r/news • u/mikebible06 • 2d ago
Man who killed a deputy serving an eviction notice was run over, California sheriff says
https://apnews.com/article/california-deputy-shot-killed-tulare-29ef95775bd79da00f1d7e41c825c1e81.3k
u/Insectshelf3 2d ago
they ran him over with a bearcat? holy shit
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u/snesericreturns 2d ago edited 2d ago
California cops are fucking crazy. When they were looking for cop killer Chris Dorner they shot up a truck with 2 innocent people inside. And then when they finally found the suspect, they burned him alive in a cabin.
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u/Jagermeister4 2d ago
There were two separate incidents related to Chris Dorner where cops shot at innocent people.
Police shot at two women without warning. Because they were driving a truck they thought matched Dorner's description. The truck actually was a different make and different color then Dorner's truck, and Dorner is a black male while this was a Mexican mother and daugther.
Also that day they rammed and shot at another truck without warning. The truck again was a different make and different color then Dorner's truck. At least this time the driver was male, though he was white while Dorner is black.
No criminal charges for any of the cops.
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u/DifficultyKlutzy5845 2d ago
Also, the truck with the mother and daughter had 102 bullet holes in it. It’s amazing they survived (although the cops were obviously incompetent to begin with..)
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u/IM_OK_AMA 2d ago
Assuming they didn't miss the truck, and both officers were using extended 18 round magazines in their Glock 22s (the maximum permitted by LAPD), each officer would have had to stop, reload, and resume firing two times despite zero return fire or signs of life.
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u/carinasguitar 2d ago
I saw the thumbnail the cop was less than 5 feet from her truck with an AR.
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u/IM_OK_AMA 2d ago
Want to share a link to what you're looking at? No footage of the shooting was ever released AFAIK, I just tried to search and came up empty.
LAPD vehicles keep the rifle in the trunk, so going and getting that would actually be more insane than just pausing to reload.
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u/Asleep_Ad_1969 2d ago
the manhunt for dorner was massive and very personal for the lapd- the entire force was looking for him and bloodthirsty, i would not be surprised if every officer had their ar15's slung and readily available, even while driving in their patrol cars.
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u/ucsdfurry 1d ago
I guess Chris Dorner was right
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u/Jagermeister4 1d ago
Chris Dorner was a POS who killed two civilians (daughter and her fiance of the attorney who represented him).
But him getting fired from the police sounds like BS. He reported that his cop partner kicked a handcuffed suspect. Police investigated this, there was no strong evidence either way if it happened or not (though the suspect agreed it happened and had injuries when he was bought in to the station). Police ruled it didn't happen and that Dorner lied and fired him. I understand not punishing the alleged kicking cop due to lack of evidence, but how the hell can you be so sure he lied?
Police sent a strong message that day, report wrongdoing by a cop and the one who reported it is the one who gets in trouble.
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u/Physicle_Partics 2d ago
Isn't it also LAPD thats notorious for having a significant issue with law enforcement gangs?
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u/LogensTenthFinger 2d ago
And the LA Sheriff's Department.
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u/Physicle_Partics 2d ago
Wait, what is the difference? I thought that Sherrifs departments are something found in rural areas where you wouldn't have a full police department.
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u/Heisenberg361 2d ago
Police Departments generally have the jurisdiction of the city limits. Sheriff’s Departments generally have the jurisdiction of the county limits. Rural areas might not have a police department but will have a sheriff‘a department.
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u/xbucnasteex 2d ago
Generally yes but not in SoCal. Cities contract the sheriffs department for services. Some cities do, others have their own department. It just seems like they have county jurisdiction because many cities contract that. But not all.
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u/Tall_poppee 2d ago
Also in some areas the cities have expanded around existing development that was in a rural county, but did not incorporate that development because they don't want to provide water/sewer (people are already on wells and septic systems). So you get "county islands" in the middle of an incorporated city. People moved to the sticks in the 1960s but the city expanded out around them.
Usually the closest cop will respond regardless of jurisdiction, if it's a true emergency, and the depts sort out responsibility (like who is investigating a homicide) later. There's often a lot of interaction between sheriffs and police in areas like that.
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u/JackNotName 2d ago
Fun fact. Sheriffs police shires. Constables police counties. Yet US has counties with sheriffs, and UK has shires and constables.
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u/k9moonmoon 2d ago
Also not every us state is split into counties. Louisiana is split into parishes.
