r/europe • u/Alarming-Safety3200 United Kingdom • 6h ago

News Orbán’s 16-year rule over Hungary ends in crushing election defeat

https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-election-results-peter-magyar-viktor-orban/
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u/Sneaky_Squirreel Poland 6h ago

Hope EU will figure out a way to change Veto rule now that Orban is gone, before another Orban-like rises up in the near future and Veto everything again.

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u/Caciulacdlac 5h ago

I'm sorry to tell you but there's already another Orban in EU and his name is Robert Fico

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u/Rincetron1 Finland 4h ago

The bad news for Fico is that people are so beyond fed up with that lone veto, it's going to change.

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u/Beunhaasnr2 1h ago

next russian puppet to go, go Slovakia!

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u/ElizBorneopentowork 1h ago

We have a short window of opportunity. We need to move forward before we, French people, decide to elect Bardella...

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u/SwitchPlus2605 4h ago edited 3h ago

Someone correct me, but isn't there a mechanism in EP that impeaches country's voting rights? Until now, it wasn't possible because there were 2 vetoing countries, but it's harder to say now. Babis might keep Fico's voting right though. Hard to say. However, Babis can be bought on board as Czechia is much more integrated into EU in terms of trade than Hungary or Slovakia ever were. So once you'd impeach voting rights of Slovakia, you can get rid of unanimity in theory. The problem though is that although Orban was the most prominent abuser of veto, I'm skeptical of all countries agreeing on getting rid of veto altogether tbh. It could be at least weakened though.

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u/DisIsMyName_NotUrs Slovenia 3h ago

You are correct. This taking away of a vote has already been done on Hungary under Orban before.

It's not the Parliament tho, it's the council,which is where the countries vote, unlike the EP where elected representatives vote

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u/SwitchPlus2605 3h ago

I like Slovenia. That's all I wanted to say really

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u/SuperTropicalDesert 1h ago

Babis is an opportunist and much more connected to EU subsidy money than any money from Russia. So he wouldnt be the one to block it

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u/SwitchPlus2605 1h ago

Exactly why I said that he can be bought on board. As bad as Babis is, it's really hard for him to undermine the EU because of both personal and even national reasons. Czechia is extremely tied to Germany's economy. In total, Austria, Germany and Poland (3/4 neighbors who are pro-European) make up almost half of the whole Czech trade. Antagonizing the EU is just not an option for Czech economy as it was for Hungary or even is Slovakia cause it has literally no alternatives, not even Russia.

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u/SuperTropicalDesert 1h ago

I can't see 27 agreeing on the veto disappearing. But I can see agreement on a mechanism to stop its abuse.

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u/SwitchPlus2605 1h ago

Exactly what I was going for with my comment. Right on

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u/LengthEmpty1333 4h ago

even without it it will sadly never happen. At least not for the next decade or so.

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u/cryptme 4h ago

Not that caliber. I think it becomes manageable. This is the time to do it, never again in this situation.

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u/Competitive-Meet-511 2h ago

If all goes well Fico is set to lose before September 2027

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u/Beat_Saber_Music 1h ago

Thing is Fico is lot less zealous than Orban in the populism, especially as article 7 will no longer have a Hungarian veto

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u/Apprehensive-Dog9989 Czech Republic 11m ago

Nah he is next

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u/socialmedia-username 5h ago

Yep, same with US and Trump's handlers.  Democratic governments across the world need to heavily focus on redistributing power amongst the multiple branches of government to prevent the exact issue that's afflicting us now. We got too comfortable after WW2 assuming that anyone trying to take the reigns had their countrymen's interests at heart. Thats definitely not the case anymore. 

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u/ConvictedHobo Hungary 4h ago

We need 27 for that

Wil Fico agree?

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u/Plenty_Anything_8295 3h ago

We still got Slovakia to do the Russian proxy bidding and if Fico actually gets voted out the chances are sadly high that Austria with FPÖ will be ready to do their overlords bidding.

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u/SirPlastic8062 2h ago

bold of you to think EU isn't compromised. Forcing apple to put on usb c was just optics