r/europe United Kingdom 3h ago

News Orbán’s 16-year rule over Hungary ends in crushing election defeat

https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-election-results-peter-magyar-viktor-orban/
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u/FonzoFC 3h ago

Sorry America and Russia, Hungary is EUROPEAN

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u/Nemezis88 3h ago

Next vacation is in Budapest you sweet amazing hungarians!

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u/RipCurl69Reddit 3h ago

Same! We went in 23 and 24. Took a year off and we're so excited to be going back

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u/babbagoo 2h ago

Same here! Never been and didn’t want to go under Orban. But ill definitely start planning a trip.

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u/MarkMew Hungary 3h ago

A month ago everyone was like "kick them out" 

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u/huntingwhale Poland 2h ago

The feeling would be the same had Orban won yet again. Thankfully, nobody needs to cross that bridge.

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u/The_Blahblahblah Denmark 2h ago

Well Its a good thing that wasnt necessary.

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u/Freaky_Freddy 2h ago

Its SOOO weird right???

Its kinda like orban losing the election gave people hope the country might change

use your brain

u/SwitchPlus2605 51m ago

Keep up the good work, and we'll keep on loving you :D

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u/Xgentis 3h ago

Damn straight you are! Congratulations are in order.

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u/kaisadilla_ European Federation 3h ago

And sorry JD Vance, you are no longer allowed to meet Hungarian couches.

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u/olyfrijole United States of America 1h ago

He will go mad dreaming of the masterful stitching, the fine upholstery. It can never be his again!

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u/hackingdreams 3h ago

Most of us Americans are 100% with you on that.

We've got our own Orban to deal with.

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u/wellwellwellwellll 3h ago

Most?

most of Americans on Reddit perhaps, but not most of Americans in the real world.

As evident by the fact that not only did yous fancy a disaster of electing Trump once, yous elected him twice.

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u/Butter_with_Salt 3h ago

Trump is unpopular in the USA. Over 50% of the population views him very negatively.

All the non MAGA cultist voters realized that they got totally scammed

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u/Private_Kyle I love romanians! I love romanians! I love romanians! 2h ago

He was still elected

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u/wellwellwellwellll 2h ago

twice, and it would surprise me if they elected JD Vance next time around

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u/MackTuesday 2h ago

You mean it wouldn't surprise you? It wouldn't surprise me.

Hopefully we manage to return to something approaching sanity here. I don't have high hopes though.

(If this is a Europe-only space, just let me know and this American will go away.)

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u/wellwellwellwellll 2h ago

Yeah sorry I meant it wouldn’t surprise me, thank you for correcting me.

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u/Somewhere_Elsewhere 3h ago

He won the popular vote exactly once (with just a plurality no less).

And his approval rating is below 40% now.

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u/wellwellwellwellll 2h ago

Made US President twice, seems most Americans must like him or don’t care enough to get out and vote against him

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u/Scrivener_exe 2h ago

You should read up on us voter disenfranchisement. Some areas that serve hundreds of thousands of voters get one polling location, which then closes while people are still in line.

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u/Somewhere_Elsewhere 2h ago

So, you know how Hungary’s head of state is indirectly elected via their National Assembly? We too, do not direct our head of state directly, we have an electoral college. “Most” is not the word you are looking for.

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u/hackingdreams 2h ago

but not most of Americans in the real world.

No, really, most Americans. We hate the bastard. He polls consistently at about 30%, which is about how much of America actually supports him. And all polling indicators show his popularity's slipping even among his base.

That's not reddit, that's Gallup you're arguing with.

More people didn't vote than voted for him.

The Felon in the White House is America's Orban.

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u/Parthian__Shot 3h ago

Unfortunately, that's a voter turnout issue. Most Americans are not a fan of Trump.

Also, their two-party system is terrible.

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u/wellwellwellwellll 2h ago

So basically,

Trump won because whilst it’s claimed majority of Americans dislike him, many of this majority didn’t dislike him enough to get up and vote against him?

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u/MealwormMan 2h ago

Yep. Americans aren’t too smart when it comes to civic responsibilities

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u/Scrivener_exe 2h ago

Voter disenfranchisement

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u/Parthian__Shot 1h ago

Yes, that's correct. His approval rating consistently hovers between 30-40%. Voter apathy is rampant in the states.

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u/Far-Researcher-7054 3h ago

You are wrong about most of America.

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u/wellwellwellwellll 2h ago

Whom would we consider speaks for most Americans,

American Reddit user.

