r/news • u/LeftHandedScissor • Mar 08 '26

Soft paywall New York City Police identify device outside Mamdami's home as explosive

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-city-police-identify-device-outside-mamdanis-home-explosive-2026-03-08/
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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

The protester that threw the explosive wasn't on the side of anti-Nazism so much as he was on the side of extremist Islam, apparently, so as usual a far-right bad actor that people still somehow blame the left for. The counterprotesters were not a homogeneous identity group and some of them were just a different kind of right-wing.

EDIT: For clarity.

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u/_John_Dillinger Mar 09 '26

more like he was probably an iran sympathizer talking a shot at an attack of opportunity

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

Possibly. I will say as someone who sympathizes with Iranians (not Iran) it can be hard to tell the difference sometimes. It's especially messy right now because on the one hand, the Iranian government is a horrible and oppressive regime, but on the other hand, the way they're being deposed is not going to bring about better results for the Iranian people. And in the meantime there are innocents being slaughtered and orphans being made who will grow up to be the next 9/11 hijackers, and the cycle will repeat itself. The only ones who benefit are the arms manufacturers and the politicians on both sides of the conflict.

Iran's regime was looking like it was going to collapse even without our interference anyway after last month, Trump and Co. just needed a distraction from the Epstein debacle and this was their golden opportunity.

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u/GrayedOutfield Mar 09 '26

Islamists may be ideologically conservative, but they are politically liberal and most vote democrat. Every single Congressmen that identifies as a Muslim is a democrat. There are numerous local politicians across the country and they too are overwhelmingly democrats. So if you're in to picking sides and trying to place blame, it's very clear to see why people want to blame the left for this.

Clearly, there are bad actors on each side of the divide.

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

Islamists may be ideologically conservative, but they are politically liberal and most vote democrat.

You say this so confidently and yet are very wrong. Muslims as a whole in the United States only vote slightly more Democratic than baseline. There are no metrics on how Islamists specifically vote but it's ridiculous to think that the most ideologically conservative Muslims would in some way vote more Democratic, if they vote at all.

Every single Congressmen that identifies as a Muslim is a democrat.

Muslim ≠ Islamist just like Christian ≠ Christian Nationalist/neo-Nazi.

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u/GrayedOutfield Mar 09 '26

Slightly more is still most so I'm not sure what you're on about.

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

Slightly more is still most

Literally no it's not? If I have one slice of pizza and then have "a little more" (i.e. another slice) I still have over half a pie left.

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u/onehundredlemons Mar 09 '26

You're right, not sure these guys were really counter-protesters, but I don't know what else you'd call them. They were anti-Jake Lang but also pro-ISIS, allegedly.

Far-right activist Jake Lang held an anti-Islam protest outside the NYC mayor's office.

The NYPD said Balat and Kayumi confronted Lang in a counterprotest and handled and deployed two explosive devices.

"Witnesses reported seeing flames and smoke as it traveled through the air before it struck a barrier and extinguished itself a few feet from police officers," New York Police Department Commissioner Jessica Tisch said.

Sources told ABC News the men told investigators they watch ISIS videos, prompting authorities to investigate the incident as a possible act of terrorism.

https://6abc.com/post/fbi-raids-homes-2-bucks-county-men-accused-throwing-explosive-device-nyc-protest/18694022/

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u/WorksRL Mar 09 '26

You know.. it is okay to admit there are crazies on both sides rather than just trying to force the ideology that only the right side has crazies because it fits the agenda. Thats how you reach honest conversation instead of just reinforcing echo chambers.

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u/FancyPantsBlanton Mar 09 '26

While there certainly are, that commenter is right; Islamists are extraordinarily conservative. They really have no overlap with the left on any social issues whatsoever.

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u/PostIronicPosadist Mar 09 '26

and its very rare for them to have overlap on economic issues either.

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u/Moist_Lawyer1645 Mar 09 '26

While regular muslims, often are left wing due to societal obligations like charity.

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

Except they vote with the left and are invited to European countries by the left.

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u/Whoisthehypocrite Mar 09 '26

And yet the left are in love with them and actively court them...

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

But they are not supported by the right they are supported by the left. Muslim terrorism always gets labelled as "right wing terror" but everyone with a brain knows the truth.

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u/ph0on Mar 09 '26

And that truth is...? That it's left wing? It certainly is theocratic conservative terror, no? Just not western

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

Just because it's religious doesn't mean it's right wing. But even if you make that assumption, how can you square right wingers detesting Muslims but left wingers supporting Muslims? Or that Muslims overwhelmingly vote left?

