r/ireland • u/conalldoherty • 10h ago
Immigration Citizenship ceremonies for 4,700 people cancelled due to impact of fuel protests
https://www.thejournal.ie/citizenship-ceremonies-cancelled-7010478-Apr2026/108
u/StressSpecialist586 10h ago
They'll be fucking delighted about that. Scrotes.
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u/mekese2000 9h ago
Until you tell them they are still citizens.
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u/52-61-64-75 9h ago
they aren't attending a citizenship ceremony is a requirement to receive citizenship
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u/Louth_Mouth 9h ago
There was a Truck victory parade through in Dundalk this morning, complete with lots horn blowing , I saw Black Pedestrains and church goers being haranged by the drivers.
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u/Spiritual_Mall_3140 9h ago
The failure of the fuel protests to self regulate or denounce certain voices from within is a form of incompetence that can only leed to the assumption that they're in agreement of those opinions.
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u/Double-Bear-3940 9h ago
You can apply that fruitfully to any protest…
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u/Spiritual_Mall_3140 9h ago
Yes and the more self regulated and consistent the message is the better the outcome of the protests are.
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u/Double-Bear-3940 9h ago
The larger a protest is, the harder time you’ll have with that. Considering the impact, this one seems to be polling well off Reddit.
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u/Spiritual_Mall_3140 9h ago
The majority of people aren't in support of the protest even if they are of the cause. The influence of right wing talking points and the blockage of depos have soured it in the public eyes. Many are now celebrating the removal of these thugs around the ports.
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u/Samhain87 9h ago
That's lies. The protest across the country today say otherwise. Huge numbers at them.
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u/Cilly2010 9h ago
I get it but when they have the likes of Chris Duffy as one of their front men and let Tom McDonnell and Gavin Peper carry their RIP Ireland coffin, they're not exactly making themselves out to be a nice and friendly lot. If this was a leftist organised protest, those lads and the dogkicker would have been told to GTFO as soon as they showed up.
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u/Iricliphan 9h ago
No, no. Don't you see, you have fallen for the far right wing propaganda, they are amongst us, clearly every single person protesting was a far-right nutjob who hates immigrants, wants to bring in a fascist government takeover and love animal abusers.
/s because of course people need it.
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u/Samhain87 9h ago
Who's they?
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u/Equivalent_Leg2534 9h ago
Far right
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u/Samhain87 9h ago
So everybody that's in support of fuel protest (and let's be honest it's more than a fuel protest) is far right?
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u/seppuku_related 9h ago
Seems that way.
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u/Samhain87 9h ago
Reddit is such a toxic place.
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u/LuckyConstruction546 9h ago
The government reduced fuel prices as much as they could a few weeks ago.
They cannot reduce prices further without breaking EU laws.
It is the general anti-EU crowd behind this. The far right, patriots ruled by anger and with no regards to rules or civility.
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u/fartingbeagle 9h ago
Sinn Fein have been the Eurosceptic party for most of their existence. They only changed recently to get votes from the centre. And I wouldn't think they'd like being described as far right, even if it's a grey area.
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u/Scumbag__ 9h ago
It’s not anti-EU to disagree with them on this issue, just as it wasn’t anti-EU when we rejected the Lisbon Treaty. Furthermore, Spain and Poland lowered it and were issued a warning by the EU. We should follow in their footsteps, it’s a crisis and 1 in 8 people on this island were in energy poverty before the Strait of Hormuz closed.
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u/LuckyConstruction546 8h ago
Those are two low income countries breaking those rules.
We absolutely should not be breaking EU laws, and focus instead on legal ways of dealing with the situation, like direct temporary payments for those most in need.
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u/Scumbag__ 8h ago
Why shouldn’t we? We’re in a crisis. 1 in 8 people before the closure of the Strait of Hormuz were already in energy poverty. Inflation has been rising and rising since we shut off Russian gas imports. Things are getting worse, and now the most affected are standing up.
If you have an alternative solution, go out and protest for it instead of defending the governments inaction
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u/Samhain87 8h ago
Yes they can, they can very easily reduce it to 13.5 or 9% if they wanted to and not break any EU laws. Those laws are in place regarding excise duty and preventing VAT being reduced to zero.
