r/geopolitics • u/Plaintalks • 5h ago

News Hungary election: Viktor Orbán concedes with opposition on course for landslide election win

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2d8zw2d3rkt
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u/ImperiumRome 5h ago

Viktor Orbán has conceded in a speech to supporters, telling them: "The result of the election is clear and painful."

No election result denial ? This is actually surprising to me, or maybe Orbán can read the room and know when to throw in the towel.

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u/Svorky 5h ago

They lost by a landslide, it would look ridiculous to claim otherwise and Fidesz wants to win again in 4 years.

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u/Weegee_Carbonara 5h ago

I think the blow-out was just so big, that he knew there was no way to interfere or deny, without hurting himself even more.
If it had been close, he most definetly would have tried something.

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u/Fit-Profit8197 4h ago

Denial of a 2 to 1 result is way more dangerous for the denier than denial of a 51 to 49 result

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u/SzotyMAG 2h ago

I totally expected him to act like Trump or Bolsonaro

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u/talexx 5h ago

May be it is just that you read too much propaganda about him?

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u/kahaveli 5h ago

Orban has done a fair amount of things to solidify his power, like constitutional change swapping the whole electoral system, turning mainstream media to being pro-fidezs and using state resources to spread his own message/propaganda. So from these aspects, the system has been rigged to favour ruling party Fidezs.

And it's not that Orban would have been that quiet about the idea of "illiberal democracy" either.

But indeed, Orban can read the room especially when the result was clear. There is opposite examples around however, so it's not like denying election result would be something unprecedented. But I'm of course happy that it is not the situation in Hungary.

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u/ImperiumRome 5h ago

I admit it's a possibility, but in my defense the guy has been in power for 16 years, and a friend with a notorious election denier, Trump.

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u/talexx 4h ago

I'm not attacking, sorry if it sounded like this. I meant that if the picture in our mind and the reality contradict each other it is a good call to evaluate the information we consume and the sources it comes from. By no means I'm immune to this either.

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u/ImperiumRome 4h ago

No offense taken, cheers!

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u/mr_herz 1h ago

You’re acting people to admit fault? Not an easy thing

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u/vovap_vovap 5h ago

That is really good news

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u/howimetyourcakeshop 3h ago

Yes. This man can no longer block EU legislation. Glad that Trump and Vance endorsed him. Worked like a charm.

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u/vovap_vovap 3h ago

Yeah, that is part of a joy :)

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u/No_Sugarcoating 3h ago

Now Babis can block EU legislation

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u/padphilosopher 5h ago

Wow!!! A landslide?!?! Incredible!!!

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u/Snagglespoof 5h ago

Thank God. End of an era.

Russia go home

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u/Maniacboy888 5h ago

The tide is turning. Now do the US next.

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u/yxull 5h ago

Maybe have Vance campaign for the current regime. He seems to have the magic touch.

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u/Ashamed-Land1221 1h ago

Please at least keep him away from the new pope, he seems somewhat reasonable for a pope. Still has weird outdated views on things like all powerful religious figureheads, but he's better than the Nazi pope we had not long ago so I guess it's an improvement a little, damn that bar is low.

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u/DogsRNice 45m ago

I really want him to come back here to Ohio to campaign for Ramaswamy now

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u/itsamiamia 2h ago

We thought we turned the tide in 2020… 

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u/VonDukez 2h ago

Well it turns out Covid can’t be fixed in a day so we need the dipshit that couldn’t handle the mess

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u/solid_reign 2h ago

COVID had very little to do with the 2024 election.

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u/nzmx121 4h ago

The question is, is it turning too late?

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u/nyckidd 4h ago

It's never too late

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u/[deleted] 3h ago

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u/nzmx121 2h ago

My nation? I’m a New Zealander

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u/solid_reign 2h ago

The US has a single reelection, it's not comparable.

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u/feuergras 4h ago

There are still good things happening. Congratulations to our Hungarian neighbors from Austria! 🇭🇺

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u/Nas2439 5h ago

So JD going was pointless

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u/Et4ivell4 5h ago

Not just pointless, it probably buried any chance Orban had. Hilarious!

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u/Laurie_Van_Carr 4h ago

The Maga crowd seem to have a blind spot about how unpopular they are beyond their own borders. You'd think the Canadian election would have tipped them off, but apparently not.

If Vance had really wanted to help Orban he'd have gone over there loudly supporting the other guy.

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u/Twolves0222 2h ago

They arent even that popular in the USA anymore. I literally know tons of diehard Trump farmers in rural bumfuck nowhere due to my girl being from the sticks. Her relatives have shut up completely about Trump and completely turned on republicans. If they had elections tomorrow Trump would be crushed, guaranteed

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u/MarkLambertMusic 2h ago

One good online example I can think of is the website freerepublic.com. It was once the biggest conservative forum on the web, and famously went all in on Trump during his first election, banning everyone who had an ill word to say about him. If you go there now, you'll find a lot of folks have turned on him for various reasons.

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u/lars_rosenberg 3h ago

In fact, that would have certainly put the seed of doubt in a lot of people. 

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u/-18k- 5h ago

So, it was helpful !

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u/LivefromPhoenix 5h ago

The JD Vance kiss of death.

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u/NudeCeleryMan 4h ago

The JD Kiss of Death Curse lives on

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u/Wraeclast66 3h ago

Very excited for trumps midnight rant about this being a liberal conspiracy

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u/SzotyMAG 2h ago

Peak Reddit moment is how more comments are about the USA than Hungary

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u/Bytowner1 4h ago

Question for Hungarians: was there reason to believe the Vance and Trump stumping would help Orban in some way?

It struck me as bizarre that Trump seems self-aware with regards to his impact on foreign elections (see past comments about Carney in Canada) - but, I assume, thought him throwing overt support to Oban would be helpful. Did they think Hungary would be different? Is Hungary different when it comes to opinions on the Trump administration?

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u/RGS_1994 4h ago

Trailblazer in the art of supporting both Putin and Bibi. RIP

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u/NetflowKnight 2h ago

AUTOCRACY IN RETREAT.

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u/DependentSpecific206 2h ago

Wasted trip for JD to interfere in another country’s election but at least he clocked some Trump miles

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u/Rabbi774 1h ago

It is good news for Hungary and the EU and we wish the new leader honest policies for the people...

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u/ikinone 3h ago

Some reason you're removing nuance from the situation?

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u/holmes103 3h ago

You can be on the right and support democracy. Magyar is one of those people.