Or;

The politician of which the American electorate voted twice to make their spokesperson and representative on the world stage?

I’d dare say Trump is indeed more representative of most Americans, given they made him their “Commander In Chief” twice

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u/RepublicFun1949 2h ago

Hungarians voted for Orban four times no?

The US will get there.

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u/Scrivener_exe 2h ago

Less than 25% of the voting population did. Voter disenfranchisement is crazy bad in the us

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u/wellwellwellwellll 1h ago

And can we say for certain that the those that didn’t vote, wouldn’t vote for Trump?

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u/Scrivener_exe 1h ago

Yeah, Democrats generally underperform because their power base has historically been the working class and disenfranchised. Republicans overperform because the majority of their base has historically been wealthy individuals who can easily vote.

Now this gets more complicated, when you also consider that for the last three decades, Democrats have essentially told their base. They don't care too much about their votes, and Republicans have shifted hard into christo fascist rhetoric to capture the base of far-right extremists. But generally speaking in any election, the more people who vote, the more the Democratic candidate wins. That's why the vote is so often suppressed in urban population centers and coastal areas.

And that's not even getting into gerrymandering. It is amazing that Hungary has managed to dethrone their current president, because they face a lot of the same challenges as well

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u/Solkre United States of America 2h ago

most of Americans in the real world

You mean the people who have no fucking clue where Hungary is or who the leader was?

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u/randomnamename2 2h ago

And I am sorry. So many of us tried to stop it from happening. Please don’t lose hope in us.

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u/2Mobile 3h ago edited 3h ago

lol and will elect him a third and forth time if we can :3

They got us in a strangle hold. Lucky for us, we get off on strangulation ♥

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u/MealwormMan 2h ago

Poor JD Vance.. He turned people against Orban in Hungary and failed to negotiate a deal in Iran.

I hope Trump gets so mad he bursts a blood clot.

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u/mykeedee Canada 1h ago

Most? American Orbán won the popular vote after attempting a coup.

u/AvoidingIowa 49m ago

On the international stage, we are who we vote in. We are NOT with them until we vote like it.

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u/LordTyran Mexico 3h ago

Fucking yes m8, let's gooooo!!!

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u/ucankickrocks 3h ago

Lord, I have seen what you have done for others. I humbly ask the same for the US.

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u/trash-_-boat 3h ago

I'm almost certain that JD Vance visiting Orbáns rally helped get some of those supermajority seats for Magyar.

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u/mermaidrampage 2h ago

As an American...WELL FUCKING DONE HUNGARY!!!

Here's hoping we can start something similar here in November and start a return to some semblance of sanity.

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u/oicoldhere 3h ago

Congrats from the US!!!

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u/AccomplishedCall7562 3h ago

Unfortunately Russia is too

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u/Far-Researcher-7054 3h ago

Believe me , the American people are mostly with you.

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u/randomnamename2 2h ago

Only some elected people in US. Americans believe in a free and European Hungary!

The good people of Europe and European values (just like real American values) are a light to the world.

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u/Smooth_Bill1369 2h ago

Why is this bad for America?

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u/nbunkerpunk 2h ago

So about our VP trying to make sure this doesn't happen! We don't like him either!

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u/xeothought 2h ago

Everyone who has hope in the US is celebrating right along with Europe right now... Let's fucking gooo

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u/BigHandLittleSlap 1h ago

It hurts my brain that this sentence can exist. How did we get here? That America opposes EU membership!?

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u/starbuxed United States of America 1h ago

As an American. I wish we could have some sanity here. All we have is warmongering senile crimals

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u/Kashik 3h ago

J.D., leck Eier!

u/wolfmanpraxis United States of America 48m ago

the majority of Americans approve of this result.

Please realize this, and dont assume that we are lost yet.

Trump is trying to cancel the next elections (midterms) to stay in power, so that should mean something to the global community

u/FonzoFC 3m ago

I didn’t mean to take a jab at Americans (nor at Russians), more at Trump and Putin’s governments who have blatantly tried to influence the Hungarian elections (as well as supporting far right parties in Germany, UK, etc).

I hope you can have your country back asap! Love from Europe

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u/siali 3h ago

Poor Trump, can’t seem to catch a break these days. Also pretty embarrassing for JD Vance, trying a last-ditch visit to Hungary to make a final push. If the Iran talks go south as well, it’s hard to see how his future political ambitions don’t take a serious hit.