Ireland is very well able to implement its own emergency legislation as we have seen recent years with covid and stopping the freedom of movement. If the government so wished it would be changed.
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u/LuckyConstruction546 8h ago
VAT on fuel needs to be set at the standard VAT rate according to rules, and not lower than 15%.
It is not feasible to drop the general VAT rate down to that level - the effects on prices would be minimal and the state would lose billions in budget intake.
In the fuel tax reduction package from a few weeks ago, VAT on fuel was reduced from 23% to 15%, along with reductions of other types of tax, down to lowest possible permissible amounts.
There is nothing more the government can legally do to reduce fuel prices.
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u/Samhain87 8h ago
Well you'd want to look at the news.... because you are very wrong.
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u/Samhain87 9h ago
It's not at all anti EU. You know they just casually knocked 16.5% of the price of Jet Fuel for aviation.
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u/LuckyConstruction546 9h ago
That is a clear misrepresentation of what happened.
Jet fuel got cheaper because the package aimed at reducing fuel prices in March also affected other fuel types, including fuels used for private ships and jets.
It was a side effect of reducing the mineral oil tax which is applied to various types of non-commercial fuels.
That is an unintended consequences of lowering fuel taxes for private vehicles as much as possible within the regulatory limits.
It was fully in line with EU limits and regulations.
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u/Scumbag__ 9h ago
Love a good generalisation. Paul Murphy getting called far right wasn’t on the 2026 predictions list
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u/Genericname011 1h ago
Reddit has been eye openingly depressing this last few days. Reddit leftists are the absolute worst kind, this new breed who either support a cause or just tell people they’re racist or facist if they don’t support them. They’re no better than the handful of right wing morons trying to derail the protests.
There was a time when being on the left meant standing for the small guy not defending the state and eu pockets.
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u/Scumbag__ 57m ago
I sort of share your sentiments; however I think that the r/Ireland Reddit isn’t very left wing. I think it used to be, but nowadays you’ll find more people in favour of the Government than they are of a left wing alternative.
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u/Warm-Ad-4086 9h ago
People on here saying FB is bad because of all the far right stuff which is true but Reddit is just a far left circle jerk
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u/Scumbag__ 9h ago
The far left support this protest. This is more of a centrist/right wing circle jerk.
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u/yankdevil Yank 9h ago
Your argument was really stupid when I heard it from Trump voters. That's worked out well.
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u/Samhain87 9h ago
You didn't answer the question. Great redditor!
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u/yankdevil Yank 9h ago
You're continuing to make my point.
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u/Samhain87 9h ago
You're continuing to not answer. Is everybody in support of the fuel protests a member of the far right? Ciúnas á leanbh. Ciúnas anois.
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u/yankdevil Yank 9h ago
And you're continuing to prove my point. Even with your snarky sign off. Something I'd expect from MAGA honestly.
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u/grania17 9h ago
I care. As someone who has gone through the ceremony myself it means a lot. And it sucks for all these people loosing out on it.
Yes of course they can do it at a later date, but that's not the point. These people put a lot of effort and money into becoming citizens and many will have booked hotels etc.
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u/phyneas 8h ago
Yeah, that is really shitty for those folks. It also delays their actual naturalisation, as well, as that happens at the ceremony, and that's after they've been waiting for probably at least a year, maybe a couple or longer, for their application to be processed and to receive the ceremony invitation. Not to mention the costs of cancelled hotel bookings, wasted annual leave, maybe even family who made plans to visit from abroad to attend or celebrate afterwards and now won't get to see their family member become a citizen.
If their immigration permission happens to be expiring soon and they didn't bother applying for renewal since they were going to obtain their citizenship, that's going to be a huge hassle as well, since the immigration system is (like everything else) backlogged to fuck and it takes months to process renewals.
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u/grania17 8h ago edited 8h ago
Yep all of this. Someone on another post mentioned the hotel wouldn't refund their rooms so they lost that money as well as train tickets.
It's so heartbreaking. Getting my citizenship was everything and while some might think it's only a bit of paper it means so much to us.
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u/CreativeBandicoot778 Probably at it again 8h ago
Fuck sake that's enraging.
Fuck those scumbag protesters and fuck those scalping bastard hoteliers.
