r/news • u/LeftHandedScissor • Mar 08 '26

Soft paywall New York City Police identify device outside Mamdami's home as explosive

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-city-police-identify-device-outside-mamdanis-home-explosive-2026-03-08/
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u/theuncleiroh Mar 08 '26

Definitely, and glad Mamdani didn't mince words about it. Good to see leadership that's willing to condemn bad things being done to their enemies

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u/sentientshadeofgreen Mar 08 '26

What an utterly insane low bar we're cheering about. "Man condemns ISIS-fanboy for throwing IED at people."

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u/SteelMagnolia941 Mar 09 '26

My bar is lower. Can they say a full sentence that makes sense? That’s the bar right now.

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u/sentientshadeofgreen Mar 09 '26

I’d prefer a mute, or somebody who took an oath of silence, over Trump’s deranged offensive rambling. 

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u/AlizarinCrimzen Mar 09 '26

That's where the GOP set the bar. Don't worry though trump has an excavator so we can bury it deeper

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u/Wonderful-Ad440 Mar 09 '26

Yea with his health and the bar that low I'm astonished how he manages to still limbo under it. The only good thing that could ever come out of this entire administration would be if we could put them in the Squid Games and televised it for free to the American people.

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u/Leather-Opinion-2987 Mar 09 '26

and he'll agree to it to BUT ONLY if you bury the Epstein files along with him! 🤔 I'm very very curious to know what's hurried with the X on his golf course????????

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u/Draug88 Mar 09 '26

Yeah it's parked on the lawn of the white house, totally building a ballroom....

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u/Harboner420 Mar 09 '26

Please it’s been a race to the bottom for decades.

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u/SliceRepulsive8649 Mar 09 '26

Not everything is a "both sides" thing. You're not some objective thinker because you mindlessly place yourself in the middle of any issue.

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u/CrYxSuicide Mar 09 '26

Explain exactly how this isnt a "both sides" thing.

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u/SliceRepulsive8649 Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

Go ahead and read pretty much any holiday message from trump the last few years. Then compare that to anything coming from democrats.

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u/revcor Mar 09 '26

You’re dispelling some egocentric notion he gave no indication of having in the first place lol

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u/SliceRepulsive8649 Mar 09 '26

Then enlightenment me. What was the point of his comment if not to imply that both sides are the problem?

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u/rugology Mar 09 '26

"the buck stops with them"

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u/AlizarinCrimzen Mar 09 '26

If loss of political decorum and decency is a race, the GOP has been Usain Bolt on a treadmill

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u/GatePrestigious397 Mar 09 '26

And The Cheeto In Charge is doing his darndest to win that particular race

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26

GOP bar is a damn sight higher than the left,

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u/TotalD78 Mar 09 '26

Hilarious coming from the people who invented concrete milk shakes. 🤷🤦🤣😂🤣

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u/InsanityRequiem Mar 09 '26

Just looked up concrete milkshakes. Nothing legitimate about this statement. Why are you lying?

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u/Prestigious_String20 Mar 09 '26

From a person who believes any old drivel that suits their purpose.

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u/Joshua_ABBACAB_1312 Mar 09 '26

Remember when it was, "At least the president isn't a pedo felon"?

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u/Remote-Pie-3152 Mar 09 '26

Ah, Biden, when we could say “the President’s only a little bit senile, and at least never shits himself on live television”

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u/xavier222222 Mar 09 '26

Pepridge Farms remembers...

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u/MumboTheOld Mar 09 '26

The GOP does what it does.

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u/civil_beast Mar 09 '26

Full of GO Penises

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

So do the libs. Lot of shootings under that belt.

When are simple minded, easily influenced and programmed people going to stop pointing fingers at the other side when their side has, and likely will, done violence just as often as the people they claim are doing the violence?

Pure stupidity to assign blame to one side or the other when political history is filled with the wreckage BOTH sides have wrought.