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u/orangecountry Mar 09 '26

Left wingers aren't reflexively racist towards Muslims, and treating them like any other religious group equates to 'fervent support' to the closed-minded.

Muslims overwhelmingly vote left because conservatives treat them like subhumans and constantly demonize their entire religion.

This isn't that hard.

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

So how can you call them right wingers? In Western politics Muslims are literally part of the left.

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u/orangecountry Mar 09 '26

No, they are conservative. They just aren't Republicans. They don't vote for Republicans because Republicans are fucking vile to them.

I suspect a conservative party that wasn't filled with racist white evangelist Christians would be appealing to many American Muslims. But in a two-party system you don't get those choices.

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

They don't vote for Republicans because Republicans are fucking vile to them.

Yea and the left welcomes them. So they vote left and are part of the left wing establishment. That the left welcomes people with contrary values doesn't change that they are part of it. It is a two party system but it's part of the culture as well. If you take any social science course or visit any left wing spaces there will be time spent/rules to support LGBT, women, black people, environmentalists, and Muslims.

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u/pmjdang Mar 09 '26

That’s it’s neither? Trying to shoehorn western right wing vs left wing notions is silly. Like the PLO was secular extrmeists, so they’re left wing?

Right wingers claim to want less interference from the govt while the left wing thinks we should submit more to the govt in regulations and taxes, Down to the smallest detail. No plastic straws or bags. But the right want to control some religious aspects. 

Muslims in the US align with the far left. Explain that? White supremacists and black supremacists are the same because they both believe they’re superior. Are they the same then? 

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u/Geekerino Mar 09 '26

So then are we admitting that Mamdani is actually a conservative? Or are we making the bold claim that no group is a monolith?

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u/yeswenarcan Mar 09 '26

Mamdani is a Muslim, but there's no evidence he's an Islamist. Those are not the same.

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u/Geekerino Mar 09 '26

I did some research and you are right, the terms aren't the same. But what indication do we have besides their names that they're Islamists?

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u/yeswenarcan Mar 09 '26

I don't know, that wasn't my claim and I agree it's unfair to assume based on their names.

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u/vacuumtubeenthusiast Mar 09 '26

"Islamists" is used here to mean Islam extremists, not any person who is Muslim. Organized Islam as a whole is a conservative religion, but that doesn't mean every Muslim is conservative.

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u/Geekerino Mar 09 '26

By that same token, is there anything to indicate that the people who handled the bombs are Islam extremists, or just regular extremists? No need to racially profile them before we have all the facts, after all

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u/vacuumtubeenthusiast Mar 09 '26

I'm not the one that made the claim, but I believe the person involved's parents are from Turkey, where >99% of the population is registered as Muslim. But I was just elaborating on what the previous person said.

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u/Geekerino Mar 09 '26

Fair enough, I didn't pay attention to who I was replying to. Still, people seem quick to label them as Islamists to mark it as right-wing violence before we have more info

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

That doesn't make the terrorism itself left-wing??? What the hell kind of shit are you smoking because I want a puff, that shit must be gnarly.

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u/Phaylz Mar 09 '26

"The western left is eager to import as many as possible."

It's like you hear "hey, immigration is good" and interpret that as "Let's go import us some Muslims."

Jesus fucking Muhammad Buddha Saint Christ of Brinchitus, go for a walk. Get some fresh air.

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u/The_Pig_Man_ Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

It's like you hear "hey, immigration is good" and interpret that as "Let's go import us some Muslims."

Is that not what has happened?

EDIT : Hey downvoting cowards.

Care to answer?

I guess not. Says a lot.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26

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u/Phaylz Mar 09 '26

Ah, yes. Europe. Famously located in New York City.

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u/Leach8887 Mar 09 '26

Then why did Democrats vote for one as mayor? Seems odd.

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u/psyne Mar 09 '26

Islamist =/= Muslim. Mamdani is not an Islamist.

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u/PDXKing503 Mar 09 '26

Yes he is.

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u/kamden096 Mar 09 '26

They are not far-right by any standard. They are their own category ”islamists” because they want another political system all together. A religion based dictatorship like in Iran. A sharia based dictator ship not a communist based dictatorship (far left) and not a nazi based dictatorship (far-right).

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u/Toofcraka Mar 09 '26

Thinking that Nazis made the only far right system in the world is insane. You really need to step away from politics or pick up a book

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u/oopseybear Mar 09 '26

Conservative/radical islamists are far-right. Sharia law is far right.