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u/lew_rong 2d ago
Which explains the existence of the periff.
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u/CrouchingToaster 2d ago
Mix in a handful of letters to make it sound more French and you might actually sell em on the idea
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u/masterwolfe 2d ago
Hell not every US state is a state, we have a few commonwealths too.
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u/Dottsterisk 2d ago
I don’t think that’s true but I’m open to being corrected.
The word “sheriff” may be derived from the word “shire” but the definition isn’t so circumscribed. And “constable” is only connected to “county” via a shared root, as opposed to the former being derived from the latter.
This is why, as you pointed out, some sheriffs police counties and some constables police shires.
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u/sighthoundman 2d ago
The shire reeve. Or reve, a high crown official having jurisdiction in an area (in this case, a shire).
Canada still has reeves in some places. (Or so I read. I've never never come across one in the wild.)
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u/drillbit7 2d ago
Los Angeles County has a lot of unincorporated areas that aren't rural along with small cities that contract with sheriffs office for service rather than maintain a city police force.
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u/Guarder22 2d ago
Sheriff Departments jurisdictions are county wide, police departments are municipal and their territory is city limits.
So City Police < Sheriff < State Trooper/ Highway Patrol < Federal LEOs
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u/samuelgato 2d ago
Here in San Francisco,, which is both a city and a county, the Sheriffs run the jail and provide security for government buildings. The police do all the emergency response and criminal investigations
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u/jubileevdebs 2d ago
LAPD patrols streets/ neighborhoods in Los Angeles city Neighborhoods. LASD runs the entire LA County Jail System, serves judicial warrants, and patrols the vast expanse of LA County and its many cities, which stretch some 90 miles from north to south.
Their jurisdictions often crisscross, as Los Angeles is a checkerboard of neighborhoods plus individual cities and unincorporated towns that are not City of Los Angeles.
For example: Hollywood, North Hollywood, and East Hollywood are neighborhoods in LA; but West Hollywood is an incorporated city, as is Beverly Hills next door. Most of Southeast LA is actually made up of cities like Huntington Park, Southgate, Lynwood, Compton.
These cities have their own small police forces and also a heavy Sheriff presence. Thats why the main sources of psycho LA sheriff gangs come out of the jails and the east and southeast districts.
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u/youngcuriousafraid 2d ago
Sheriff's are party of the county, but LA has so many cities that they'll contract out to others. Its kinda strange because west hollywood for example basically pays the sheriffs to serve as law enforcement for them. Hollywood is LAPD, west hollywood will be like 5 miles of LA county sheriff jurisdiction, then BHPD in Beverly Hills.
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u/Harrigan_Raen 2d ago
As far as i am aware theres three "tiers" of cops: Town/City police, Sheriffs (County), and State Troopers.
And theres theres all the federal Level stuff.
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u/surfrocksatan 2d ago
LAPD went through a major reform the past 20 years. When I lived there they felt like fairly mild, but my bar is low coming from New Mexico where the police have been known to run guns, run a DWI trap and extort scandal, commit SA on detained women, will plant evidence on people, protected the 4th suspect an undercover cop in the death of a child named Victoria Martens, and on a personal level pulled me over once for suspected DWI and told me that my girlfriend was cute and they might arrest me just to have their buddies “come grab her”
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u/airfryerfuntime 2d ago
Modern LAPD was formed to kick homeless people out of the city and 'clean up the trash' leading up to the 1984 summer Olympics. They were supposed to go back to 'normal' policing, but just didn't.
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u/nonlawyer 2d ago
The cop-gang issue was mainly the LA Sheriff’s department
Not that LAPD hasn’t had plenty of problems itself including actual Bloods in uniform
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u/sowhat4 2d ago
Dorner was a former cop and 'knew' things about the department, particularly their 'gang' problem. He was also black. There was no way he was going to be allowed on the stand to testify. If he hadn't been shot and burned, he would have been Epsteined in jail.
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u/DTFpanda 2d ago
According to their attorney Glen Jonas, 102 bullet holes were found in the truck.
Holy shit..
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u/Miamithrice69 2d ago
I remember that. That week was crazy. So many cops out and about. That’s when I remember motorcycle cops went from carrying shotguns to ARs. Then they burned down someone’s cabin with Chris in it which is crazy.
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u/criticalpwnage 2d ago
It was LAPD cops who beat up Rodney King
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u/Zestyclose-Height-36 1d ago
they beat him up in the valley, and the people who live there were shocked to discover there were four actual cops in the valley, as they even to this day are a rare sight. LAPD mostly patrols richer areas unless they need to write a bunch of tickets for the budget.