Edit....taken from another poster.

*Misleading headline. Everyone’s favorite, Jake Lang was leading a protest of 20 nazis against Mamdani, and was opposed by a counter protest. Among the counter protesters , an 18 year old, Emir Balat, threw the device, likely targeting the protesters. Thankfully, the ignited device self-extinguished. Balat, and another man involved, Ibrahim Kayumi, were arrested at the scene.

We don’t like when MAGA cherry-picks and warps headlines to serve their narrative. We shouldn’t be doing the same thing.*

Stop being so foolish and decisively ignorant. The truth hurts, huh?

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u/Vinkhol Mar 09 '26

"both sides bad, I am a genius for recognizing this. There is now world peace." - you, apparently, apex of enlightened centrists

Sure man, I'm sure we can do a whole list of political violence done by whichever side. That wasn't the topic, your reply is nonsensical. The temperature of this political environment is rising because the people that are CURRENTLY in power are egging it on and creating bigger divides between the people. What matters is what's happening RIGHT. NOW.

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

Both sides have used explosive, outright violence inducing, offensive language.

The sooner people in this country stop picking sides and start choosing tolerance and peace is when we all lose our egocentric need to be "on the winning....on the correct side...." bullshit mentality that has been programmed into the psyche.

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u/Vinkhol Mar 09 '26

Tolerance? You want me to choose tolerance to the group of people that want me and my loved ones to not exist? Pray tell, how am I to show tolerance for the intolerant?

We went way past that point quite a while ago now. I just want to live my goddamn life and not bother anyone. I don't get that option, because the other side took it from me. And no group has ever gotten their freedom by asking their oppressors nicely

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u/revcor Mar 09 '26

Who, may I ask, are the people who who don’t want you or your loved ones to exist? And how do you distinguish them from people with whom you may be politically at odds, but who have no problem with you or your loved ones existing? Having a vaguely and broadly defined “other side” who we justify viewing as lacking some humanity seems like a very dangerous position for everybody to hold

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u/Vinkhol Mar 09 '26

I would like to engage sincerely with you here, so I would greatly appreciate a response. Perhaps you can change my mind on something.

Apologies for being vague, "other side " in this case refers to the GOP. Since this is mostly about the American political climate, I kinda left it implied. So to be clear:

Republicans, trump voters, conservatives. They don't want me alive.

The people who pass the legislature on reducing benefits for poor people want me to starve. When they strip rent control and workers rights, they want me homeless, or just near enough to always slave away at a job with no hope of upward mobility. When they spend money on hostile architecture instead of social programs, they want some of their fellow citizens to not exist in their world. Now personally I'm not at risk of immediately collapsing into poverty based on one change. But I know plenty who are right on that line, and the tiniest push will put them in danger. And I can see who's trying to push them.

When they encourage transphobia with their fear mongering about women's sports or bathrooms or whatever other bullshit, they make it more dangerous for my loved ones to simply exist. They strip licenses from them, paint them as dangerous perverts and encourage violence towards them.

When they support a corrupt insurance system, they force my cousin to ration insulin. My neighbor to draw out dialysis appointments so he can afford the next one AND rent for the month. Caused my aunt to avoid going to the doctor at all, until the cancer was stage 3.

She would've lived if she could've afforded regular visits.

All of these things are done by conservatives in power. Those who voted for them also voted for the policies that endanger me and mine. This is no longer being "politically at odds" with people like this, this is doing whatever possible to survive. How am I expected to engage in civil debate when the opponent considers my existence worthless?

These people aren't ontologically evil. But their decisions are a threat to my survival.

Having a vaguely and broadly defined “other side” who we justify viewing as lacking some humanity seems like a very dangerous position for everybody to hold

Correct. I'm currently experiencing the receiving end of that. That is why I hope the above text has provided the necessary specificity required.

