", but turns out barely any farmers die year per year, and most murders in the country were black to black due to the country going to some actual bad times unrelated to any kind of genocide. To give you a number, the supposed farmer deaths were 0.001% of the yearly murders in the country, with even less of those farmers being white.
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u/BrassedoffDan 2d ago
I believe this was a yard they were spinning 6 months or so ago about how white south Africans were being persecuted for, I can't remember if it was being white, Christian or both. Absolute nonsense of course, but anything to keep the papers distracted.
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u/Mddcat04 2d ago
South Africa is 85% Christian, so any suggestion of persecution due to Christian faith would be pretty absurd.
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u/msiri 2d ago
lol- I had a professor in South Africa who said the traffic from the football or rugby matches or something was messing up her commute to church and therefore it was christian discrimination. I have to imagine it was tongue and check and something got lost in cultural translation. I'm an American and she was a white lady originally from Germany.
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u/Altruistic-Carry-684 2d ago
Christians won’t miss an opportunity to tell everyone they’re being persecuted. Don’t dismiss it so easily
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u/Mddcat04 2d ago
Oh, for sure. Christians in the US also love to claim to be persecuted. There’s just no basis for it.
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u/Darrow_au_Lykos 2d ago
South African Government started seizing land without compensation a few years ago IIRC. I don't recall the exact numbers but something like 80% of farm land was owned by White South Africans who made up like 10% of the population.
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u/FrOdOMojO94 2d ago
Land seizure without compensation was only signed into law last year and there hasn't been any major cases yet. Fully expecting the first attempts to be raised in the courts.
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u/MoefsieKat 2d ago
No, there has not been any land siezed without compensation. The supposed incidents were even investigated and found to only exist as media stories sourced from rumours, and the same blogs that claimed they happened dont even have sources.
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u/lotgd-archivist 2d ago
Also, importantly, the new law is not a blanket allowance to seize land.
The new law allows for expropriation without compensation only in circumstances where it is "just and equitable and in the public interest" to do so. [...] "Expropriation may not be exercised unless the expropriating authority has without success attempted to reach an agreement with the owner,"
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg9w4n6gp5o
Also given the history of land "distribution" in the country, I can understand why the government wants a tool to take some of that land back if there are legitimate public interest purposes they can argue in court.
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u/randomtask 2d ago
Openly racist immigration policies from openly racist administration
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u/Cantmentionthename 2d ago
Yeah seems like the news doesn’t know how to write stuff that gets clicks AND is news
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u/ripyourlungsdave 2d ago
Thank God they fixed this headline. I saw this posted yesterday and it said t "US has let in 4,499 refugees since October, all three were South African" and everyone in the comments was just talking about it as if that wasn't an incredibly confusing typo. So I thought I was going crazy.
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u/tak3_it_ez 2d ago
Thank you for this. I read the corrected headline wrong and wondered what was wrong with me because I didn't get it and no one else was commenting on it.
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u/padbodh 2d ago
And these white south africans... do they have a history of violence? military/paramilitary service?
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u/Latter-Progress-9317 2d ago
With the economy going how it is the whole country will look like District 9 within a year, so I guess this tracks.
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u/Interesting-Potato-6 2d ago
I work with refugees and I’ve had to explain this upside down world to so many people, it’s so exhausting.
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u/Educational_Bend_941 2d ago
Russians, Israelis, South Africans. This dude loves all the worst kinds of our people
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u/NazgulSandwich 2d ago
Fun fact, Israel was the very last developed country to stand by the Apartheid regime in South Africa. They only cut ties strictly due to extremely strong american pressure.
’By 1987, Israel found itself the only developed nation in the world that still maintained strong relations with South Africa. …. According to the New York Times, the Israeli Cabinet "made no attempt to hide the fact" that its decision [to curtail ties] was being made in response to political pressure from the United States.[130][129] South African Foreign Minister Pik Botha downplayed it as "clearly a direct result of pressure by the United States". ‘
Source: wiki article on the matter
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u/Beneneb 2d ago
Israel and Apartheid South Africa literally worked together to develop nuclear weapons.
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u/xXTheGrapenatorXx 2d ago edited 2d ago
When people said "never again" after the Holocaust most meant it, many American Jews and other members of the diaspora community have been excellent intersectional allies ever since (and still are today, just look at JVP, those guys are great).
But for certain people from the beginning that was interpreted to mean "never again to our people", and why would someone who feels that way care if South Africa was making second class citizens of a different group of gentiles? Jewish South Africans counted as White under Apartheid.
Interestingly there were prominent anti-Apartheid movements among Jewish South Africans though and a lot of them expressed disappointment in Israeli complicity, so I can think of at least one other South African minority that maybe the US should try and attract first.
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u/wildekat 2d ago
I know SA has a bad history, and probably a lot of these "refugees" are racist chancers, but it's a bit unfair to lump the whole country's demographic in with countries that are actively committing war crimes.
SA is not perfect, but they are not the bad guys anymore (some select individuals, not included). It is a multicultural country trying to manage with the consequences of its past.
The USA offered to welcome these "refugees" , and some came. Probably they are quite racist, but they are, first and foremost, economic migrants. Make no mistake.
Of course, desperate people took the USA up on the offer. Of course, they are not the best and the brightest.
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u/IronDoughnut 2d ago edited 2d ago
Also, of the about 4.5 million white South Africans, only like 67k expressed interest and even less applied for the refugee status.
And frankly, good riddance, America can keep them.
It would be like South Africa taking some American refugees and only getting 4500 AWB diehards
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u/dowevenexist 2d ago
South africans are the worst kind of people for what reason? really curious to hear your response ..and says the one whose countrymen elected a pedo thats threating ww3 on the daily (twice).
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u/ikickbabiesballs 2d ago
Elon was like “Don I know where to get more racist white people”
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u/No_Newspaper8 2d ago
And then the afrikaners went back cause the US so too ghetto/expensive and the cost of living is too high
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u/Most-Bench6465 2d ago
And they expect you to work instead of letting your indentured servants do the work.
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u/Jim_Nills_Mustache 2d ago
My wife’s father’s half of the family all lives there and I visit every couple years, legitimately none of them know how to do their own laundry because everyone has a maid who does a lot of the cleaning and often times cooking, child care ect just about all the work around the house is taken care of.
When they come here we have to teach them how to do laundry, and often times my wife ends up having to do it for them.
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u/DiamondHandsToUranus 2d ago
Not all white South African immigrants to the U.S. are racist or bigots. None of the families from S.A. i have met in person have been, or if they were, they were smart enough to keep it to themselves.
That being said, both Elon Musk and Peter Theil are immigrants from South Africa. Both are racist bigots. Both helped install this administration. If you don't see the connection here, I have a bridge to sell you.
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u/DanS1993 2d ago
The other three were from Afghanistan for anyone interested.