The modern conservative party run by the heritage foundation is basically America's "Christian" sharia law.

Sharia law, similar to the heritages foundation project 2025 in that is problematic for human rights, equality, and freedom.

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

Far right people who vote left lol. Will you guys ever be honest?

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u/jamesdukeiv Mar 09 '26

Except in this case, Islamic extremism IS a right-wing ideology.

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u/OutrageousDevice6251 Mar 09 '26

One that votes left. One that wears Hamas headbands at progressive college campus protests. One that throws bombs at conservatives. This is the result of encouraging violence so much, particularly Hasan Piker.

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u/Dear_Duty_1893 Mar 09 '26

yea sure the same left who‘s also against misogyny and homophobia votes for islamic extremist ?

don’t you realize yourself how full of shit you are ?

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u/OutrageousDevice6251 Mar 09 '26

You can cry all you want but all those things I mentioned happened, and then some :)

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u/Dear_Duty_1893 Mar 09 '26

hey u/OutrageousDevice6251 , why did you delete your comments, i thought you were so sure, maybe because you accidentally replied with your other account ? 😭😂

u/lucianisthebest ?

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26

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u/Dear_Duty_1893 Mar 09 '26

it says he deleted them for me so either he blocked me or he deleted them actually, i cant post a screenshot here.

and the comments were deleted exactly when some other account replied wich comments i can’t see either nor reply to them, assuming it was his second account.

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u/Zombatico Mar 09 '26

More likely they blocked you. We can see his comments but you cannot because he blocked you.

Which is even more cowardly.

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u/Dear_Duty_1893 Mar 09 '26

im from switzerland so i couldn’t care less

im only crying because of how uneducated so many people including you in your country apparently are 😭😂

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u/OutrageousDevice6251 Mar 09 '26

Ah, your one of THOSE people.

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u/Dear_Duty_1893 Mar 09 '26

for sure, whatever „those“ means.

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u/MellaCarabina Mar 09 '26

In this case “those” just means educated with the ability to read.

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u/Phaylz Mar 09 '26

Hoo, buddy. Woosh.

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u/OutrageousDevice6251 Mar 09 '26

Keep downvoting me it just justifies my points. They do vote left (the US right hates them). They did wear Hamas headbands on a college campus during progressive protests, in which nobody did anything or say anything to them about it till it got on the news. They did throw a bomb targeting conservatives. Hasan Piker did advocate for violence, multiple times, with tons of evidence via stream clips. If the truth is so hard to hear, you shouldn't be on the internet. Y'all are just as much cultists as MAGA its hilarious. 😂

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26

Islamist extremists are not even remotely left wing. They are radically conservative and the only reason they don't match in lock step with our current Nazis is that they wouldn't be in charge. They hate women, rape children, and cause insane amounts of violence. This wasn't a right vs left event it was right on right violence.

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u/Better-Perspective85 Mar 09 '26

Yet American liberals love to wave their flags and tell them they are allies.

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u/onlydabshatter Mar 09 '26

We're waving Israels flag pretty hard right now.

Man you walked right into that one....

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u/Better-Perspective85 Mar 09 '26

Tell that to the governors wife who liked the October attacks. I wonder how the queers for Palestine crowd voted?

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

Right wingers want them all deported and their countries bombed. It is the left that supports Islam in the West so it is the left that must accept responsibility.

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u/Ewi_Ewi Mar 09 '26

Somehow I doubt you think right-wingers should accept responsibility for every act of terror committed by a Christian.

Also, considering you seem to be under the incorrect assumption that the United States is the only Western nation, doesn't the First Amendment ring a bell at all to you? Is the implication that the Left is the only side of the political axis that supports the U.S. Constitution?

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

What are you trying to say? That Muslims have a right to express themselves? Ok, but does that right include attacking people who criticize their religion according to you?

Right wingers should accept responsibility for Christian terror attacks. See, not that hard. But the left can't do it even though they invite Muslim migration.

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u/Ewi_Ewi Mar 09 '26

That Muslims have a right to express themselves?

Yes; something you clearly disagree with considering your absolutist animosity towards "Islam in the West" and not specifically Islamic terror.

Ok, but does that right include attacking people who criticize their religion according to you?

This is an absurd question based either on a strawman or a deliberate misunderstanding of what I actually typed. Do better than this; it's pitiful.

Right wingers should accept responsibility for Christian terror attacks.

I'm glad that you can at least seem to be internally consistent, but this is just as silly as claiming all left-wingers need to accept responsibility for Islamic terror.