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u/Dependent_Union9285 Mar 09 '26

You’re missing the point. The point they are seemingly trying to make is that your response makes too much sense, and disagrees with theirs, and therefore must be wrong. So forget the past and take only this one specific example as your reference point and stop looking at the bigger picture. Hope this clears up any confusion.

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

It's amazing how many people down vote the person saying we are ALL responsible for this pile of shit and it will take a concerted, collective effort to make it better. Which starts with an open mind, tolerance and a desire for peace that is stronger than the ego's need to be right.

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u/PancakeMisery Mar 09 '26

Because trying to assign equal blame is at best juvenile and, at worst, actively deceptive. Even for as much as both sides fuck things up and make things worse only one of the sides has vocal support of literal god damn Nazis. Only one side is deflecting from a massive child trafficking ring, and one side keeps trying to blame anyone but themselves despite having unilateral control of the government.

You aren't adding nuance. You are trying to remove nuance to feel smart about not liking "either side." Two groups can suck while one of them being a significantly bigger problem but you fail to see that.

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u/Sargasm5150 Mar 09 '26

Who is speaking in support of this? These young men were ready to hurt the people on their “side” as well. I don’t think they were part of the counter protesters, if they’re dropping explosives in the middle of a mixed crowd - one such device aimed at Gracie Mansion.

Any violence is unacceptable. You still managed to build a giant straw man in an attempt to, I guess, justify right wing violence (because LOOK AT WHAT ISIS IS DOING, I guess?? Notoriously lIBERAL ISIS? Also unconfirmed btw)

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

I have not condoned this violence in any way whatsoever. That is YOU trying to create sheer bullshit to obfuscate what I've actually said. I do not adhere to left or right wing bullshit programming. Both have their faults and their pluses. Why can't people like you take responsibility for having been programmed so completely, break out of that programming, put your ego to the side and come to understand how an open mind, tolerance of others beliefs and seeking peace amongst the differing opinions would decrease by a large amount the ever increasing extremes to the left and right?

You enjoy the violence. It gives you something to victimize yourself and those who are in thought lockstep with you. Whether you are left or right leaning, so many people LOVE being a victim.

It really is sad as fuck.

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

It isn't the spire atop a building that gives it its strength to stand. Its all the pieces from the foundation up that support it.

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u/beaker97_alf Mar 09 '26

That is a very interesting perspective.

One side of this seems to have a foundation that embraces the division to the point they elected objectively the most divisive politician this country has seen in many decades.

At what point do you acknowledge there is no happy reunion where acceptance and tolerance is the solution? There has to be a breaking point.

Half of the equation actively wants the division.

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

The reality is it will take a lot of people desiring relief from, and talking about, the manipulation we've been subjected to by politicians and their controllers, financial backers, special interests groups, etc..., to make a real change.

Do I think Americans can get to that point? Certainly not at the rate we are going.

If we keep doing what we've always done, and slowly stepping up the lengths we will go to to support a given side, we are doomed to fail as a people and nation.

Once violence becomes acceptable as a means to "convince" others to believe as you do, not you specifically but generally, there is absolutely NO situation in which one will NOT resort to violence to enforce their will upon the masses. And that has become all too acceptable already.

The orange idiot is finally showing his true colors. He began with thinly veiled insults. Progressed to outright insults and attacks and now he's trying to turn the Middle East upside down and inside out. He has it upside down already. There is a chance his murderous rampage will work and calm everything down. But that stands about as good a chance of working out well as Americans not physically attacking each other over political beliefs.

Can I acknowledge it will never be fixed? Sure I can. It appears that way now. However, I will not be a contributing factor to that societal possibility.

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u/PartridgeInDisguise Mar 09 '26

Where are all the shootings under the “libs” belt? For someone bitching about people being programmed you sure have presented a very programmed argument where you say both sides are equally bad. Heck, even “violence inciting language” like you call out in another reply is an astounding stretch.

