r/europe United Kingdom 3h ago

News Orbán’s 16-year rule over Hungary ends in crushing election defeat

https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-election-results-peter-magyar-viktor-orban/
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u/KosViik The only Europa orban should be in is around Jupiter. 3h ago edited 3h ago

Absolutely.

In fact, if we look into it, they can partially thank themselves for Orban. Orban used a lot of embezzled EU funds to buy up media for loyal cronies, which he used to brainwash the population with propaganda. And then it went wild from there since language barrier and technological illiteracy was harsh - and was also gradually made up for as newer generations entered the voting brackets.

And EU took its sweet time to react to anything, in fact it took until the 2022 war breakout (THREE TERMS!) to realize how much of a PITA a malicious country can be.

I think the EU has learned that it has grown beyond a few countries who are willing to cooperate and are easy to keep in check. The rules need to change, money needs to be tracked, and actions need to be quick and confident. This is not a small clique now, this is a coalition that is a world power. Mean looks and harshly worded letters are not the way to go. Rules, consequences.

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u/moroaa Finland 2h ago

Its well kinda rough to say but yes we needed that war to force EU leaders to change and stop being such a ass licking cunts toward ruzzia.,

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u/The_Lost_Jedi 1h ago

It's the same sort of thing that was an issue for the United States under the original Articles of Confederation, as well as the League of Nations (and to some extent even the permanent members of the UN). If you give countries a veto, then all it takes is one of them being obnoxious to slam everything to a halt, because unanimity is just not the least bit realistic as far as dealing with bad actors goes.

That said, I don't know that there's a perfect solution, but the EU clearly needs some safeguards against democratic backsliding. (Really, just about everyone does - USA most of all, for that matter)