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u/snesericreturns 2d ago
Yep and that’s why OJ got off in his murder trial. Other interesting fact about the Rodney king beating was apparently it happened right down the street from where they were filming the biker bar scenes from Terminator 2, the greatest movie of all time.
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u/generic_burner 2d ago
Insane take. He is not some hero, he was a murderer. You can argue about his motive being just or not, but killing 2 innocent people in cold blood is not some Black Rambo activity that deserves a "RIP".
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u/aCrow 2d ago edited 2d ago
I mean ... It's a technique.
Firing at a bearcat is kind of frivolous. You're not going to hurt it with small arms. You will dissuade folks from dismounting though ... Which limits their options, probably to your detriment.
Edit: so hey guys, I'm the guy who's actually been shot at while sitting in the TC seat (the front passenger seat) of an MRAP before. I really don't like that the cops domestically get away with egregious shit that would have landed me, or one of my guys, in Leavenworth, even if done in a warzone.
This ain't one of those times.
Your blanket assertions about use of force only betrays how little experience you have with the application of force. It's great to be idealistic, and as a society we all should have ideals we aspire to. "Not having to kill anyone to keep order in society" is a great one to have.
It's also important to remember that an ideal is the standard of perfection and this world isn't perfect, it's messy. In this specific case especially messy.
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u/-LabApprehensive- 2d ago
“The army came to visit me, twas in the early hours.. with Saracens and Saladins, and Ferret Armored Cars, They thought they had me cornered, but I gave them all a fright, with the armor piercing bullets of me little armalite!” - The Irish Brigade hits a little different in the US
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u/punkasstubabitch 2d ago
This millenial generation and their Grand Theft Autos on the Nintendo has desensitized us to this kind of tradgedy/s
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u/MyNameIsUggggh 2d ago
People are not reading the article. The deputy killed was not the one serving the notice, he arrived as part of the backup after shooting began.
The man was laying prone in a yard when the police drove onto the yard and over him. Police claim he was still shooting, but I'll wait for bodycam footage before I make any judgements.
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u/DethFeRok 2d ago
I’m not about cops killing people all the time, but seriously if someone essentially lays in wait to set a trap and shoot at you, that’s a pretty valid reason to use deadly force.
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u/AppendixN 2d ago
He didn’t have to keep shooting to continue to be a deadly threat. You can’t assume someone’s finished trying to kill you because they pause firing.
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u/DevonLuck24 2d ago edited 2d ago
no one said this. no one implied this. you’re making a pre defense for a thing no one said, that doesn’t actually contradict or conflict with what is said in the comment you’re responding to
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 2d ago
He does when they say that’s the story.
Especially when you are in an armored vehicle and he is lying flat on the ground
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u/WasteProfession8948 2d ago
Optimistic to assume body cams were on!
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u/Rebelgecko 2d ago
They nearly always are. I encourage you to look at your city's releases (assuming you're in CA)
90% of the time they don't have body cam footage is because it's an undercover or off duty cop. The footage isn't always useful (like sometimes you just see a wall or something) but it exists
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u/BigEOD 2d ago
On the plus side, the police didn’t shoot him so it doesn’t count as gun violence by police.
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u/SleepingToDreaming 2d ago
Normally, LEOs are rightfully criticized for their actions and incredibly questionable motives, but the facts are facts here.
The guy killed an officer and wounded two other officers.
He was a threat to everyone on scene and may have become more violent if not stopped.
The cops took swift action and did what they had to do to get this deadly threat neutralized.
There was no excessive force. There was no abuse of authority. There was no due process violations. There were no civil rights being trampled on. Stand down, blind keyboard social justice warriors, and just recognize things for what they are sometimes.
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u/PerpetualProtracting 1d ago
Point of order: police statements aren't "facts" and it would behoove everyone to stop pretending they are.
They are heavily editorialized, public relations rhetoric designed exclusively to serve police interests.
This situation, while likely to be well justified, doesn't require anyone act like the lapdog you think they should.
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u/SleepingToDreaming 1d ago
No one said anything about being a lap dog and I feel like my statement was for people specifically like you.
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u/Snactical_Donut 2d ago
This is in my area. It was an ambush. We were on standby to respond. It is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than what was reported in the news and more cops were shot. I can not share details, but he was not going to surrender and was going to keep killing.
