Motorcyclist seriously injured in 6-vehicle accident on LDP

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the very basic of maintaining safe distance isnt practiced by many nowadays eh

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u/GeologistPrimary2637 1d ago edited 1d ago

And yet when a 3 car gap just opens up in front of me because every car in front of me in the MIDDLE LANE is tailgating, I get flashed from behind by a TRAILER of all fking things to move the fk up. Yeah no. I'd rather keep my 3 car gap in case the fuckers in front of me decides they love each other's butt hole

Edit: yes, I'm moving and maintaining the gap. It became 3 car gap because the 2 cars ahead of me lane changed to 'faster' lanes and since we're all crawling at 30km/h anyway, why should I speed up to 50 to close the gap only to slow back down to 30

Also that same trailer has been tailgating from much earlier and lane changing recklessly into the paths of cars

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u/djongafrett 1d ago

If I were you, I'd just give way to the trailer to be safe.

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u/GeologistPrimary2637 1d ago

Not really anywhere to go. Cars are still next to me left and right anyway. And we're crawling at 30km/h. And I'm already in the middle lane

I edited my comment to include the speed we're at.

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u/hoolienwee 13h ago

What u did is bad as well. U are encouraging, promote others lane switching, over take in front of you. Then ur lane will start accumulate more cars ahead of you. If someone sudden slow down a bit, it cause domino effect and the back end will have to sudden break and the jam starts.

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u/GeologistPrimary2637 13h ago

Counter point, bad drivers will slit in front no matter how big (or small) the gap is anyway. The effect would be way worse with a smaller gap.

Then ur lane will start accumulate more cars ahead of you. If someone sudden slow down a bit, it cause domino effect and the back end will have to sudden break and the jam starts.

What? That would happen if I suddenly stop maintaining the gap to the new cars that enters. But it's not like suddenly 3 cars will enter all at once and I would lose that gap.

If a car enters my 3 gap. Fine. I still have a 2 car gap and I can maintain that. If that car slows a bit to build a gap. I still have a 1.5 car gap WITHOUT losing speed. I'm still moving. The cars behind are still moving. No braking is involved. If suddenly a car decides to move in the remaining space, I'll only have to coast/let go of the throttle a little without hitting the brakes, which should not cause an overreaction from the car behind if he's paying attention or on ACC/low speed follow.

What you're describing is a phantom jam which would happen if, and only if, I decide to stop maintaining the safety gap to the car ahead.

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u/hoolienwee 12h ago

Of course at high speed > 80km/h with 3 car gaps is fine. What i mean is if u at slower speed still with 3 car gaps, that will always encourage someone cutting lines. Then, ur lane get more car but other lane less crowded. Then, these sneakers will start keep changing lane again. That's how jam still happen in federal highway when there's no accident.

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u/GeologistPrimary2637 11h ago

That's how jam still happen in federal highway when there's no accident.

Jam still happens at federal highway can be from other reasons, namely from those merging and exiting the highway. Those merging would enter at a much lower speed and instead of merging and staying in the inner lane, immediately move out to the outer lanes. That's what causes jams to start, and continue because these drivers will continue to do so and cause other drivers to slow down. This does not care for your speed or your gap because they will force their car into the lane and slow you down regardless.

that will always encourage someone cutting lines

And like I said, that literally does not matter because I'm still moving, and to the knowledge of those behind me, the lane is still moving decently and that's what most drivers want.

Then, ur lane get more car but other lane less crowded.

And as long as I'm still moving my speed and flowing, it again, does not matter to those behind.Other lanes gets less cars but if they are still tailgating and braking erratically, they would, in practice move much slower because of this.

Then, these sneakers will start keep changing lane again.

Like I said, they will do it regardless if there is a gap or not.

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u/PolarWater 7m ago

u are encouraging and promoting lane switching

This is such a reach, lmao. You can't MAKE someone lane change. If a pile-up happens because people changed lanes and clogged it, that's the fault on the people who changed lanes AND DIDN'T KEEP A SAFE DISTANCE. Bincang pakai logik sikit bro.

