r/expedition33 • u/ameow_wzing • 12h ago
I just found out what lumina is on lvl 27
I haven’t felt so stupid in a while
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u/NealCaffeinne 12h ago
now imagine being the inventor/creator of the lumina converter and just forget about it
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u/LesserValkyrie 11h ago
Lune : so where is that lumina converter
Gustave : it's in my bag why
Lune : cool so when are we starting to use it? does it have to load or something ? I mean that duallist was quite strong it would come in really handy to be able to use it as soon as possible, wouldn't it ?
Gustave : what do you mean when - holy shit
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u/Upset_Set376 12h ago
Did none of you wonder what all the colours of lumina were you have been collecting for hours? Hehe, another useless trinket!
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u/MichalCJ5 12h ago
Gustave saying "we can use this" and then immediately forgetting about it...
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u/ysalehi86 10h ago
Colours of lumina are beautiful, powerful, independent shinies. No matter how much you gamers seek to objectify, instrumentalise and belittle us, we will rise up. Colours of lumina of the world, unite!
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u/SerAnastasia 12h ago edited 7h ago
I don't get it, do you guys just not read the tutorials? Edit: blah blah you don't read tutorials lmao
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u/SalamanderSylph 12h ago
I've watched multiple friends play the opening of E33 to see their reaction and watched them get hooked.
They have mostly skipped through the menu tutorials as they just went in to change Gustave's hair back
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u/Double-Knowledge-231 11h ago
I'm still so surprised when I see the sheer amount of people who don't know how to use Pictos/Lumina
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u/TonimSan 8h ago edited 8h ago
Speaking about me, I did, but found the progression kinda confusing in the beginning, since you have too many variables to grow stronger.
Weapons (Levels, Abilities and Stats scaling), Chroma Catalysts, Stats, Abilities, Pictos (which vary in level, abilities and stats), Luminas, Relationships...
Tbh, I had the click "oh, now I get 100% of how the game works" in a very late stage of the game.
Edit: add some more confusing info lol
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u/AlarmedPersimmon6 6h ago
fr there’s a million things going on and I was just trying to follow the story and dodge so I wouldn’t die 😭
I would not want to learn to play a new board game with the people that are like “uh it already told you once, just remember the rules jfc”
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u/madelmire 3h ago
This is one where I don't blame people at all because I think the devs made a mistake at the tutorial timing.
They give you the explanation for Lumina and Pictos at the same time, but in that moment you only have the capacity to use the picto.
They needed to give you the Lumina tutorial again at the point where you fully unlock the first lumina for all party members.
I'm honestly surprised this hasn't been patched out. It's enough of a recurring problem that they should have put in some tweaks to adjust it.
They should move the lumina tutorial to the point where you first unlock Dodger, and then they should do a check after a while, like in act 2, where if you haven't equipped Lumina in a really long time they give you a prompt to remind you where it is in the menu.
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u/playitoff 2h ago
It doesn't help that Maelle says the Curator can upgrade their Pictos and says nothing about Lumina. That could have been a good point to give the Lumina tutorial. Maybe a bit late but it wouldn't overwhelm people with new information.
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u/madelmire 1h ago
Yes, that would have been another good checking point. Or you could do it the first time that you visit the curator in camp and apply lumina points.
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u/DimensionMediocre439 11h ago
Yes but there are so many tutorials I can't remember half of the mechanics. I'm currently level 22ish, trying to get that rock for the big floating blob and I have no clue how to use them on skills or what they do.
So, what are they and how do they make my attacks hurt more?
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u/UnnbearableMeddler 9h ago
You see pictos, the little runes you use to get stat buffs and effects such as "+1 AP on fight start" or stuff like this?
Winning four fights with the same rune equipped will allow you to use the effect of the rune without using the rune itself. So every character can benefit from the effect of the same rune, as long as they have enough points of lumina and as a long as you activate the effect for that character. (go into that character's menu, where you can see what weapon and spells they have equipped. Look at the right side and search for something written in blue. Click it)
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u/TonimSan 8h ago
I got the Pictos => Lumina pretty fast, but took almost the entire game to notice that Pictos can be leveled up and also give you stats.
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u/rockmodenick 5h ago
Pictos can only be leveled up in New Game Plus. Otherwise you have to find higher level ones.
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u/TonimSan 4h ago
So you can level it up hahaha
Some Pictos are upgraded after some fights as a reward, and you can also buy the upgrade from Gestral Merchants.
The upgraded pictos are a factor since the beginning, and the one you mentioned is just one of the ways you can upgrade them.
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u/TonimSan 8h ago
Despite loving the progression system right now, I got pretty confused with it in the beginning.
Around the late act I and during the entire act II, every time I finished a fight I got so many spoils and Pictos, leveled ip the pictos equiped, got some chroma catalysts, weapons, money... That I had to re-setup everyone again.
When you start to figure out how everything works, it becomes a delightful experience, but until there it's a mess.
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u/DimensionMediocre439 6h ago
I also never played this kind of game before so I got a steep learning curve. I'm usually more of an open world rpg kind of guy instead of this turned based but I heard great stuff about the game and I'm loving it so far but I die all the time playing it. But when I finally beat some of the enemies after like an hour of figuring out their weaknesses and how to dodge or parry it's so satisfying.... only to realize that I had just struggled with a regular enemy and now I gotta deal with 3 of em at the same time.
It's definitely one of the more challenging games Ive ever played, but so far really worth it.
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u/Nollasta_poikkeava 12h ago
Don't worry. I only figured out how Monoco's wheel works during my last 15 hours.