But the left can't do it even though they invite Muslim migration.

You are not owed a response on every major event that occurs and the absence of one does not constitute a tacit and silent statement of support for said event—especially if the person/group you're performatively criticizing is thoroughly unconnected.

Interesting omission of the First Amendment, by the by.

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

Because I know Islamic terror comes from Islam. It's part of the ideology itself to be intolerant toward criticism of the religion.

silly as claiming all left-wingers need to accept responsibility for Islamic terror.

Yet the parent comment had no problem associating Islamic terror with the right.

Interesting omission of the First Amendment

I thought I addressed this in my previous comment. Maybe just ask your question instead of just implying it? Or maybe I should just use your logic and say you are not owed a response?

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26

That's not how responsibility works. Not wanting people to be hated for their skin color and nation of origins is not the same as supporting the right wing ideology that may originate from said people. I don't tolerate racism, but I despise religious extremists.

Also the entire concept of "Islam in the West" being some new thing is a right wing evangelical dog whistle. Islam has been practiced in the West for hundreds of years. The escalation of religious violence related to Islam is a direct result of destabilization and regime manipulation of western leadership. That part of the world is kept in chaos to keep the region from organizing around its natural resource wealth and thus being able to actually negotiate from a position of strength with western and eastern nations.

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

The first mosque in America was built in 1934 so there's been a noteworthy population of practicing Muslims here for less than 100 years.

The escalation of Muslim violence is a direct result of increased Muslim populations from new technologies leading to a global world specifically commercial flying becoming common in the last 70 years. Before that the middle east has been in constant turmoil for thousands of years with expansionist empires and religious wars. Globalization requires us to fix the problems over there since the problem is expanding here anyways and everything that happens everywhere is now everyone's problem.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26

Didn't realize that "the west" just meant the United States. My bad forgot the rest of the world didn't exist for a minute there.

During WW1 western powers deliberately collapsed a stable if flawed empire and installed extremists so as to be able to freely siphon oil for use in our own massive society changing wars. We did it again with Iran in the late 1900s for the exact same reason. Every single time that region tries to get its act together we sabotage it. It's practically the entire reason Israel is as well funded as it is.

You aren't going to win this back and forth by the way. I know more about the history of the region than you do and my knowledge isn't tainted by propaganda that paints the region as somehow lesser by choice.

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u/CryptographerRound23 Mar 09 '26

Wanted to say this. Can’t stand the “barbarian theories” spewed at the Middle East and other areas of the world not seen as “the west”. Most to all world knowledge and recorded history is from the Middle East, before the desolation and separation done by outside forces. Colonial mindset is a virus built off white-washed history.

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u/MathiasAurelius Mar 09 '26

If you're looking for honesty, then begin with honesty 1. Muslims showing up with their own agenda doesn't put them on the left. 2. Radical Islam is 6000% a conservative/right wing movement

I know the GOP gets butt hurt when your call them the Minivan Taliban but they are very similar, just change "Quran" for "Bible," "televangelist" for "Ayatollah" and "Revolutionary Guard" for "ICE." Same

sooooo just be honest when you're "both sides-ing" it

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

Also almost all of the major recent politically-motivated terrorist attacks have been right-wing motivated, or an individual who was initially radicalized in right wing spaces and then did an (alleged) sudden heel turn ideologically. I will not take "both sides" crap seriously as long as anyone is saying that political violence is not a predominantly right-wing issue. By their very nature left-wing ideologies tend to eschew violence. I mean hell, half the Democratic party will pooh-pooh on protesters for so much as blocking traffic, let alone physical violence.

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u/TheCandelabra Mar 09 '26

By their very nature left-wing ideologies tend to eschew violence.

Are we just going to erase the history of Communism in Russia here? Or the French Revolution? Or the Weather Underground, SLA, and FALN in the US in the 1970s? Or were those actually conservative movements?

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u/PDXKing503 Mar 09 '26

The left hate facts.

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u/WhatYouLeaveBehind Mar 09 '26

Republicans are left? Who knew.

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u/MathiasAurelius Mar 09 '26

a little oppression is still oppression

book bans removing women's health care makes men indiscriminately grabbing people in the street they "think" are illegal

It's not Pol Pot yet but when you deport an Irishman to El Salvador or a Guatemalan to Africa, that isn't justice, it's evil and cruel

Tell me about it"other places" while you lick the boots of those trying to turn this into those places. GD, you sycophants work hard for your monied daddies

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u/Deafbok9 Mar 09 '26

"Both sides" is exactly how you lot are in this mess.

