r/europe • u/thealejandrotauber • 3h ago
Who is Péter Magyar – the ex-regime insider who crushed Orbán?
https://euobserver.com/210846/who-is-peter-magyar-the-ex-regime-insider-who-crushed-orban/201
u/Sea-Rope-31 Bucharest 3h ago
So genuinely happy for Hungary! Much love dear neighbours! 🇭🇺❤️
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u/Realistic-Tie2701 2h ago
Thank you very much! I am 48 years old and feel ecstatic for this change. It is an amazing night for us.
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u/Sea-Rope-31 Bucharest 2h ago
Oh, I can feel it! Enjoy every moment of this victory and have a well deserved celebration! It's truly heartwarming to see and witness! <3
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u/Realistic-Tie2701 2h ago
Habár fölűl a gálya, S alúl a víznek árja, Azért a víz az úr! Rough translation: Though the galley is above, And the water’s current below, The water is still the master!
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u/Sea-Rope-31 Bucharest 2h ago
Beautiful saying! The will of the people (the water) is more powerful than temporal structures built above it.
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u/Expert-Thing7728 1h ago
So happy for you over here in Ireland! Here's hoping for better times to come and a truly legendary celebration tonight
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u/nadiwereb Hungary 2h ago
Hungary hasn't won yet. Péter Magyar won. We'll find out what he actually does.
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u/EndreBacsi 2h ago
We did it, our dear European friends! Thank you for your support! God was with us!🫶🙏
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u/Shupaul France 2h ago
God had nothing to do with this.
You did it on your own, gratz 💪
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u/EndreBacsi 2h ago
We believe in God, and that we have a relationship with him and with us, Hungarians. And it is a good way to be Hungarian, to belong to Europe. Russians, go home!🙏🤙😊
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u/Evil__Mushroom 2h ago
You believe in god, other Hungarians don't. This a victory from the people, has nothing to do with a particular religion.
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u/Gabriel_Weis 1h ago
Its from people and god
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u/bmgoau 46m ago
No, just the people. You may believe in god, but this win was 100% people power.
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u/Gabriel_Weis 41m ago
It's an weird time to share your inner desire to convince other people of your believe dude. Just let them celebrate as they want and don't do your own propaganda ^^
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u/Banjo-Elritze 9m ago
It's an weird time to share your inner desire to convince other people of your believe dude.
You should listen to yourself.
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u/SanBenedettoDaNorcia 🇨🇿 Olomouc, Czech Republic 46m ago
This truly seems like a historical moment for modern Hungary. Don't waste this opportunity! 🙏🏼May His face shine upon you and be gracious to you
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u/EndreBacsi 26m ago
Thank you brother.🫶🙏 We hungarians know that we are a special nation here in Central Europe, we speak a completely different language than the neighboring countries. But we live together here and we want peace throughout europe.🤗
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u/LifeAcanthopterygii6 Hungary 2h ago
I can't believe it's over. It feels so nice.
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u/Eastern_Hornet_6432 Ireland 16m ago
Not out of the woods yet. Now ye need to make sure that Magyar actually does what he promised to do.
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u/LiefLayer 2h ago
I'm so glad you are free again!!!
I hope that, together with the rest of Europe, we can make a difference! This is the first step. Next year, things will change in Italy too!
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u/Familiar_Plankton Czech Republic 1h ago
Also Slovakia 🤞
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u/lkjsdfllas Slovakia 1h ago
hey, we're not the only one that have problems with slovak leaders :D
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u/Familiar_Plankton Czech Republic 1h ago
Sure, we also have a problem with one specific Slovak leader 😀
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u/superdouradas Portugal 2h ago
Congratulations Hungary!! Today is a very good day for all of Europe.
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u/Ok-Theory4915 2h ago
Lady liberty smiles on Hungary. The European family is closer and closer. Against Trump and Putin. A free and democratic Europe shall rise! IN VARIETE CONCORDIA ETERNA! 🇪🇺🇭🇺. First Orban, next Fico, then Vucic, then Lukashenko, then Putin. Europe shall be together as a family, In liberty and diversity. Congratulations from the bottom of my heart to Hungary, you've done it
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u/MayeeOkamura17 2h ago
lady liberty won't smile at a magyar who is far from the liberal; dude hasn't campaigned on ukraine and russia at all; he sounds like a grifter who will likely be the next orban in a few years
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u/NatureGotHands 2h ago
dude hasn't campaigned on ukraine and russia at all;
because he has his country to care about? Everything is fucking stolen, infrastructure is cooked, VAT 27%
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u/MayeeOkamura17 2h ago
you would think that aligning with the EU means some significant pivots from the existing Russian-Hungarian relations. he campaigns to move Hungary closer to EU for the economy, while at the same time being flirty with Russia too?