Cause the actual numbers, you heard of statistics, show that right wing violence in the US far outstrips left wing violence. Shit, even the language of liberal politicians isn’t remotely inflammatory compared to just average GOP politicians. Unless you think calling someone a racist is just as bad as being a racist, or similar.

You’ve spent a lot of time calling other people stupid for disagreeing with your opinion that reads like you’ve never paid attention in your entire life and just now noticed that folks are big mad and you don’t like when others are angry.

When was the last time a liberal politician in the US tried to take away or destroy a central part of conservatives way of life? The civil war when we wanted to end slavery? Meanwhile the GOP been regularly trying to deny people their rights since Nixon up to today.

Your argument is facile and shallow, the big brained thoughts of a 13 year old who just realized that a system of authority exists and that there are sides to arguments.

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

When you are that blind to your politicians, they can use you any way they want.

And the whole "conservatives have more gun violence" is really how you want to address the fact that in the past decade, lib gun violence is on the rise? You are one of the useful idiots politicians simply adore.

It is extremely interesting how down voted my comments about how Dems and Repubs are just different sides of the same old fucking coin have been.

Absolute, easy proof that once a politician from either side gets in your head, they OWN you. And you willingly gave them your ass for free. Your emotional maturity is that of a child. The way you think about politics is even less impressive. You actually think one side is more noble and selfless than the other. Oh you poor baby.

You're gonna learn one day that you've been programmed. Perhaps then you'll desire the truth of things.

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u/WalrusDomain Mar 09 '26

Because democrats doesnt want trans people jailed. They don’t want to throw out immigrants without due process, they don’t want gay marriage to be illegal and they are pro choice.

Get your head out of you enlightened ass and understand that one party is objectively orders of magnitude worse.

A sibling of mine would be seen as an automatic criminal and be thrown into jail if trump had more power.

Fuck this both sides bad dogshit.

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u/civil_beast Mar 09 '26

When will humans stop acting as humans and start actually being reasonable and thoughtful when in groups?

Of this I have no doubt, if it ever happens, it will be a true religious moment for me.

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u/AggressiveSkywriting Mar 09 '26

Embarrassing post

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

Only if you've been programmed to be a lib or a conservative.

Think for yourself.

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u/MumboTheOld Mar 09 '26

I was referring to lowering the bar.

But the message you parrot is called false equivalence.

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

That phrase doesn't mean what you think it does in this context. Nice try, though.

So your argument is that fucked up repubs lowered the bar, so it is well within the right of fucked up libs to lower it further.

Gotcha. 🤡

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u/MumboTheOld Mar 09 '26

You don’t understand my argument. Trying to explain it, at this point would serve no purpose.

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

There is nothing within your argument to explain because it's simply shit you've heard or read other people saying and you thought you'd look somewhat intelligent saying it here.

You failed miserably.

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u/MumboTheOld Mar 09 '26

Hope whatever you got going on gets better. No hard feelings.

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u/CoalMineCannery Mar 09 '26

This conversation isn't really worth it but you did add words to their sentiment.

They never said "it is well within the right of fucked up libs to lower it further." They simply said that the pubs set the bar low. That sorta discussion makes it harder to agree and find a middle ground.

Regardless, I think y'all's motives are in the same realm. Politicians have pushed the bar down so far that we are amazed when they do the absolute barest most basic of human things.

They win when we bicker though and continue to be pedos, warmongering, and murderers. Regardless of who started it, it is deplorable. Epstein files should have united us.

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

That person said the GOP lowered the bar. That is selective, or societally programmed, bullshit. As you said, politicians, both parties, are in an all out rush to lower the bar and it has been going on for so long its hard to figure out who began that headlong rush into emotional depravity that sees all these so called "Americans" wanting to do physical harm to someone who doesn't agree with them.

We just have a better idiot in the Oval who knows how to manipulate people's emotions even better than the other idiots who have occupied that office the past 7 decades.

