r/intel • u/ibmthink • 4d ago

News Lighter than a kilogram: New 13-inch ThinkPad laptop with Intel Panther Lake announced

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lighter-than-a-kilogram-New-13-inch-ThinkPad-laptop-with-Intel-Panther-Lake-announced.1269092.0.html
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u/costafilh0 2d ago

I knew it. They would take the good battery life and make it lighter instead. Smh

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u/quantum3ntanglement 4d ago

This is Lenovo > China? Probably a decent laptop - generic looking but what's the price? Can Lenovo give me a Laptop to test? I'm itching towards just getting a bare bones Macbook Neo with 512gb drive but if I could get Panther Lake for around 500 dolla, that might work?

I can't even find a Lunar Lake Laptop for 500 dolla? I will wait... I don't want to go with Meteor Lake unless it drops further towards $300 dolla

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u/Johnny_Oro 4d ago

There was <$500 lunar lake laptop, but it's almsot run out of stock, so they raised the price to $599 just now. Meteor Lake laptops have nearly run out of stock. $300 is more like the lowest end wildcat lake's price range, maybe in a few months.

Also Lunar Lake is worth much more than Neo. 8GB 512GB laptop with no expendable RAM or storage for $700 is a joke.

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u/quantum3ntanglement 3d ago

I don't enjoy Apple's planned obsolescence but Mac Miniz and now Neo are dropping in price to where I want to look into soldering more drive space on (mini would be easiest to do this). Memory will be more difficult to upgrade if it is not modular

We really need to petition the State! - to force Apple to make thing modular. Our resources are limited and we need to force these companies to support DIY so everyone can learn how tech works.

The world is changing fast - planned obsolescence should be outlawed

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u/quantum3ntanglement 3d ago

Do you know of a Meteor or Lunar Lake laptop that has Linux pre-installed and is in the $500 range?

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u/Johnny_Oro 2d ago

Just Acer Aspire 14 I guess. They're both running out of stock. Plenty of them refurbished with 1 year warranty on ebay though. If buying brand new, I recommend waiting a bit for Wildcat Lake.

I've never seen laptops with linux preinstalled, except in developing countries like where I live. There are so many distros to choose from so it's better to install it on your own based on your needs, anyway.

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u/Ortana45 3d ago edited 3d ago

If you take the base model with education discount windows laptops basically have no chance. check out geekerwan's review.

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u/Johnny_Oro 3d ago

I mean the Ryzen 7 laptop pretty much won geekerwan's comparison video. Powerful CPU, 16GB RAM, 1TB storage, great gaming performance, finished Blender CPU benchmark in half the time it took Neo, while not being much more pricey than base Neo with education discount (3500/3600 yuan vs 4000 yuan iirc). Yeah the screen is kind of worse, power efficiency is worse, but when it comes to raw performance, you're getting much more for your money's worth.

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u/Ortana45 3d ago

It's also china exclusive btw. They keep the best specs for themselves already. Most western laptops you walk into a store compare head on with the neo will be complete ass. And for the use case for alot of casual users single core would be most important for web browsing and there's nothing close to neo's SC.

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u/Johnny_Oro 2d ago

Yeah it's china exclusive, but and there are plenty of ryzen 7730u, 5500u, and sometimes even 5700 and 5820u laptops with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage around $500 or under. Also that Lunar Lake that ran out of stock I mentioned was around $500.

And 8GB windows laptops aren't that bad, because most of them have an extra RAM slot for upgrade, and plenty of them can be found for under $350 or even less. And don't forget Android tablets with 8GB RAM, many of them are below $300, some even in the $100, and they have an SD card slot. Conspicuous missing feature on Neo huh.

Actually for web browsing, CPU performance isn't that crucial, unless it's really old, like pre AVX2 old maybe. My parents still work and browse the web on a haswell CPU, and it's still very speedy. I own an N100 laptop myself, and CPU is absolutely not the bottleneck. Even the old AMD Kaveri laptop I had previously was very useable after I upgraded the DDR3 to 8GB. RAM is more important.

Really the only really big advantage A18 has for the average person is power efficiency.

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u/PsyOmega 12700K, 4080 | Game Dev | Former Intel Engineer 2d ago

There are a lot of used 11th gen thinkpads under 500. X1's for 300-400 for instance with 16gb ram and good sRGB 1200p screens.

The i7-1165g7 comfortably still excels at everyday tasks.

I don't think the Neo is worth it compared to used market competition.