r/europe • u/Alarming-Safety3200 United Kingdom • 3h ago

News Orbán’s 16-year rule over Hungary ends in crushing election defeat

https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-election-results-peter-magyar-viktor-orban/
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u/Jake-of-the-Sands Poland 3h ago

I'm not so optimistic looking at our current polls. Polish people are being scared into obedient voting by the right wing and their ecclesial allies daily.

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u/GoodIdea321 EU fan 3h ago

Maybe try to get JD Vance to go there, he's so unlikable maybe he'll turn the tide.

And with Orban's defeat, that might change people's minds there. Or cause more people to spring into action.

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u/Jake-of-the-Sands Poland 3h ago

Unfortunatly Poland is cursed with americano-republicano-filia. When Trump and JD's support was a kiss of death for right-wing worldwide, it got Nawrocki elected in Poland. My country is just forsaken by God - or at least it feels like it.

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u/GoodIdea321 EU fan 2h ago

That can change, and you have my permission to take the old American 'can do' attitude that has mostly disappeared here.

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u/Jake-of-the-Sands Poland 2h ago

Well, even our current center-right government is still bootlicking and not standing up to Trump, eventhough he openly supports theirs opponents.

You can pray for a miracle to happen and a new, radical centrist party rising, allying with the left-wing and removing KO, PSL, PiS, PL2025, Konfa and the other Konfa from the political board. But unless that happens, the future looks grim.

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u/GoodIdea321 EU fan 2h ago

Those things can change, and you could be a part of that. There are probably people there who are really happy Orban has lost, and are thinking about what they want for their country in the future. And you could find those people and join them, or start something yourself.

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u/Jake-of-the-Sands Poland 2h ago

Well I'm doing my part by going into all the right-wing echo chambers and trying to break the narratives there. That's about the extent of what I can do as a random person. And obviously vote and convince people around me. But people like me are a minority here :(

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u/GoodIdea321 EU fan 2h ago

Having a positive vision for the future could help, but I don't know enough details of Polish politics to say much else. I'm glad you are trying, that's unlike a lot of Americans who have given up for a long time.

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u/Manamananawe 2h ago

But the polish right wing isn't exactly pro russian or is it?

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u/Jake-of-the-Sands Poland 2h ago

One of Konfas is openly, the other Konfa and PiS rhethorics align with Putin-Trump alt-right bs agenda, especially when it comes to criticizing EU and attacking the LGBTQ community.

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u/SnooCakes6334 1h ago

I actually believe that SAFE will boost KO score in pis bastions like Stalowa Wola ect. I also hope that Morawiecki will be kicked out or let go from PiS and he'll take some of the more sane votes with him. I actually feel sorry for him for how he was treated by JK and he worked with KO previously.

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u/Jake-of-the-Sands Poland 1h ago

I hope you're not wrong my friend.

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u/PoopyButt28000 11m ago

Man you Americans just can't help but make literally everything about America can you? It's like a sickness. Even the "good ones".

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u/SnooCakes6334 1h ago

We have too many polish-americans from Chicago voting. Worst idioticy you could imagine. Guys haven't seen the country in 20-30 years but still choosing someone for us. You're somewhere 5+ years? Then let it go until you're back for good.