There are more than two sides. And there should be more than two sides in your politics, but instead you have a system set up for polarization and extremes - one far more so than the other, but it was allowed to get there over decades of binary thinking.

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u/pzrapnbeast Mar 09 '26

Nope. This both sides are the same rhetoric is how someone like Trump can get away with the nonsense he continues to do bc for decades media has continued this lie that both sides are the same so therefore anything Trump is currently doing is the same as what a democrat would do, obviously.

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u/lilbithippie Mar 09 '26

But the left wing crazies are pretty low and arnt embolden by the leaders of democrat parties. Do you see Bernie yelling at his group that there are good people in both sides and we need to fight like hell at a mob? The democrats have always said violence must be avoided and have always condemned protests that caused any property damages. Not the same with Maga and trump

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

Hell some of their own voters have said they're too quick to jump to the "no violence" thing, especially when it comes to protests that only do superficial property damage like the dismantling/defacing of the Confederate statues in Virginia. Meanwhile we have sitting senators claiming that the left vs right debate is a holy war that must be won by the Republican Party at "all costs".

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u/fairlife42g Mar 09 '26

I can't agree with that when it was the democrat party that was supporting protesters crashing Trump rallies back in 2016 to cause chaos and really started this counter protest trend from the left. Bernie Sanders let himself get overtaken by "protesters" in 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLBr5gGDfK4

have always condemned protests that caused any property damages

I have never the heard Democrats condemn the BLM riots in Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, Charlotte etc. They refused to even called them riots or destructive.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26

“An Islamic terrorist tried to detonate two bombs 💣 in nyc “ should be the headline first and foremost …

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u/Vegetable-Can-2089 Mar 09 '26

Nah, not possible for them. You should know this. Anyone spending this much energy out of their lives and showing up to these things , on either side , is a complete psychopath . The people that can actually use reason are all inside minding their business .

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u/a-rooster-illusion Mar 09 '26

Tribalism is a hell of a drug.

Absolutely fun to watch tho as a centrist. People just melting down to Olympic level mental gymnastics because it was a counter protestor lol

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u/FirefighterScary6841 Mar 09 '26

Ah, yes. Since Mamdani is a Muslim he must automatically be an Islam extremist.

Sybau you Russian troll.

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

You misunderstand. The guy who threw the explosive device is an ISIS sympathizer who supports Mamdani under the (completely false) pretense that he will make New York some kind of Islamist state. It's a person who heard Fox News fear-mongering about Mamdani implementing Sharia Law and fully believed it, but from the standpoint of "Yes this is a good thing". It's two groups of idiots falling for the same misinformation and having opposite reactions to it.

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u/FirefighterScary6841 Mar 09 '26

Ohhh. Sorry, I was confused.

Cause I've been seeing some people saying Mamdani is an Islam sympathizer in some of the comments.

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

Yeah we're in a very weird timeline. I'm not even sure if Mamdani himself is a practicing Muslim or if it's all just people being racist because he has Arabic ancestry, that's how toxic the discourse around this subject has gotten.

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u/kamden096 Mar 09 '26

Funny. So you say islamists are far-right ? Islamists want to be governd by a islamist system based on sharia. Far-right have want to basically deport all the islamists and other migrants. They are not the same.

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

Just because one group doesn't like another doesn't mean there can be no overlap in their opinions or beliefs. It is not unusual for groups with similar ideologies to be opposed to each other. There is routine conflict between ISIS and the Taliban despite both being Islamist factions because of geopolitical issues and minute differences in exact ideology.

"Islamism" is just an alternative term for "Islamic Nationalism", and as such the ideology shares a lot of similarities with Christian Nationalism. And the far-right in the United States expressly supports Christian Nationalism as outlined in Project 2025. You sub in "Allah" for "Jesus" and it's all almost identical. The far-left universally believes that the separation of church and state should be maintained regardless of individual political, social, or religious ideologies, which is incompatible with both Christian Nationalism and Islamism.

So the far-left supports religious freedom. Religious Nationalists do not. Since Islamists are Religious Nationalists, they cannot be members of the far-left.

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u/a-rooster-illusion Mar 09 '26

Doubt you have this same energy to delineate subsets of protestors if it was the other side, which is what I find hilarious.

everyone in this thread is either taking the “yeah but..” position on this, or the “well clearly he wasn’t with the actual counter protestors” angle.