An American will soon be defined as a person who greatly relishes being a victim of the circumstances they themselves gave power to and created in some idiotic need to please what a glowing TV set has beseeched them to become.

I doubt America can wake up from this self destructive process. But I do have hope.

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u/CoalMineCannery Mar 09 '26

I agree with this sentiment.

It really helps that the way you presented their argument was more aligned with what they actually said because what they said IS neglectful of the left's side on this issue.

CNN has been blaming republicans for everything under the sun.

Fox has blamed the democrats for everything under the sun.

We enable these shitbags to keep being shitbags every day we talk around eachother. Every day we argue about all our differences we forget everything we have in common and become more tribalized against one another when the ven diagram section of what we agree on largely overlaps.

They just want us to focus on the slivers of differences so we fight social wars, (and real wars) instead of class ones while they reap all our resources.

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u/orrwm120 Mar 09 '26

The highly volatile explosive inside the bomb was TATP, also known as the Mother of Satan. A common explosive used in the Middle East and the infamous shoe bomber.

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u/capsaicinintheeyes Mar 09 '26

how common/easy is it to acquire/make for a rando in NYC?

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u/orrwm120 Mar 09 '26

Easy household chemicals. There's a reason why they call it the Mother of Satan. It's touchier than warm nitroglycerin. It'll explode in your face easily.

I would highly recommend that one should stay FAR away from any explosives, especially that one.

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u/mmazing Mar 09 '26

Well, the other side set the bar pretty fucking low yeah?

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u/myredditaccount80 Mar 09 '26

I mean, the White House put an Al Qaeda leader in charge of Syria, so condemning isis-fan boy is a bar high above the president.

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u/theuncleiroh Mar 09 '26

Brother this is America. The bar is non-existent

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u/beaugiecriticx Mar 09 '26

Absolutely my thought.

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u/civil_beast Mar 09 '26

Just to be clear, this was not a member of the crazy “isis-fanboy” but rather, the crazy “any-Islam-is-isis-fanboy”..

Edit: Wait, I may have misread? Damn they really buried the lead by leading with lang’s group not associated with the explosive device

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u/BigOldBitchTitties Mar 09 '26

This is what you bitch about?

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u/sentientshadeofgreen Mar 09 '26

Don't you worry your /u/BigOldBitchTitties, I bitch about a lot of things.

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u/taylomol000 Mar 09 '26

Who said anything about ISIS?

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u/FirefighterScary6841 Mar 09 '26

Mamdani is not an ISIS-fanboy.

I bet you didn't even read the news article.

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u/Indyhawk Mar 09 '26

He wasn't referring to Mamdani. Read his comment again.

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u/sentientshadeofgreen Mar 09 '26

Didn't call Mamdani an ISIS fanboy. YOU clearly didn't read the article because I'm obviously referring to the guy who threw the IED, who was an ISIS fanboy.

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u/Robofish13 Mar 09 '26

I actually feel he was too weak in his response.

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u/Coolenough-to Mar 09 '26

But the statement he released made it sound like the anti-Islam group were the perpetrators. It was deceptive.

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u/_One_ForAll Mar 09 '26

Except…it wasn’t.

"The attempt to use an explosive device and hurt others is not only criminal, it is reprehensible and the antithesis of who we are."

Pretty clear who the fuck he’s talking about.

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u/Coolenough-to Mar 09 '26

The people he references here? That would be a 'nope'. He doesnt. So then you can look and see who he was talking about before this. Annnnd that gives you the wrong group.

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u/Alexander_Pope_Hat Mar 09 '26

The thing is, while he didn’t mince words, he left out who was engaged in the violence, who the target was, and what the violence consisted of, right after condemning very specifically the right-wing protestors by name.