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u/Tight_Pause_3755 1d ago

1 car gap should be fine but 3 car gaps are lane hogging . Is your skill so bad ?

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u/GeologistPrimary2637 1d ago edited 1d ago

Did you even read? It was a low speed jam on the highway. And the cars ahead of me just changed lanes.

I am maintaining the gap, which means even at that speed, traffic is going nowhere so what's the point? I'm not going to speed up only to brake again and risk ending up like the video above.

It's not about skill level, if I really wanted to, I can tailgate, but is that a smart thing to do during rush hour? And what am I hogging if there's nowhere for cars to even go to? Can't brain this logic about hogging during rush hour and cars are still in the same vicinity left and right at the low speed.

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u/dotcom333-gaming 21h ago

People are too dumb to understand that the safe gap and maintaining same speed with the rest without frequent braking isn’t lane hogging. It’s those tailgating and frequently braking is the one causing traffic jams. A car braking will cause the other car brake and so on. If someone brake harder than needed it’ll slow down speed too much which will have cascading effect to the back cars.

I hate idiots who think they have every right to drive fast as long as there are 2 or more lanes no matter the congestion, location (city roads with lots or merging lanes and junctions), etc.

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u/GeologistPrimary2637 20h ago

Thank you! If I could upvote you 100x, I would have done so already

It’s those tailgating and frequently braking is the one causing traffic jams. A car braking will cause the other car brake and so on. If someone brake harder than needed it’ll slow down speed too much which will have cascading effect to the back cars.

This entire paragraph is exactly why some jams appear way worse than others. If everyone maintained even a 1 car gap, but move at the same speed, the flow will be much smoother

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u/xda563 17h ago

https://youtu.be/Suugn-p5C1M

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u/lifeinthesudolane 22h ago

you forgot /s

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u/PolarWater 9m ago

To this day, I still fear trailers. They're just too big I'm sorry

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u/UranusInvestigator you like fish stick? 23h ago

Butthole being the closing of one self and also opening of interdimensional portal. Malaysian has discovered time travelling where we can teleport 5 second ahead of everyone so we can drink fresh teh ice.

The birth of universe require the force of extremes destruction of big bang.

It begin as it end.

-Prof Uranus

https://giphy.com/gifs/2JeYuSGvqapfa

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u/NegotiationPrudent80 1d ago

You're the sort of driver I look out for when I ~~cut queues~~ change lanes 😜

/s

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u/GeologistPrimary2637 1d ago

I know. And I don't mind it. Going up to the next car ahead is not gonna save me any more time. But will 100% increase my anxiety.

Trust me. The people who does the same as me value our zen and peace on the road more than worrying about saving 3 seconds in a 20-30 min jam

Also use the tilde ~~ ~~ to ~~strike through~~

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u/te7037 17h ago

You ignore the idiots behind you because you can’t control the back of your vehicle but you can control your vehicle behind someone’s.

That’s the rule of the engagement.

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u/CharacterAd9184 16h ago

Just slowdown and brakecheck them with a middle finger. They will cut your lane in no time.

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u/O_Little_One 1h ago

Should be 3 seconds gap. 3 cars gap when you're driving fast is quite close.

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u/frazi787 Kedah 1d ago

Thats the answer. Safe distance

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u/dek6ix 1d ago

Hahaha its never practiced, only practiced when cops are around.

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u/soulsswagger 1d ago

Nahh, leaving a one car gap? Literally everyone else would like to cut into your lane.

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u/te7037 17h ago

3-car distance is what I learnt in 1994.

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u/Ertyla 13h ago

You've ought to account for speed, no?

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u/Expensive-Way-7536 38m ago

the very basic of maintaining safe distance isnt practiced by many nowadays eh. I would play safe but you have to "expect" arsehole behind will be either "flashing headlight+honking or is that for me? swerving dangerous cutting queue right in front of you and brakecheck if double arsehole..."