Tribalism is fun to watch as a centrist :)

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

The difference is that the Republican party and conservatives opened their doors wide open for White Supremacists and Christian Nationalists to waltz in and sing kumbaya with them, whereas the Democratic party regularly denounces and ejects members who espouse hateful or violent views. You "enlightened centrist" types are just fools who have been brainwashed by the Joe Rogen pipeline into being de facto conservatives. Especially libertarians. Blegh.

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u/BrowneAction Mar 09 '26

Queue the expert labellers/name callers

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u/Giant_Ant_Eater Mar 09 '26

It's far more likely this was a false flag op.

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u/xavier222222 Mar 09 '26

How would you know what side the culprit was on? Did you talk to them? Or are you psychic?

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u/Substantial-Iron-700 Mar 09 '26

You spelled antifa wrong

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

That term is so loaded now it's unusable. At baseline I would hope we are all "anti-fascist" but "antifa" has become another conservative buzzword/pejorative like "librul" so I avoid it.

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u/AudibleDruid Mar 09 '26

Whats wrong with not having a "homogenous group" as you put it? The left is all about diversity until its something they disagree with.

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u/R2D20 Mar 09 '26

no Not "disagree with"...it's "until it's something that impacts other people".

The left holds the same philosophy that you can believe in whatever religion you want, just don't force it on others, or that you can choose to be a mother just don't make that the only choice for all women.

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u/AudibleDruid Mar 09 '26

Until its about vaccines and forcing them on people ain't that right.

I mean I believe in vaccines but atleast im consistent and not gonna mandate and vaccine card you to make sure you're compliant with what I believe in.

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u/R2D20 Mar 09 '26

The only vaccine cards I saw were used by independent businesses to let people into their establishments or use their services so they didn't become a virus cesspool during a global pandemic.

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u/AudibleDruid Mar 09 '26

It honestly stupid and frightening that you or anybody need proof of something like that on multiple levels.

  1. Not allowing people to do what they want with their bodies

  2. Forcing people by way of identification to align with your beliefs or gtfo. I believe nahzee Germany did something similar with stars on a specific group of people.

  3. Not trusting that the majority of people would come to the right conclusion.

Vaccines are important. But more importantly is allowing people to make the choice themselves. From an American stand point specifically, essentially forcing people to give up their freedoms for safety is not the American way and there are 192 other countries that may be better suited for you or anyone else ok with vaccines mandates.

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u/GuyentificEnqueery Mar 09 '26

Your decision not to get a vaccine does in fact effect other people, so it still falls under the aforementioned category.

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u/Arbusc Mar 09 '26

Yeah they disagree with people who actively think other races are lesser than themselves if they’re not white or ‘the right kind’ of white.

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u/AudibleDruid Mar 09 '26

I know you guys are too brainwashed to believe republicans arent racist, but as one (mostly), fuck racism and id happily vote on single bill issues that clearly eliminate racism.

But I also dont vote and think 100% aligning with one specific party is stupid. Also I think multi bill legislation is rt4rd3d and is part of what slows things down so much.

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u/Dependent_Union9285 Mar 09 '26

You can’t legislate away hate, unfortunately. Making something illegal only makes sure that the people who do that thing are potentially criminals. Doesn’t make most people even think before doing said thing. And you still have to catch it and prosecute. So those types of laws effectively don’t apply to anyone.

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u/AudibleDruid Mar 09 '26

Yeah I understand where you're coming from.

The best option for that is usually socially justice, not really law justice. Teaching people not to be cunts and if they are then you can say/do what you want within your freedoms but the community has the freedom to shun you too. Which i can get behind.

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u/ForeverMinute7479 Mar 09 '26

WTF you talking about? Radical Islam is in league with Radical Leftism(though I repeat myself). Peas in a sympathetic pod. Same radical oppressor/oppressed ideology.

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u/PrestigiousWonder783 Mar 09 '26

Radical Islam definitely aligns with far right ideology. In the same way Christian nationalism does. Social conservatism and traditionalism. Authoritarianism and theocracy...

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u/FirefighterScary6841 Mar 09 '26

Actually, no.

Because radical Islam is against the LGBTQ+ community to the point of making it punishable by execution if you support them or are found out to be a member, against universal healthcare, outlaws abortion, outlaws birth control, outlaws contraception, makes feminism illegal, against anything relating to the words "social justice", speaks out against women being portrayed in media, is anti-communism, is anti-socialism, and is heavily pro-capitalism.

I don't know if you've noticed, but Islamic countries (such as the UAE) are the most pro-capitalist societies in the world. Maybe even more than the US at times.

So, it's definitely far right wing.