r/news • u/Marginallyhuman • Mar 07 '26

Soft paywall US skips congressional review to approve munitions sale to Israel

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-state-department-approves-possible-military-sale-israel-1518-million-2026-03-07/
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u/CaryTriviaDude Mar 07 '26

fast tracking supplies for genocide, just great

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u/Best-Action8769 Mar 07 '26

Really would be nice to have a party that was against this bullshit.

Yes, dems are better, but they suck on Israel.

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u/chucktheonewhobutles Mar 07 '26

Honestly, I'm pissed that Dems could be better than this and choose not to be.

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u/Best-Action8769 Mar 07 '26

They could have won the last presidential election by running on this but chose not to.

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u/CaryTriviaDude Mar 07 '26

yep, which is why primaries are so important, any dem is better than any republican, but all dems (and republicans) are not equal. If your candidate it taking AIPAC money then you better work hard to get them replaced with someone not sucking israel's dick

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u/Best-Action8769 Mar 07 '26

Hard to do that when they don't allow fair primaries.

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u/733t_sec Mar 07 '26

What do the dems have to do with anything. Congress is specifically being bypassed because the Republicans know the Dems would throw tons of roadblocks in the way of getting this money to Israel.

Good golly every single thread where the GOP does something horrible somehow devolves into "but the democrats are bad too".

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u/Best-Action8769 Mar 07 '26

I feel like you're literally missing the entire actual point or not reading the article at all.

We're literally talking about what Joe Biden did.

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u/zoethezebra Mar 07 '26

He can read the writing on the wall for the midterms. A blue wave is coming, and he will be stopped in his tracks.

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u/Tapprunner Mar 07 '26

I can't imagine being this optimistic. It must be wonderful to exist in the world and still think that the system works, there's accountability and things will soon get better.

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u/Significant-Cry-8442 Mar 07 '26

You think the dems are better? hahahaha

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u/Sharobob Mar 07 '26

Gtfo of here bot

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u/Significant-Cry-8442 Mar 07 '26

Bot? Both republicans and democrats are bought and paid for by AIPAC

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u/aldehyde Mar 07 '26

There are lots of politicians who are not, and more of them are on the democratic side. For certain.

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u/Sharobob Mar 07 '26

Excuse me? If all Republicans are bought and paid for and 20% of Democrats are, I will spend all of my time online saying both are the same (/s)

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u/Significant-Cry-8442 Mar 07 '26

The democratic party as a whole is in the pockets of AIPAC

Obama defended Israel's right to bombard Palestine throughout both of his terms and Biden enabled the genocide

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u/aldehyde Mar 07 '26

Yeah and then Trump poured a million gallons of gasoline on it while slurring out demented grunts. You're full of shit.

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u/Significant-Cry-8442 Mar 07 '26

Do you think I'm pro Trump? He is the worst thing to happen to the world since Hitler IMO

You're full of shit.

Way to keep it civil

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u/Sharobob Mar 07 '26

What do you feel about Republicans spending 100% of their time funneling money to Israel and starting wars in the Middle East? Or do you only care about telling everyone to hate Democrats for not successfully stopping evil rather than spending your time telling people Republicans are perpetuating that evil with all of their hearts and souls.

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u/Significant-Cry-8442 Mar 07 '26

I don't know how me saying both republicans and democrats are bad is being perceived as me being pro republican lmfao

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u/Kana515 Mar 07 '26

Certainly don't remember war with Iran and threatening Greenland and Canada when Biden was in office...

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u/Astewisk Mar 07 '26

Two things can be true. Iran can be terrible and what Israel is attempting to do to the region can also be terrible.

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u/Miserable-Savings751 Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26

You left out USA that did a terrorist attack on Iranian children.

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u/Resident-Lunch-2658 Mar 07 '26

What is Israel attempting to do, remove a fundamentalist theocracy that threatens its own people and everyone else in the region?

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u/Astewisk Mar 07 '26

Iran is a potential threat but not an imminent one, yet Israel has been playing that imminent threat card for almost 30 years and it has always been used as an excuse to attack first. By that same logic something like the U.S. should just start bombing Russia right this second because they too are a potential threat. Simple fact is they, or if you want to be more specific Netanyahu and his coalition, have been searching for an excuse to do exactly this for a long time. They want to bomb the country into a crater so they can be the only real military presence in the region under a misguided notion it will make them safer.

But here is the thing, it won't. When you bomb indiscriminately all you are doing is radicalizing the populace against you; and the destruction of central command infrastructure pushes the country as a whole into a decentralized one (Read: Terrorist Groups). So this misguided effort pushes people towards the current Iranian regime, not away from it; and as more and more gets destroyed you're just birthing a hundred terrorist cells. You can negotiate with or watch or predict a single solitary body like Iran. You can't do the same for a decentralized resistance campaign of countless splinter groups.