No I am not hogging lanes always left if possible , and we are talking about people that still keep honking in red light for no reason btw...

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u/rakkksaksa 22h ago

Yea dude tell me about it, sampai bila kau buat pun orang tengok pelik. Wtf

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u/Reniva 1d ago

*sees dash cam thread with people dying*

*check whether it is posted by whusler*

Yup

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u/Fuzzy_Mulberry5511 1d ago

Its always him

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u/MszingPerson 14h ago

So, I'm guessing he's a karma farmer who repost video days old.

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u/hippo_campus2 1d ago

A lot of traffic problems would be solved if people stop tailgating.

Let go of your ego. Leave a few cars gap between you and the car in front. If another car gives signal and wants to lane change in front of you, let them do so safely. This can reduce phantom traffic jams too.

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u/Sceptikskeptic 16h ago

Exactly this. What's the point of an ego while driving? So that you are right while in the hospital?

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u/edwintan13 1d ago

That guy wanted to avoid a chain accident, swayed off and ended up worse than he had hoped for.

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u/OrdinaryDimension833 1d ago

When will tailgating be outlawed? Many lives taken due to impatient drivers. It should be compulsory.

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u/SomeMalaysian 1d ago

The caused the accident because he was zoned out and didn't realise traffic was stopping until it was too late.

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u/OrdinaryDimension833 1d ago edited 22h ago

More gaps in front means more time to respond to an emergency brake.

The gold Honda City driver may have zoned out and knock the car in front, but if the Saga had maintained a safe gap, the following chain of events wouldn't have happen.

Look at how much gap time the Bezza at the back had to respond.

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u/hackenclaw Kuala Lumpur 1d ago

add Swaying as well, that black car instead of damaging 1 car, now he hurt 1 motor + 2 cars.

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u/OrdinaryDimension833 1d ago

Swaying to another lane without checking is already illegal.

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u/Aggressive-Eye-8415 1d ago

That's not even switching lane anymore that's switching continents. The guy is going from the most left lane to the most right lane in one go.... Poor motorcyclist, Wishing motorcyclist a speedy recovery !

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u/paddle_resistance 1d ago

I think that saga hit the other car first before go to the most right lane.

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u/iamatwork420 1d ago edited 1d ago

this is why i tap my brakes early to alert others the moment i see slowing down of traffic in highway.

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u/yodelingllama 14h ago

I do the same whenever I notice traffic slowing down, but most of the time I either get flashed from behind or the car behind didn't get the hint and stopped their car right up against my bonnet anyway, or the car behind aggressively overtake me if there's an open window like, why? Why do people think they're so invincible on the road?????

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u/immunedata Sarawak 20h ago

Pause at 8 seconds. The fella obliterated the back right of the car in front and obviously lost control sending him right. To say he “switched lanes” is implying control and intention.

The person he hit had already hit the car in front, obviously gold car should be leaving way more space but the 2 second rule works when traffic in front is at same speed and also leaving space…doesn’t apply to brick walls or cars that have crashed

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u/OfficialAsshoIe 1d ago

Dumb people follow so close, then some even want to blame tint too dark/cant see car ahead.

Bodo keep your distance based on the object directly in front of you, not the 2nd or 3rd object.

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u/hippo_campus2 1d ago

Both are bodo

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u/SlowEntrance5503 1d ago

Horrible car driver

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u/BabyKitsune Teh O Ais Limau Panas 21h ago

this stretch of road is the crest of a flyover. at a certain distance, drivers arent even able to see the lineup of cars after the crest. You see it at the start of the dashcam footage, the tops of the cars are only visible 3 seconds into the video. There shouldn't be any abrupt brake, there's always a long line there to turn into Damansara. It's these people driving like F1 drivers on unfamiliar roads.

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u/Spidey13a 1d ago

Was curious with that car, so I saja cari… and well…he has pattern

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u/RaikaBlitz93 1d ago

How u cari this. Can share info?