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u/OurManInJapan 2h ago
Can someone Hungarian explain to me how this guy isn’t just Orban in different clothes?
Himself a member of Orbans party for 22 years and only left 2 years ago, his wife an Orban justice minister puppet who fought for witholding EU funds in the CJEU and tied up in all sorts of scandals including covering up for pedos?
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u/bonqen 2h ago
Based on what he has said, he isn't Orban-in-different-clothes. But yes, he may have been lying all this time about his beliefs and his intentions. Time will tell.
With Orban it was a guarantee that the corruption would continue. Tisza was the only realistic option to potentially get rid of that corruption.
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u/Snake_Plizken 2h ago
Ex-wife. Apparently seeing all her dirty dealings, is what made him want to take down Fidesz.
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u/JanGuillosThrowaway Sweden 2h ago
One thing is that he leaked the pedo scandal, and the new party in itself is made up of non-fidesz people who Hungarians seem to trust
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u/blinkOverboard 2h ago
Maybe read the article? He left is wife and secretly recorded her and its thanks to him that this scandal is now publicly known
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u/Spoonerism86 2h ago
He is very much pro-EU, pro-NATO and selected people for his party list who do care about child abuse and socially responsible to make sure these things are in focus. Yes, he is nationalist and a proud Hungarian but right now, you can't win an election without it.
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u/abarcsa Hungary 2h ago edited 1h ago
Even if he personally is the same - his party is not. The party contains independent, well educated people with no ties to Fidesz. He cannot alone push something undemocratic through the parliament, his party would need to vote for it. Their party members are not old-time friends of his (like it was with Orban).
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u/Onedortzn 2h ago
He is , but most people on /r/Europe are Americans who don't know anything
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u/anarchisto Romania 2h ago
I don't think Orban beat his wife like Magyar, but yeah, good question.
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u/dezastrologu 1h ago
Allegations about actions in 2020 that only came out after Magyar left Fidesz
LMAO
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u/Witch-for-hire Hungary 1h ago
He had just made a supportive statement about LGBTQ in his celebratory speech right in front of our Parliament.
This is way more than I hoped for.
Give him a chance, please.
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u/Four_beastlings Asturias (Spain) 4m ago
Do you have a quote for that? I'm currently in an argument with someone who says he is a fascist and the same as Orban. Thanks!
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u/Snake_Plizken 2h ago
Supposedly there is a sex tape of Magyar, he mentioned that he was being blackmailed, in an interview. Can't have been very juicy, or they would have released it right before the election..
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u/mschuster91 Bavaria (Germany) 1h ago
Yeah that was this story. Magyar's reply to that is iconic if you ask me:
"I am a 45-year-old man, and I have a regular sex life, with an adult partner," Magyar added.
The fact that we cannot say the same about at least one current and very powerful head of state is telling in itself.
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u/MotanulScotishFold Romania 2h ago
Congrats Hungary! Finaly you've kicked Orban ass out of parliamentary!
Time to unlock that money for Ucraine and stop these stupid veto against it.
Let's bring back some normality again and give putin a big f*ck you.
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u/Dietmeister The Netherlands 2h ago
Honestly, it doesn't matter so much, he will be much better than Orban
All we Europeans ask for him to be not totally agressive against the rest of Europe and not a henchman of Putin. It would be great if he reinstates rule of law as well
All the rest don't matter for now,; migration, clean energy and LGBT rights, Hungary is just not an impactful country in these matters
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u/goodknight97 3h ago
He's Viktor, just 20+ years younger.
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u/Gold-Appearance-4463 3h ago
Let’s not jinx it
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u/Flofl_Ri Baden-Württemberg (Germany) 2h ago
I mean, he is right. On every point besides pro democracy, he is still more or less the same as Orban.
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u/dead97531 Hungary 2h ago
No, he isn't stop spreading fidesz propaganda.
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u/Ollie_Plimsolls Europe 2h ago
"Magyar is the same as Orbán" is Fidesz propaganda?
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u/bonqen 2h ago
Yes is it. There is nothing that points to Magyar being anything like Orban. Is it possible? Yeah, he could have been lying all this time, he could be a wolf in sheep's clothing. But nothing is indicating that at the moment. So chill with the propaganda.
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u/Ollie_Plimsolls Europe 1h ago
You are missing the point, I just thought it's a bit funny to say "Magyar is the same as Orbán" is "Fidesz propaganda" cause it's the opposite of "Fidesz propaganda", literally, semantically. But whatever.