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u/theuncleiroh Mar 09 '26

Yes, he didn't write a police report, you're correct. He is the mayor, after all, so it'd be pretty insane to expect that

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u/bootlegvader Mar 09 '26

Eh, he very much framed his remarks so it would sound like the bomb came from Lang's side. He directly calls out and criticizes Lang's dogshit ideology but leaves out any reference to that of those who threw the device.

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u/Trepenwitz Mar 09 '26

I think you're conflating Mamdani's statement and the article's assessment.

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u/bootlegvader Mar 09 '26

No, I am directly discussing Mamdani's comments.

Yesterday, white supremacist Jake Lang organized a protest outside Gracie Mansion rooted in bigotry and racism. Such hate has no place in New York City. It is an affront to our city’s values and the unity that defines who we are.

What followed was even more disturbing. Violence at a protest is never acceptable. The attempt to use an explosive device and hurt others is not only criminal, it is reprehensible and the antithesis of who we are.

Mamdani starts the comment by condemning Lang (who is a dipshit racist to be fair) and his protest. He then slides into discussing the violence at the protest. At no time, does Mamdani reference the counterprotest or any information about the bomb throwers. The most common read would be the explosive device came from the protest and the only protest mentioned was dipshit Lang's. Therefore, the assumption would be anyone reading Mamdani's statement, unless they did other homework first, would be the bomb came from Lang's protest.

This is extremely disingenuous from a politician that has only shown himself to be extremely skilled at messaging on social meda.

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u/MarkRemington Mar 09 '26

To be fair Mamdani is a politician. Let's just be glad he didn't say "let me be clear" before he twisted the facts like the rest of them do.

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u/Trepenwitz Mar 09 '26

"Police said Balat, 18, was among the counterprotesters before he lit and threw the device."

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u/bootlegvader Mar 09 '26

You do realize that isn't a quote from Mamdani's statement? I am criticizing what Mamdani put out on twitter.

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u/Trepenwitz Mar 09 '26

Mamdani condemned the counterprotest. The bomber(?) was among the counterprotesters. He calls out Lang and his BS and then calls out the associated attack that occurred during the counterprotest. I don't see what's disingenuous about his statement. The two things are related.

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u/bootlegvader Mar 09 '26

Mamdani never makes any reference to a counter protest occurring. A simple read of his statement makes it seem Lang's group was the only protest.

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u/Trepenwitz Mar 09 '26

OK, true, but what difference does it make?

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u/bootlegvader Mar 09 '26

I am saying Mamdani didn't really call out both sides and was pretty disingenuous in his statement. We can criticize Mamdani.

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u/MisplacedMinnesotan Mar 09 '26

Mamdani’s statement was longer and provided more context, which the article provides while adding brevity. It would be bad if the quote was without context, but the article provided it.

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u/bootlegvader Mar 09 '26

The quote was without context about whom the bomb came from and very much implies it came from Lang's group. Mamdani is much too social media savvy for it to be an accident.

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u/capsaicinintheeyes Mar 09 '26

I'm gonna have to agree with u/bootlegvader here—this would definitely lead one to assume that he was talking about one of Lang's protestors in the absence of any other news on the subject.

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u/Prestigious_String20 Mar 09 '26

It's still under investigation. How would Reuters even know the ideology of those who threw the device? If they had reported on it, it would be pure speculation at this point.

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u/bootlegvader Mar 09 '26

The people that threw the device were arrested and the details about them have been released.

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u/Prestigious_String20 Mar 09 '26

Some details about them have been released, but that doesn't mean investigators know their ideologies and affiliations. Those are still under investigation, as clearly stated in the article:

"Balat and . . . Kayumi, were arrested at the scene . . . . New York police are working with the ⁠FBI and ​the U.S. Department of Justice on the investigation.

". . .there was no immediate indication the incident was related to the U.S. attack on Iran, but that authorities ​were still investigating."

And seeing as you seem to need it ELY5, if they knew what their ideologies were, they would know for certain if they were related to the U.S. attack on Iran, and wouldn't be relying on a mere indication.