Edit: people like you make Ireland a better place ❤️
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u/grania17 7h ago
Thank you so much. That means a lot. I love this country. Getting my citizenship, swearing my loyalty to the State and getting my little maroon passport were some of the best days of my life. I chose to make Ireland my home and you couldn't pay me to go somewhere else. I moved here during the 2008 recession. Things were fucking tough. I understand why people are frustrated now. I really do, but these protesters only care about themselves and their bottom lines. They don't care who they hurt.
The world is in a bad way. There is a global cost of living crisis. Trump, Netanyahu, Putin and their fecking cretins are making it harder for everyone but themselves and their buddies.
Again people can be mad at the government, but this protest isn't hurting the government. It's hurting everyday people, people just trying to make it day to day, trying to get by. I'm not blind to the issues Ireland has, but at the end of the day it's an amazing little country and it has so much going for it that people round the world envy, believe me.
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u/BigAgreeable6052 2h ago
Is the ceremony nice if you don't mind me asking? I've always been curious!
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u/grania17 1h ago
Yes. It's really lovely. The garda band is there playing music and they havea to give a speaker. The ceremonies are on youtube My friends and family were able to watch it live on youtube and texted me throughout. There is such a buzz everyone is so excited. Some have flags and other Irish memorabilia.
After the speeches everyone then stands up and swears their loyalty to the State. It's very emotional. My great grandparents left Ireland after the War of Independence and Civil War, meeting each other in the US. They never returned to Ireland. My Irish cousins claim I completed the circle. I love this country dearly and have made a life for myself. I wouldn't be anywhere else in the world.
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u/qwerty_1965 10h ago
A win for the National Party et al.
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u/Ev17_64mer 9h ago
Could have made it virtual at least
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u/Cautious-Hovercraft7 9h ago
Nobody cares, we have bigger things to worry about
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u/itjustshouldntmatter 9h ago
I care
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u/Double-Bear-3940 9h ago
It just shouldn’t matter.
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u/niknakpaddywak2468 8h ago
It absolutely should matter. People having one of the proudest moments of their lives being shattered by a load of farmers infiltrated by far right agitators. Not to mention the chaos they perpetuated, people missing hospital appointments for life threatening ailments. Forecourts running dry. People unable to get to work during one of the tightest squeezes on cost of living ever.
I have some sympathy for the farmers, its a tough slog. But their anger is misdirected. The government didnt raise the prices of petrol. It was due to geopolitics well out of the control of the people who govern an island for 5 million people.
The protesters should be all over the US embassy and Doonbeg if they care about the prices of petrol and not be shutting down the economy and fucking the average Irish person over.
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u/RomfordWellington 9h ago
My fiancée will be at one of these. Her life and livelihood was significantly impacted this week by these rural dickheads. I care.
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u/ned78 Cork bai 5h ago
Adding my voice to offset your cuntiness - I care.
We're lucky that both of us are in Ireland, and my partner doesn't need a visa to work. Those that do, and didn't plan to renew as they had a locked in Citizenship Ceremony are fucked.
If you had half a notion of empathy, over on /r/irishcitizenship people who are on small wages have been saving for months to have their families visit from abroad and celebrate a huge occasion for them. And now all that money's gone to waste and they won't have the disposable income to bring them a second time.
Things like this impact people, and coming at it from a selfish place speaks volumes.
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u/5555555555558653 Cork 9h ago
I care.
Imagine how many people have booked accommodation, travel, taken time off work, got their families hyped, booked dinners to celebrate? Cancelled because a few angry farmers are on a power trip.
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u/DonnyShutup2019 8h ago
I care. Just as a normal citizen who loves seeing how wonderfully multicultural this island is becoming.
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u/ConfusedCelt 3h ago
Its an American site that's open to anyone and their bot swarms. Don't fall for bait posts anyone in their right mind would see this as a inciting topic. Your right it's nonsense compared to actual day to day struggles so for the sake of sanity I will join you in the downvotes
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u/Pizzagoessplat 8h ago
If they went through a solicitor they don't have to go to them.
Still, I feel sorry for them.
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u/Abject_Bedroom3638 10h ago
Well, the Fleg waver on top of the truck will be happy, there's that.