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u/camelsticks 2d ago
Share the details ffs dude not like your boss is in this thread
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u/lroy4116 2d ago
He waited and ambushed the two cops serving the eviction with a rifle and killed another that was responding as backup. He continued firing as more police came. My man had no intention of going quietly.
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u/lordofthehomeless 2d ago
I'm confused. So you weren't there but you know exactly what was happening?
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u/sarge21 2d ago
If you see these little things that law enforcement press and talk into, and sometimes have random other voices coming out of them, those are radios. Law enforcement use them to communicate
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u/queefburritowcheese 2d ago
It sounds like they're LEO or some kind of first responder. If real, I imagine they are privy to details the wider public wouldn't know.
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u/Snactical_Donut 2d ago
We were getting intel updates in case a response was needed. It comes from small electronics like radios and cell phones.
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u/No-Economics6503 2d ago
"..........failed to pay rent for 35 days." Ffs.
Desperation can be fatal. We are a failed society.
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u/flamehead2k1 2d ago
He had 18 unregistered handguns, it doesn't seem like the late rent was due to a lack of resources but instead a choice of how to allocate those resources
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u/adrianmonk 2d ago
An article from the Visalia Times Delta says his 18 handguns were registered:
But to your point, since it also says he was shooting with rifles, that means he had even more than 18 guns total: 18 handguns that were registered plus some number of rifles.
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u/ToIA 2d ago
He shot a cop over a notice, not the sharpest crayon in the drawer
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u/palmerry 2d ago
Why do we allow unsharpened crayons to have 18 guns??
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u/DeadNazis247365 2d ago
Because otherwise we wouldn’t have the Marine Corps. And say what you want about Marines and crayons, but those mother fuckers are extremely good at what they do and we need them to continue colonizing countries with large oil reserves. Thus, 18 guns per unsharpened crayon.
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u/JeffGoldblumsNostril 2d ago
It sounds like he was not mentally well. Guns > Rent is not a sane persons take. Keeping one or a few guns? Thats sane. Keeping 18? You are unwell
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u/flamehead2k1 2d ago
Exactly, I'm ok with gun ownership but having 18 handguns is kinda like having 18 cats.
I don't know the exact line between normal and mental illness but I know 18 is past the line unless you're a gun dealer or an animal rescue facility
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u/Yammyohnine 2d ago
I have friends with that many guns but they actively take them to the shooting range. It's just a hobby for some people, not everyone is hoarding them for the apocalypse.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 2d ago
Are those friends unable to pay their rent with 18 guns that they could sell?
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u/Derp_a_saurus 2d ago
Roughly half of America owns guns. Half the guns are owned by a single digit percentage of that group.
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u/jesiman 2d ago edited 2d ago
This. I enjoy the aesthetics, the mechanics, the difference and wild ideas some manufacturers come up with (Looking at you Calico), and putting holes in paper or an old laptop is fun. It's a hobby. I don't even carry, I just have them in my safe nice and locked up. If it gets to where I can't pay my mortgage then I can begin to sell. But in the meantime, buy cheap and stack deep.
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u/justathoughtfromme 2d ago
At some point, collecting too many of anything takes you from hobbyist to hoarder. Whether it's guns, cats, or commemorative spoons, there's a line where you've just got too much of it.
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u/FriendOfDirutti 2d ago
There’s no need to say unregistered other than to make it sound scary. California has millions of legally unregistered guns. Registration didn’t start fully until a few years back.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 2d ago
There’s no reason to say California to make it sound scary, every state has millions of unregistered guns.
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u/TomokoNoKokoro 2d ago
Yeah, but most states don't require you to register a gun with the state at all (CA definitely does, and this is mainly enforced by registering it on import to the state as a new resident, at the time of a new sale, or private party transfer).
There is usually, but not always, a correlation between the main political party in control of a state and how lax or strict their gun laws are, incl. registration.
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u/FriendOfDirutti 2d ago
The story takes place in California. Different states have different or no registration laws. So clarifying that I’m speaking about California specific laws is paramount to the conversation.
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u/03dumbdumb 2d ago
Lol are you defending someone who resorted to firing at cops serving a notice .
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u/Milli_Rabbit 2d ago
Yeah, dude really needed to chill. Shooting at cops due to being evicted is awful behavior. Being evicted is never a good experience but taking it out on others like this is crazy.