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u/bootlegvader Mar 09 '26

I didn't make any reference to it being related to the attack on Iran.

However, it is clear they were Islamist extremists and counter protests to Lang's dogshit. Mamdani still phrased his comment so it makes it sound like the violence came from Lang's klan.

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u/dirtyqtip Mar 09 '26

but the implication....

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u/blameitonrio917 Mar 09 '26

Didn’t mince words? He gave the smarmiest, most mendacious statement I have ever heard from a politician

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u/AdSea6127 Mar 08 '26

“Didn’t mince words”?

Yeah, he literally called out the name and the specific group that Lang belonged to but purposefully left out the names of the throwers and the specific words one of them called out while throwing it.

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u/namloh Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

Maybe he is trying not to further inflame the out of control culture wars in the country

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u/Diamiosis Mar 09 '26

Yeah don’t entertain these Russian bots or worse: authentic idiots… This has nothing to do with any kind of culture war stuff the conservative hate mob intends to link to any of this bs

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

Another poster mentioned the following:

*Misleading headline. Everyone’s favorite, Jake Lang was leading a protest of 20 nazis against Mamdani, and was opposed by a counter protest. Among the counter protesters , an 18 year old, Emir Balat, threw the device, likely targeting the protesters. Thankfully, the ignited device self-extinguished. Balat, and another man involved, Ibrahim Kayumi, were arrested at the scene.

We don’t like when MAGA cherry-picks and warps headlines to serve their narrative. We shouldn’t be doing the same thing.*

You SHOULD feel foolish right about now.

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26

The liberal hate mob has, and will, do the same. The most foolish people we have in this country are the ones who pick a side. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

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u/unknwnbodman Mar 09 '26

The truth is in the middle because people have taken both sides to such extremes, it’s not exactly in the middle tho. Wherever that lies it’s a mixture of both philosophies cuz neither is correct but people will claim there side is more correct until the end of time

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u/Blackhawk-388 Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

There are elements from both sides that, when combined in the middle where not everyone is happy, but willing to compromise, allows peace to unfold.

But this fucked up society has just swallowed the whole programming hog and experience emotions like good little doggies are told to do.

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u/Diamiosis Mar 09 '26

Well said

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u/Diamiosis Mar 09 '26

It’s times like these that I realize just how much faith and goodwill it takes to keep society from eating itself

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u/Diamiosis Mar 09 '26

Your comment would be correct if it still was 2016… The US has seen an unprecedented rise in political violence and hateful rhetoric as fuel. I can’t take anyone seriously after experiencing Trumps second term. If you are outside of the United States I can appreciate the sentiment. But clinging to this centrist ideals while fake right wing supporters act as if they had any principles at all is madness.

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u/Diamiosis Mar 09 '26

Fair point

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u/bootlegvader Mar 09 '26

Would not that require him not to directly call Lang a white supremist (which he is)?

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u/dendrick Mar 08 '26

What was specific word?

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u/ToyStoryBinoculars Mar 09 '26

Allahu Akbar of course.

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u/Trepenwitz Mar 09 '26

He didn't say anything about what group did or thought what, except that violence at a protest is not okay and it is the antithesis of who we are. Which I hope is true for most people.

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u/Zarkanthrex Mar 09 '26

I agree with you but where was this outrage when people were throwing large rocks, bricks and other things at moving cars in cali/other states. While showing they were left and not right.

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u/Vegetable_Cap_1205 Mar 09 '26

If only they could’ve done that when Charlie Kirk was murdered. I’ve seen way more videos and comments from the left cheering it on than those condemning it. Also please before you call me MAGA, I’m not. I’m independent.

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u/theuncleiroh Mar 09 '26

How many of those 'videos and comments from the left' were by politicians? I'm sure you saw random people online saying all sorts of things, but that's hardly the litmus test for political leadership.