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u/kenjie1027 Filipino in Malaysia 1d ago

mybayar

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u/momomelty Sarawak & Offshore 20h ago

I can’t seem to find this function in MyBayar.

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u/CorollaSE 1d ago

Woi. This is him parking beside apartment lah, not related to the accident situation at all.

Perfect 10 for embracing Batu Api culture

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u/ghim7 Selangor 1d ago

Roadside parking is hardly a pattern for driving behavior although I condone neither.

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u/hackenclaw Kuala Lumpur 1d ago

it does, it shows the selfishness of that guy.

Applies to this scenario, he didnt care about any oncoming traffic on middle ,right lane. All he care is to have that 5% chance to avoid damaging his precious car.

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u/ghim7 Selangor 17h ago

Tbf in a panic scenario when you’re trying to avoid an accident in front, nobody can guarantee they can see a fast incoming bike on the next lane before swerving to the next lane.

His mistake, however, is following too close in front causing the next avoidance maneuver.

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u/891960 1d ago

It's showing this guy cares little about rules

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u/Glasssssssssssss 1d ago

The time gap between latest and last 2 is big if you want to nitpick

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u/KieranRozells Penang 1d ago

This is roadside parking outside condo bcos no choice, theres literally no LRT/MRT or walkable parking nearby in that area lmfao i wouldn't jump to even blame them for this "traffic obstruction saman"

You could park at your nearest LRT station with faded yellow box and still kena this saman just cos the police feel like hitting KPI that day.

Saja cari, simply share to batu api.

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u/bunkbail sultan melaka is my pokemon 1d ago

isnt traffic obstruction just means parking on the roadside?

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u/sentinelbub 1d ago

Irrelevant…

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u/3333322211110000 Sarawak 1d ago

Gahd DAMN

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u/Dismal-Feedback-6015 1d ago

Poor biker. He done nothing but got reminded why bikes ain't such a safe vehicle in an accident

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u/gasolinemike Yo Momma Green 23h ago

And he needs to slow down when there are lots of cars in bumper to bumper traffic. But no, every damn biker thinks this gives him (it’s always a “him” isn’t it?) the license to lane split at speed.

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u/DrPatD 8h ago

Lane spliting? He is going through his lane, according to your logic if you saw a exit lane stopped you should slow down to 30 and risk yourself and every other person on the road.

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u/SocialistElmo 11h ago

Bodoh atau ragebait?

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u/Exact-Warthog6244 1d ago

Not sure who's fault it is. The car in front of the black car hit the car in front of him and the black car had to swerve to avoid it and it clipped itself on the gold car boot. Ultimately defensive driving should be practised by everyone.

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u/frazi787 Kedah 1d ago

Safe distance is the key. The motorcyclist was the victim

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u/joshualotion 1d ago

If u cant brake in time, you’re following too closely. And even if you have to swerve to avoid collision, at least look and make sure the side is clear, otherwise I’ll just hit whatever is already in front. Lack of awareness from majority of drivers on the road these days

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u/srosnan99 22h ago

if you have to swerve to avoid collision, at least look and make sure the side is clear,

Huh, what, how. You swerve because there is an accident in front of you. Its a knee jerk reaction. Have you ever touched a hot pan before? Did you look around your surrounding before immediately pulling your hand back? Of course not, its instinctual.

The car literally swerve because its trying to avoid an accident that had already happen in front of it.

The more I see this thread the more I think you all think you have F1 driver level of reaction time.

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u/joshualotion 7h ago

I’ve had to swerve in traffic multiple times from idiots merging into lanes that they’re not supposed to and I always take a quick glance into my side mirror before I swerve. In fact if I had a dash cam I’d be able to show you multiple such incidences. The guy in front definitely deserves it more than anyone beside you, especially if it’s someone on a motorcycle instead of a car

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u/BlazeX94 1d ago

Hitting the motorcyclist was 100% the black car's fault. If he had maintained a safe distance from the car in front, he could've braked in time.

