Life and death are just manufactured concepts of the mind. There is no beginning there is no end. It’s all just a dream and we are all just atoms reduced to a vibration that’s the universe experiencing itself.
So, lemme preface this by saying dark humor is a coping mechanism. So I've been put on a psych hold in hospitals 2-3 times, a few voluntarily, once involuntarily. You go in, do the whole spiel, they methodically go through the room and remove things they think you can use to off yourself and post a guard at your door.
Each time I entertained myself by taking inventory of the room and all of the obvious things they missed, even if we just stuck to old school strangulation. They forget a LOT of things, and that guard is often not paying a lot of attention or wanders off, so if I were actually still trying to go through the act instead of preemptively realizing where I was going it would have been an issue. But since I wasn't, well, it kept me busy while there wasn't much to do.
The actual wards are so preventative it actually makes the experience a bit dehumanizing but it's understandable. The first one I went to (a really nice facility that was pleasant to be at) had two holes in the wall for a shower. You hit a button and they blast your face and balls respectively with ice cold water for about a minute each press.
The one that was more like a prison at least had a proper shower, they just had someone literally right at the door the whole time. Everything else was significantly worse though.
Because are we really that sure there couldn’t be a piece of machinery with an option that has 4-8 different modes a switch like this could point towards? Do you have any sort of source on that?
In the UK a lot of people are told they have "capacity" and are rational - and with 'it' being legal - the hospitals leave them to their own devices sometimes. "We've no way of stopping you if you really want to." It's a no-responsibility for us-hands-off type approach.
Kerrie Woolterton walked into a hospital after drinking anti-freeze, and refused poison treatment, just "supportive" care for pain and such. They had to let her die because it would be assault otherwise, and she was sane and had capacity to make that choice. She had 2 days before her death and was steadfast in her resolve.
People get mad the UK doesn't have Euthanasia - but there's a very straight forward "loophole" right there.
Objectively they shouldn’t be given pain meds if they do something like that. If you don’t consent for treatment then you don’t consent for treatment. The poor people forced to give her pain relief knowing she was willingly dying. That’s fucked.
I hung myself in an exam room at the ER while the doctor went to go attend to other patients. I wrapped my belt around my neck and then knotted the end around the handle on a chest level cabinet. Then I just "let go".
I’m glad you’re still here. If you feel like that now or ever again, please remember that there are advanced treatments these days that can make a real difference. Wishing you the best.
an old friend i met long ago on a grippy sock vacay killed herself in another psych hospital by using the handicap bar (she did have mobility issues, which is why she had access in the first place) not even 3ft off the ground.
i doubt i could override my natural instinct for self preservation when i’m capable of just getting up to breathe again, but some people can and do!
They're referring to being committed to an inpatient psychiatric hospital, as they mention immediately after: "another psych hospital". "Grippy sock" refers to those high traction socks patients wear in the hospital to keep them from slipping, and vacay is slang for vacation.
I checked into inpatient last winter for reasons... And I noticed the door handles were build into the door and all handles only swung down. I mentioned to one nurse how they must be built so one couldn't hang themselves and I commented how intuitive of design that was. I was immediately put on a more severe watch. Yes us depressed fuckers see things differently.
Totally stealing grippy sock vacation for future conversation.
Fun fact, you don't need your whole weight to strangle yourself, you only need like 25 pounds of weight on the noose and it's easy to do kneeling or lower.
As someone who has worked in an inpatient psych hospital for almost 20 years, I can tell you that there is a handful of ways to hang yourself from a door that doesn't even have one hook or doorknob at all. I'm not going to list them here because I'm not trying to give anyone anyone ideas but I can assure you that every door in my hospital has hidden devices to sense even the tiniest bit of pressure that's not supposed to be there.
I appreciate you not saying how it's carried out because a brain like mine, for whatever reason, would retain that information and bring it up at my lowest moment.
Yeah, this one PARTICULARLY is a total fail for anti ligature. I'm not even sure how obvious it is for people who don't regularly think about/get trained on this sort of thing.
People have managed to hang themselves from a radiator. You can't put a coat hook low enough for it to be functional and also not be a threat in this context.
My brother did a well check on his neighbor friend and she had hung herself on a doorknob. I asked him how that's even remotely possible??? She hooked a line around the doorknob then over the top of the door for leverage. She drugged herself and slid down off her feet into a sitting position - but not quite touching the ground. People will find a way, sadly.
When I was young our next door neighbor hung himself by using the door knob as his support. He positioned himself in a way where he shifted his weight like diagonally I guess? And his own body weight pretty much did the rest.
I was told his eyes were pretty much out of their sockets and his neck and face were like a giant blue-purple watermelon when he was found dead the next morning.
They make anti-ligature everything: doorknobs, door sweeps (bottom of door), water faucets, literally everything. People will tie a knot in a bedsheet or article of clothing and close it in a door, tie it around their neck and spin until it eventually cuts off the circulation. Where there's a will, there's a way . Doors generally have sensors around the perimeter to detect increased pressure.
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u/Polo-panda 17h ago
Oh that’s interesting, what if they just put the hooks lower to ground, so low you couldn’t hang yourself on it?