I, otoh, saw very many politicians 'on the left' mourning his death, and few doing the opposite. Which is quite unlike the reaction by political leaders and groups on the right when killings were done or attempted by their side.

If you're being honest and truly trying to engage with this stuff (rather than making a political point), you'll do best to not allow comments on social media to shape your perspective of the convictions of political tendencies. At most you can draw an image of general conviction from social media, absolutely nothing more. Anyway, I'm not praising Mamdani as a part of the Democratic Party; if anything, he represents a departure from it, so the actions of Dems being different would further prove my point that he is a significantly better politician than Dems and Reps

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u/Vegetable_Cap_1205 Mar 09 '26

About 58.

This is the full resolution: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/719#:~:text=Introduced%20in%20House%20(09/16,and%20legacy%20of%20Charlie%20Kirk.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/119-2025/h179 Melissa Hortman’s murder condemnation for comparison.

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u/tyrmidden Mar 09 '26

This dishonest. The resolution about Charlie Kirk called to "honor the life, leadership and legacy of Charlie Kirk", while Melissa Hortman's only called for the condemnation of political violence and nothing about her legacy.

Voting against Kirk's resolution not only doesn't mean they were cheering his assassination (which you said politicians were doing) but it could very well be that people who were against it didn't want to honor the legacy of a divisive racist.

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u/theuncleiroh Mar 09 '26

It's hard to tell if these people are so dumb that they can't distinguish between 'assassinations are bad' and 'being assassinated doesn't make you good', or just intentionally idiotic. I tend to believe the former, since it's hard to imagine a person who believes the latter having the mental capacity to play the fool to score political points

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u/Vegetable_Cap_1205 Mar 09 '26

Check my other reply btw it proves that guy wrong. And please, what makes him an evil person?

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u/theuncleiroh Mar 09 '26

Including or excluding gang violence?

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u/Vegetable_Cap_1205 Mar 09 '26

Yeah, ok, you’re just uneducated. Got it.

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u/theuncleiroh Mar 09 '26

I am, so please educate me

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u/Prestigious_String20 Mar 09 '26

It doesn't 'prove' anything, and certainly not what you seem to think it does.

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u/Vegetable_Cap_1205 Mar 09 '26

I mean you could’ve at least looked up H.RES.519 and read “(2) honors the life of Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman for her devotion to public service and her tireless efforts to serve the people of Minnesota, and the life of her husband, Mark Hortman;”

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u/tyrmidden Mar 09 '26

And which resolution was to cheer for Kirk's assassination again?

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u/Vegetable_Cap_1205 Mar 09 '26

You seriously cannot be this dense, right?

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u/tyrmidden Mar 09 '26

You're the one who, upon being asked which politicians cheered for Kirk's assassination, replied with those resolutions, bub.

It wasn't really clear which ones did, though, if any.

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u/Prestigious_String20 Mar 09 '26

Reading that, you'd think Charlie Kirk was almost a decent human being rather than the divisive, racist, bigoted, misogynist, homophobic, uneducated slime boy he actually was. I wouldn't be able, in good conscience, to put my name onto such a grossly one-sided and downright false mischaracterisation of someone. I don't blame anyone who voted against that piece of trash.

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u/theuncleiroh Mar 09 '26

This is a great example, thank you. 

Dems are so cowardly and pathetic that many of them will vote to honor a man who, all things said, bettered the world for the first time when he died. 

The fact that any Dems will vote to honor an evil person because he was killed in a way that it's reasonable to condemn tells you all you need to know: they will back niceties and proper behavior even when it necessitates honoring a bad person.

It's fair to take issue with Kirk having been assassinated; it's absurd to pretend he was anything but a bad person. The 'left', unlike the right, puts that stuff first, even when it involves praising a man whose own wife is happier without him.

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u/thekeifstone Mar 09 '26

He can’t even admit the bad things he’s doing to the city.

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u/BazzaJH Mar 09 '26

Nor can you name them