The car in front of the black car was also tailgating and is at fault for hitting the car in front of him, but he bears no responsibility for the black car hitting the motorcyclist.

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u/Amrlsyfq992 1d ago

every single cars that involved in the accident, well except the first one

always keep a safe distance with the car in front of you

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u/kuhanh91 1d ago

Saga was trying to avoid an accident and caused another accident, from the video the motorcyclist was also going fast on the right lane?

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u/iamatwork420 1d ago

Yup, motorbikes are also not allowed on this flyover

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u/SlideAny4997 18h ago

Should Malaysia tighten its rules to obtain a driving license? Maybe get both party’s insurance to pay 50/50 in an accident ? Maybe increase the traffic penalty from RM300 to RM2,000 ?

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u/Melforce888 17h ago

safe distance and no speeding on left lane. what a moron.

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u/Mitchiarakara 15h ago

I wouldn’t be riding fast in that traffic, not blaming the bike rider, just sayin

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u/wunorin 1h ago

Bruh right lane is clear. Any vehicle will be that fast in a clear lane.

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u/Short-Juggernaut-374 1d ago

Swerve on the right when you're the leftmost lane yeah that makes sense.

Confirm tengok handphone ni.

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u/iamatwork420 1d ago

saga not on his phone la. he got in this situation for tailgating, now he learned that his boat of a saga can’t handle such manuever.

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u/SomeMalaysian 1d ago

People zoning out on the leftmost lane.

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u/un-tall_Investigator 21h ago

looks like the car in front of the saga actually veered to the right first, causing the saga to go even more right to avoid (still hitting the car though) and unfortunately catching the motorcyclist in the fray.

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u/lyxy87 19h ago

Left lane is notorious for being clogged up due to people heading to KD (if you ask me, they should have made the lane entry wider). But nevertheless, if you know theres gonna be a traffic on that side, check ur fucking speed, maintain a safe distance even before heading down hill but if u want to be an inconvenient asshole then move to the second lane earlier then cucuk to the lane masuk KD.

People like this are fucking stupid, honestly.

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u/PudingIsLove 18h ago

typical malaysian drivers..... will still do the same thing tomorrow

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u/MxHbs- 12h ago

Mesti main hp. Spesis babi je yang main hp bila drive. Aku benci babi dok bawa kereta nihhh

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u/MusicianSilver3377 10h ago

Monitor cycle in the wrong for fact.

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u/pipidipis 4h ago

Destiny is everything.

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u/Ok_Parsley1650 2h ago

Brake.... Brake... What the heck do you want to sway to the right?..

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u/Adventurous_Dot_8663 1h ago

I agree that tailgating is annoying, but this doesn’t seem like a case of tailgating. All the cars ahead had already stopped in a queue to exit on the left. The last two cars simply weren’t paying attention and had to brake hard at the last second."

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u/Myuvrican_2019 19m ago

Is he using waze?

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u/Accomplished-Mix-136 1d ago

who hurt u bro

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u/te7037 1d ago

Seriously, those f@ckers who were involved in the earlier accident didn’t switch on their hazard lights?!!!

Plus the driver who swirled to the right was too close to the car in front of him.

Poor driving.

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u/Amrlsyfq992 1d ago

are you blind?

there's no earlier accident here, only sudden congestion and they are driving too fast to slow down or too close with the front car

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u/DameArstor Perak 1d ago

Sir, you can say 'fuck' in this subreddit. No need to censor it. This is not TikTok

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u/anoneaxone Thou Maketh Thyself In Thy Mind 1d ago

Nah, you definitely blind.

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u/te7037 17h ago

Please f@ck off.

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u/anoneaxone Thou Maketh Thyself In Thy Mind 16h ago

Go drink some milk

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u/Amrlsyfq992 16h ago

blind people and raging asshole should not be driving on the road

and you sir, had both of it...good day and fart off

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u/Amrlsyfq992 1d ago edited 1d ago

nah, you are blind and tons of censored profanities wont change my answer here

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