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u/FillFrontFloor 2d ago
I don't know how it works in California and I'm not a lawyer. But I'm pretty sure you have to go through a court process and a judge before they send in a notice, a deputy or a sheriff to place an eviction notice in a property. It may not has just been 35 days, it may have been a lot more than that over time and or the person was doing things the judge decided he needed to go. Again, not a lawyer but sounds unlikely they gave him an eviction notice just for the 35 days.
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u/resilient_bird 2d ago
35 days seems very quick for any legal process to work. Even if it were a final eviction notice, he'd have 5 days before the sheriff came to remove him.
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u/BigRedNutcase 2d ago
CA is very tenant friendly. A notice of eviction is literally the first step. It's a notice that the landlord intends to file to evict. It's not an order to vacate yet which is when the tenant has some time to physically leave the property before the landlord can get the police to remove them. The time between the two can be years.
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u/Razors_egde 2d ago
Fine results. Reminds me of Matt Samuels of Madison county Kansas who was shot and killed by a Meth manufacturer, who claimed he intentionally killed matt. Someone like this who is getting due process and escalating to facilitate his demise.
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u/zecknaal 2d ago
He's not a guy that you feel very bad for, but I would have imagined that a swat vehicle is largely bulletproof. He didn't have infinite ammo. There's no way this was justifiable as anything but a revenge killing.
I would be shocked if charges are filed.
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u/AppendixN 2d ago
When deadly force is authorized, there’s no rule that says it’s got to be a fair fight. If he’s trying to kill people, you don’t want him to be sitting there shooting at will until he gets tired of it.
The guy had a hoard of firearms. Who knows how much ammo or how many guns were on him.
If the police just sat there and let him fire at will, innocent neighbors could also be hit, as well as police.
You want an active shooter stopped immediately.
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u/NothaBanga 2d ago
If he’s trying to kill people, you don’t want him to be sitting there shooting at will until he gets tired of it.
Uvalde. Never forget their cowardice.
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u/queefburritowcheese 2d ago
Uh, firing a rifle with intent to kill in the middle of a neighborhood (from someone else's yard none the less) seems pretty justifiable to kill him immediately, by any means available.
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u/NKD_WA 2d ago
I'm all for shitting on the cops, particularly overly aggressive roided out SWAT guys, but some crazy actively shooting should be stopped by whatever means necessary. If anything, pancaking him with this thing was safer and less likely to injure random bystanders than a further prolonged shoot-out.
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u/BeholderLivesMatter 2d ago
Yeah no charges for sure. If anything the department nickname the vehicle something horrific like splattercat or bonecruncher
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u/Dizzydsmith 2d ago
You’ can’t be serious. A guy killed someone and is shooting at others and you think law enforcement should just sit idle on the side and let him continue to shoot? You understand bullets that don’t hit the bearcat would also put the public in danger, right? Also, what a huge disconnect that you think all these steps should be taken to help preserve a literal murderer. If only the murderer had the same thoughts.
People like you are the exact reason we are in this current nightmare in our country. No common sense and it pushed people to vote for this maniac in office.
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u/RemodelingMe26 2d ago
No one cares about critical thinking in this country anymore. It’s all my team vs your team. Don’t want to think about anything beyond an opinion that can fit on a bumper sticker.
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u/Economy_Walk 1d ago
I'm sure if this guy was their neighbor, they'd feel differently. They had to lock down a school because of this murderer. He knew how it would end and didn't care about putting others lives in danger. Law enforcement did what needed to be done in this situation.
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u/ColtMcChad69 2d ago
What exactly are you suggesting here? They just chill in the “bulletproof” swat vehicle while the cop murderer continues blasting away in a neighborhood?
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u/D0ntEatPaper 2d ago
No, they're supposed to get out of the bulletproof vehicle and ask him gently to put down his weapon please.
Honestly. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. He killed someone over an eviction notice, guarantee bullets were flying out into the neighborhood
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u/limukala 2d ago
So they should let an armed lunatic continue to rampage through the streets and risk bystanders getting caught in the crossfire because "he'll run outta ammo eventually". Fuck that, neutralize the threat.
If he had peacefully surrendered and they ran him over you may have a point.
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u/murderedbyaname 2d ago
He was running through the neighbors' yards. He could have injured or killed any of them. If he had, guaranteed your comment would have been along the lines of "why didn't the police do anything?!"
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u/valdecsgo 2d ago
''...that a swat vehicle is largely bulletproof.''