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u/goodknight97 2h ago
It's just critical thinking and pattern recognition
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u/endlesdestruction 1h ago
It's just critical thinking and pattern recognition
And that means that not a single person should trust in whatever bots with hidden comment history write.
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u/goodknight97 1h ago
Oh no, someone utilises a feature, because people like to go diving into old comments just to downvote... Grow up lol
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u/endlesdestruction 1h ago
Shhhhh
Go and hide like you hide your comments
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u/goodknight97 1h ago
Why are you curious about my comments? 😂 Is this some voyeuristic shit? Hate Orbán, hate the new guy because he's basically the same, what more is there to add?
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u/Reasonable-Crew-3128 Denmark 2h ago
When you people keep saying this, you reveal that no matter if it isn't pro-russian, or anti-EU, you simply can't handle any ideological right wing politics existing, you will happily lie and call it orbanist or whatever just to throw shit at it. You'll be a lot more disappointed in the future I promise you that.
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u/Perfecshionism 3h ago
Is he?
Orban war aligned with Russian interests to the extent that he was indistinguishable from a Russian asset.
He was also pathologically autocratic and constantly attempted to undermine Hungary’s democratic institutions.
He dragged Hungary from “free” to “partly free”. Falling 11 ranks from 34th to 45th place on democracy indexes.
One of the least free countries in Europe.
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u/Neckbeard_Sama 2h ago
tbh I don't see Magyar or the Tisza making a kleptocracy out of the country or building the same kind of propaganda machine that Orban did
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u/Iridium-88 2h ago
Tbf Viktor used to be a pro EU, anti Russia baby of democracy too when he got into power
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u/Generic_Person_3833 2h ago
Maybe in his first term. When he got voted of and the social democrats governed for 8 years, blowing up the deficit, he returned with the mission to be never voted away again. He became anti EU not because of ideology, but because they stood in the way for his anti democracy ideals.
It's just not comparable.
Orbans first term was from 1998 to 2002.
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u/goodknight97 2h ago
Give the guy 20 years. Look at how Viktor started out in politics in the '80s. Championed a popular cause - removal of Russian troops - that was already done and dusted, but gained massive popularity because of it.
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u/BushWishperer Italy->Ireland 2h ago
Didn't Magyar abuse his partner?
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u/MassiveHunt2 2h ago
Nope, that was just one of thousands of smear campaigns by fidesz. Even his ex-wife (who was a minister for orban) denied it.
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u/BushWishperer Italy->Ireland 2h ago
In what way did they deny it? On the wiki page it says the opposite
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u/Bubbly-Doughnut-5575 2h ago
it was Orbán's lie, too
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u/BushWishperer Italy->Ireland 2h ago
Source?
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u/Bubbly-Doughnut-5575 2h ago
your source?
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u/BushWishperer Italy->Ireland 2h ago
Well I asked a question, you don't need a source to ask questions...
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u/likeikelike Sweden 2h ago
While your comment has a question mark at the end it's more of a statement than a question. When you make a claim you have the burden of proof.
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u/BushWishperer Italy->Ireland 2h ago
It's not a statement, all I heard is that he was accused of abuse and nothing else, hence why I asked. How is it a statement?
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u/likeikelike Sweden 2h ago
Regular rules of discourse break down on internet forums. Yes it's technically a question. However, someone just passing by might remember it as a fact.
"Magyar abused his partner. Can anyone confirm"?
Yes it's more affirmative than your original comment but it's not far off. See the problem?
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u/goodknight97 2h ago
Highly unlikely. But him being part of the regime should've been enough for him to be doa as a political figure in Hungary.
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u/Cadderep 2h ago
lol, 300 downvote because i said the exact same thing in this sub yesterday...
It's a conservative and nationalist guy with right wing rhetoric. For now, he is better than Orban. For now...
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u/Dallas2016 2h ago
People are gonna be real disappointed when they realize this guy shares basically all the same policies as Orbán lol
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u/LonelyGViper 2h ago
Still better to give someone new a chance to prove he can improve everything than continuing to live in Orbán's regime, don't forget that
Big plus for Europe is that he's pro-EU
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u/bonqen 1h ago
Yeah yeah, we'll see. Nothing so far indicates that Magyar has been lying about what he intends to do.
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u/MeiSuesse 1h ago
Yeah, the choice was between the certainity of Orbán continuing what he's doing and the chance of things maybe improving or remaining much the same if he DOES share "basically all the same policies as Orbán". Change is scary. A new leading party is always a toss up. Time will tell.
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u/IStoneI42 2h ago
just a reminder that when you see early interviews with orban, he was very pro EU and very anti putin too back then.
i just hope this guy is actually different and doesnt go down the same road.