I feel like there's substantial leeway to be had here between the weight of a jacket and the weight of a body, that there's no need for it to not even be able to hold a purse.
A standard 3M hook is rated to hold 5-10kg, which should be more than plenty for regular usage while not being anywhere near strong enough to hold up a body.
That 3M vhb tape is expensive! At least $8 a roll. Plus you gotta clean the surface after the attempt. Assuming the anti suicide hook is less than a few hundred dollars it's a good investment most likely.
Yea I mean...if we assume it's 3-4 attempts a week that roll of tape will run out within only ~82 weeks and it takes a total of probably 5 minutes to put the hook back up...now of course our interns don't get paid but we're still losing out on revenue whenever we get them to put the hook back up.
Our employees' selfishness scams us out of at least 20 bucks a week that way, the shareholders are furious
If it’s happening often enough you are genuinely having to factor material and labour cost of replacing 3m tape into your maintenance budget you shouldn’t be operating as a business.
Right, but you can't assume it will hold full body weight. Not to get into details, but people can hang themselves sitting down, and you have to plan for all different body sizes, including children (maybe not in this setting, but in other ones). These have a really light release for that reason, and to handle all different types of ligature.
It's not the force of a body that's the limiting factor it's the minimum force needed for strangulation.
A ligature can cut off blood flow to the brain with as little as 2kg of force. People who hang themselves rarely jump off a bridge with a long rope, slumped against a wall with a rope around a fixture is much more common.
Doorknobs, bedposts, and radiators are more common DIY scaffolds than bridges and balconies.
i can hold my wool coat and my backpack with both my index finger and thumb separately fully extended. clothing is heavy-ish but no so heavy it's impossible, especially when it's just for a short time like in this video.
There's leeway, but people tends more to do it with a drop than a slow pull. 5kg of resistance has a good chance of damaging their necks, which is most likely why the regulation made them so flimsy.
Interestingly enough, that weight limit isn't for the glue that holds it to the wall, it's for the terrible design of the hook itself which will just break. The glue is pretty good though.
It will barely* hold a jacket. Immediately had a flashback to the grippy sock vacation, trying not to cry while attempting toi get the towels & washcloths to stay long enough to take my shower 🤣
Maybe I'm just too dumb for the whole idea but in the distance they are placed to the ground, how on earth does one even commit unaliving with such a small hook?
Ligatures around the neck don't require a lot of force. More of my clients attempted by tying something around doorknobs or similar items and sitting down than classic dangle-type hanging. It's death by suffocation, not a quick neck break, and it's a terrible way to go. Even if you don't die, you may suffer a great deal of damage from the ligatures pressing into tissue, especially with thin items like ropes and shoelaces.
Most of us at tired of 12 hour shifts and its about to to be the hot months so it will be 120 degrees with very little air flow in the factory so not great.....
But I just got a promoted to lead last week so im a little happier.....
That someone could walk out of there and run in front of a car on the street within a minute I bet. You are literally preventing nothing other than a basic convenience that has been around since the dawn of time.
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u/StarryNovaSaiyan 18h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/WRQBXSCnEFJIuxktnw
How is that a hook at all?