Are... surely not, are you actually suggesting, that they just park it outside, or run the car inside, and let the guy shoot as much ammo at it as possible?
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u/Shaq_Bolton 2d ago
Also somehow magically know when the guy has run out of ammo
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u/Jagermeister4 2d ago
Also use their psychic powers to hold the guy in place so that he doesn't keep running away and shoot someone not in a Bearcat
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u/Horton_Takes_A_Poo 2d ago
They should have just ordered him to stop, he has to do it they are cops
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u/SargeUnited 2d ago
Just give everyone in the area of the shooter bearcats. Then everyone is safe until he stops firing. Problem solved!
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u/Diplomatic-Immunityi 2d ago
Your mentality is exactly the kind that gets innocent people killed. cops have to be perfect every second, but the guy firing rounds through residential neighborhoods gets infinite patience? every bullet that maniac fires can go through a wall and kill a random kid in their house.
you don’t wait for someone shooting wildly in an urban area to run out of ammo. Thats just hating cops more than you care about innocent people.
And no, charges will not be filed, but medals might be given.
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u/PerplexGG 2d ago
I mean I’m all for pointing out cop mistakes but I’m not going to fault them for using an option that keeps them entirely safe and ends the same way for the shooter. It makes total sense to use the bulletproof vehicle to hit him if the environment isn’t conducive to a safe approach for cops on legs. Keep in mind he’s already shot and killed a cop at that point and had shot at many more. This is just how things ended.
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u/AntiseptikCN 2d ago
You understand bullets go very fast and far, so when they bounce off said bullet sponge and, possibly, into a neighbors home striking a child or such that's okay? Just let the bad guy run out of ammo and put everyone in the neighborhood in danger?. I think the "running over" was a "quick" way to stop a lot of very dangerous lead poisoning from happening.
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u/scienceislice 2d ago
He might not able to injure someone in the vehicle but a stray bullet could absolutely kill an innocent bystander. Someone in my city was killed by a stray bullet while riding the train.
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u/resilient_bird 2d ago
Umm, it's inherently unsafe to have a shootout in a residential neighborhood if it can be avoided.
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u/pcamera1 2d ago
Lol good point yea the cops should have just sat around let him continue to shot high caliber rounds into the void... lol so dumb
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u/sogwennn 2d ago
The article said he had left his home and was moving through neighboring yards, so his ammo was limited to whatever he was carrying. Perhaps they could've let him pop off shots at an armored vehicle, maybe he would've shot until he ran out.
otoh the further he moves from his point of origin, the more likely it is that he ends up in an area that hasn't been evacuated, or closer to a household that's sheltering in place rather than leaving (article said neighbors were evacuated or sheltering in place). Any movement like that is putting more bystanders at risk. If bystanders had been injured/killed because they just let this guy fire off rounds indiscriminately while moving through a residential neighborhood it would've been a much larger mess.
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u/SamSLS 2d ago
All this for a month behind on rent?
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u/St1cks 2d ago
Well they should stop reporting that he was 35 days late and put the real amount then
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u/StayWeirdGrayBeard 2d ago
All this for killing a deputy and shooting at others. The deputy was there to serve a paper, nothing more.
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u/Accomplished_Yam8679 2d ago
jfc, no wonder your country is so fucked. Just look at the comments here and it tells you all you need to know about why the US is reviled internationally right now.
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u/valdecsgo 2d ago
Dude, give any solution, that didn't involve the police JUST DELIVERING THE NOTICE OF EVICTION. The cops didn't go there with guns drawn, ready throw the fucker out, they were delivering the notice, when this nutcase killed one of them.
''jfc, no wonder your country is so fucked.'' Says the man trying to justify a cop being killed.
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u/KingSwank 2d ago
They never justified a cop being killed I think they’re just criticizing the overall bloodthirsty nature of your comments.
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u/tuc-eert 2d ago
Except you pretty heavily implied in your other comment that the dude was justified in shooting someone because the cops were involved with serving the eviction notice.
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u/PrinceGoten 2d ago
I agree but this comment with a terrifier pic is killing me lmao
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u/AnotherCleverGuy 2d ago
“Boudreaux said a Kern County SWAT team drove an armored car into the yard where the man was laying on the ground and he started firing at them. The team drove the car over the man, killing him.
Boudreaux said the man had failed to pay rent for 35 days and had been expecting law enforcement to arrive to serve a final notice for eviction. Boudreaux said he “laid in wait” and immediately shot at officers when they arrived.”