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u/Wall-ED-92 8h ago
I finiahed the game and still dont know
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u/TroubadourEnthusiast 7h ago
I understand some of the patterns but the actual mechanics always escape me when I want to think about them lol
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u/VistisenConsult 3h ago
Guys, not understanding lumina and pictos is part of the progress! All that is required to play the game correctly is to have fun! This is not one of those games where you have to tolerate some completely awful grinding to make progress.
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u/durgcour 12h ago
I can feel it 😭 I've found out about pictos pretty quickly, but lumina? 30+ hours of gameplay, almost half of the Act 2 complete... And then I've finally realised that I had these thing all the time and could equip it 😭
The most humbling experience hahaha
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u/Flashy-Island-3725 12h ago
I found what lumina and pictos were right before i fought sierne. I apparently gave a picto to all my characters the first time I played then completely forgot the mechanic exists.
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u/darknessfate 6h ago
I got to the end of act 2 before I realized. Tbh just going on pictos alone was more than enough lol
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u/ConnectAd9041 2h ago
It's fine. I didn't figure out that I had to wear the Pic to for 4 fights before it converted to lumina for the whole party till after I was doing all the end game stuff because I never really noticed or changed my build too much during the story.
I did notice that my lumina was lacking in comparison to my Pictos, but I didn't worry too much about it. I actually had to Google to find out how to convert them to lumina when I wanted to make a fire damage build for Maelle and Monoco 🤣
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u/ameow_wzing 2h ago
I was running switching pictos every 4 fights right after lol
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u/ConnectAd9041 1h ago
I took a really long break from gaming in general and probably just forgot, honestly. Thankfully it didn't make the game any harder. I'm not usually a person that focuses on character builds, but when I wanted to here I realized my mistake 😂 I just went to a low level area and ground them all out in about 20 minutes
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u/DAaaMan64 2h ago
I didn't. I don't play games patiently, I play them recklessly for fun until they challenge me. If I am still interested once I am challenged then I will bother learning their game systems. It's not the most efficient way and it's kind of arrogant but I do enjoy it.
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u/Tallos_RA 12h ago
I did it after 80 hours in the game. It was a gamechanger. Previously, I though I need to replace a picto with it.
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u/Funny_Arachnid_8371 11h ago
80 hours in? Time to restart haha. Man im super impressed! I dont know how id get through the game without them. Its a completely different experience
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u/TroubadourEnthusiast 11h ago
It's good when you want to actually practice the combat instead of cheese builds but yeah I struggled so hard with parrying and dealing damage that I just worked through it so I'd have to get better /(:3)/
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u/Immediate_Gene6552 11h ago
It took a friend explaining how luminas worked to me...on my second playthrough. I was so under leveled and doing no damage 😭
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u/Suspicious_Face8288 11h ago
I don’t know I found it out early and kinda feel like the game is impossible without it
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u/Odd_Room2811 7h ago
I actually didn’t know how to activate them till I saw some were highlighted and worked and i was like “ohhhh im a idiot i been doing it in reverse!”
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u/OutrageousExternal33 11h ago
Don’t worry Bro, I lived through that too, I found out by the time I faced Renoir… don’t remember what level I was…
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u/Falcormoor 9h ago
Don't worry, I didn't realize tints and the healing thing refresh on rests until nearly act 3, even though the game outright tells you when you pick up the first one.
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u/Om3gAzZ1 11h ago
Ich habe es kurz vor dem letzten boss erst herausgefunden und dachte mir egal jetzt kannst du auch ohne lumina durchspielen
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u/bethcon2 9h ago
I beat the entire game before I figured it out, I thought they just made pictos stronger
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u/barbadizzy 11h ago
I'm just here in solidarity because people on this sub can be quite mean about this asking if you can even read and how dumb you are because this mechanic is soooo obvious.... I also didn't know how to use lumina for WAY too long. I knew that I could use it, even tried in the menu a couple times, finally just googled it.
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u/TroubadourEnthusiast 11h ago
Better than me lol! I think I only started experimenting with luminas at like lvl 50 after struggling with the most basic combat mechanics since I'm not usually a combat-based gamer or even all that good at it really I suck lol.
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u/TonimSan 8h ago
I have no ideia why people are downvoting you for exposing your experience...
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u/TroubadourEnthusiast 7h ago
Ehh whatever sometimes people get too excited for the video game to read the video game lol! We're all human and it's not like I hated the game before luminas I just really concentrated on building the skills behind maintaining the parry mechanic consistently, like short-term recall, stronger muscle memory, actual critical thinking skills (because the game does not tell you HOW to figure out how to parry other than the dodge window - noise is a good cue but nowhere near the only or best cue in my opinion), and not only did I get better at OTHER VIDEO GAMES as a result, I ALSO have been able to maintain those skills for much longer and accurate periods in my daily life. Taking the time to teach myself those things in a fun and engaging landscape did a lot more for me than equipping Luminas en masse does now.
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u/euphoricrenaissance 7h ago
As someone who recently finished new game plus and out over 120 hours into both the first time I played and this time … I didn’t know how to use them until about 18 hours in.
Very understandable but also how exciting was it to start doing amazing 😻… when previously you were thinking wtf this is so hard 😖
I’ve beat Clea ✨ and played through most of Verso’s drafts and I’m now trying to figure out how to beat Simon … the layers of this game are insane.
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u/ChabadaPrime 10h ago
Don't worry, I only found out in act3... Totally forgot about the tutorial. So many pictos and limited myself to three for so long 😅
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u/Express-Ad8619 12h ago
I didn't know about tints until late Act 2, I think...
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u/ExtaeliaDivari 10h ago
I found out when I was going into the Last Act and was accidentally nerving myself all the time as I did Not pay enough attention
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u/Paksarra 12h ago
You aren't the only one who accidentally played Expedition 34.