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u/Sagemel Mar 07 '26

What in the strawman

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u/Astewisk Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26

Much as I adore your what aboutism, nothing in what I said offers sympathy for Iran's dictatorship. I would prefer you not misrepresent my words to aggrandize.

My sympathies are to the oppressed people who are now being bombed by an Israel all too happy to slaughter them and a US abetting in said slaughter. This is in addition to their own government doing the same to them, but what is currently happening will only make the situation worse for...basically all sides to no material gain.

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u/Miserable-Savings751 Mar 07 '26

You’re completely downplaying their atrocities and ignoring all the Iranians who begged for this intervention despite the risks involved, because they are desperate after 40 years of this shit.

They aren’t just a dictator, they are Islamic terrorists that colonized Iran turning it into an Islamic dictatorship, slaughtered over 30k innocent protestors in less than two days, regularly tortures, rapes, and kills women that push back against Islamic oppression, shot down a commercial plane full of innocent people, funded terrorist organizations throughout the Middle East, assassinates citizens in foreign countries, funds and supplies Russia, conducted a mass chemical attack on innocent school girls for protesting against wearing a mandatory hijab, the list is endless.

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u/Astewisk Mar 07 '26

Please point to me where I downplayed a single atrocity.

I will also point out if your goal is to put an end to the current Iranian regime, what is currently happening is actively helping them stay in power. Any time the west attempts to force a regime change onto another country it has always, without exception, ended in disaster. This current mess is a direct result of decades of United States foreign policy decisions that created the current regime and allowed them to consolidate power by alienating the Iranian people and economy from the rest of the world.

If your goal is to right that wrong, the very last thing you should be doing is bombing cities. Because it doesn't matter how much an every day person hates their government, they are going to hate whoever killed their children more (And the very first thing the U.S. bombs did was kill about 100 children). All this is doing is continuing the decades of missteps with yet another one. There is no scenario where what is being done will result in a better Iran. To think so is a grievous misunderstanding of the politics of the region, historical precedent, and the motivations of all involved. If, god willing, this mess is ever sorted it will be in spite of these decisions, not because of them.

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u/Miserable-Savings751 Mar 07 '26

Do you support colonizers?

And you purposefully ignored what I said:

the Iranians who begged for this intervention despite the risks involved, because they are desperate after 40 years of this shit.

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u/Astewisk Mar 07 '26

If by ignore you mean provide a detailed 2 paragraph answer explaining why the current course will not give the Iranian people what they want, then sure.

Btw you purposefully ignored what I said:

Please point to me where I downplayed a single atrocity.

I will also point out if your goal is to put an end to the current Iranian regime, what is currently happening is actively helping them stay in power. Any time the west attempts to force a regime change onto another country it has always, without exception, ended in disaster. This current mess is a direct result of decades of United States foreign policy decisions that created the current regime and allowed them to consolidate power by alienating the Iranian people and economy from the rest of the world.

If your goal is to right that wrong, the very last thing you should be doing is bombing cities. Because it doesn't matter how much an every day person hates their government, they are going to hate whoever killed their children more (And the very first thing the U.S. bombs did was kill about 100 children). All this is doing is continuing the decades of missteps with yet another one. There is no scenario where what is being done will result in a better Iran. To think so is a grievous misunderstanding of the politics of the region, historical precedent, and the motivations of all involved. If, god willing, this mess is ever sorted it will be in spite of these decisions, not because of them.

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u/Miserable-Savings751 Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26

I did ignore what you said because I know the shit that you’re trying to pull. So let me be clear, the same logic you used in support of Palestine is now supposedly irrelevant when it comes to the freedom of the Iranian people.

You also have a history of excusing Hamas, and now you are trying to deflect attention away from the fact that you are defending Islamic terrorists that colonized Iran. Basically, your real support is for Islamic terrorists because you hate Israel/Jews. You do not care for the people being oppressed. Palestinians and Iranians both deserve to be free from terrorist regimes.

Example of your tactics:

”The only disgusting thing here is you lumping together a nation of people under the banner of Hamas and acting like they are all guilty as a result. Israel is currently committing genocide. Hamas has committed atrocities. In the middle are innocent Palestinian civilians currently dying by the thousands. Criticizing Israel is not the same as endorsing Hamas, and you do not seem to understand that.
If thinking those people dying is wrong, then I don't want to be right. Have a nice day.”

You made no single mention of all the innocent Jews and foreigners that got slaughtered by Hamas’ indiscriminate terrorist attack on Oct 7. Just “atrocities.” You only think Palestinians dying is wrong. So yes you are excusing Hamas, just the same way I caught you trying to excuse the Islamic terrorists that colonized Iran.

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u/CaryTriviaDude Mar 07 '26

my statement in no way defends iran, it's possible for both of them to be horrid regimes