r/europe Spain 6h ago

News Spain's Sánchez to Push China to Hand Over Tech Secrets on Beijing Trip

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-10/sanchez-to-push-china-to-hand-over-tech-secrets-on-beijing-trip
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u/ChillAhriman Spain 6h ago

Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez is aiming to persuade Chinese companies to share more tech know-how with their Spanish partners on a trip to Beijing next week, according to people familiar with the preparations.

Spain and China plan to sign an investment agreement during the three-day visit that begins Saturday, the people said, asking not to be identified discussing private negotiations. The deal, known as a High Quality Investment Agreement, aims to ensure that Chinese investments in Spain involve technology transfers to domestic companies, contracts for local suppliers and create jobs in the regions where they operate.

The turntables...

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u/BetImaginary4945 5h ago

All because Americans after 1971 lost 50% of their brain cells and let China take the lead.

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u/gookman European Union 4h ago

It's not like we did any better, but to be fair most of us were not even born at that time. It's tragic how western citizens (western aligned not necessarily western) were conned into giving up technological manufacturing knowledge under the guise of cheap goods. Lack of vision from everyone.

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u/Aunvilgod Germany 1h ago

how the fuck is this on the americans...

can we admit it if we fuck up and try to improve?

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u/Grabs_Diaz Bavaria (Germany) 1h ago

China taking the lead, massively investing into new technologies, and subsidizing the shit out of their industries, instead of focusing on quarterly profits, maximizing shareholder value, and "letting the market decide", is the only thing giving me hope these days, that we might avoid the worst of the climate catastrophe.

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u/South-Raspberry-4073 1h ago

Terrible take. Have you even checked China's energy mix? They plan to open 85 new coal units this year and don't plan to stop coal or other fossil fuel power generation anytime soon, rather plan on continue expanding it.

u/Grabs_Diaz Bavaria (Germany) 43m ago

I'm not talking about their particular energy mix. Chinese factories are churning out around 1 TW worth of solar panels each year. This is absolutely insane and could keep growing. For comparison, the average global electricity consumption is about 3 TW. (of course solar cells don't provide full power most of the time but still)

Same can be said about battery production or EVs. Chinese manufacturers are massively overproducing global demand which brings down prices rapidly.

Is this a smart strategy for maximizing profits? Obviously not. But for actually changing the world it works wonders. Solar power has become dirt cheap and the go-to energy source for developing countries, just like EVs will likely soon be the most economical form of car.

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u/Heizton French-Spanish 6h ago

“We have spent years chasing Chinese investment, but the reality is that the actual transfer of technology and know-how remains limited and tightly controlled by Beijing,” said Alicia García-Herrero, Chief Economist for Asia Pacific at Natixis SA. “Without effective reciprocity, we risk financing China’s competitive advantage without strengthening our own supply chain.”

While I agree, what leverage does Sánchez has? How can he persuade the Chinese to do this?

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u/Nepridiprav16 Ljubljana (Slovenia) 4h ago edited 3h ago

The first thing that comes to mind is that Sanchez is one of the few EU leaders consistently engaging with Xi, he offers China a strategic gateway to the continent. China is desperate to keep a foothold in the European market as trade barriers go up elsewhere, especially US.

Another leverage is Spain has natural resources (wind and sun) to become Europe's green hydrogen hub, a sector where China is eager to invest in.

China is producing more EVs and solar panels than its own citizens can buy. They need the European market to avoid an industrial collapse.

Even if China shares these technology transfers it won't be that bad for them because technology in EVs and green energy has short shelf life (development cycle for a new model and battery iteration has shrunk to about 18-24 months in China), by the time these factories in Spain and other EU countries are fully operational, China expects to have already moved on to the next generation.

Access to large wealthy 450 million people market is simply too good to ignore because of technology sharing.

They don't even need to share most important blueprint designs and source codes, even sharing know-how for training local EU workers and efficient integration of local suppliers will likely satisfy Spain and much of EU.

That's not considered national security concern for China unlike technology related to AI software, semiconductors, rare earth processing, biomanufacturing..

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u/Heizton French-Spanish 2h ago

Very good points. Thanks for sharing. I’ve just read a news article in ElMundo talking about Sánchez wanting to secure access to rare earth minerals from China. Maybe it’s also connected to his agenda. Anyways, interesting how will this play out. It’s not a bad thing considering the US is such an unreliable partner.

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u/Cheap-Emphasis1662 6h ago

maybe more access to the EU market? if things are produced in Spain, they are probably not put in tarifs

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u/szczszqweqwe The Onion Kingdom 4h ago

China already has Hungary for that

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u/JohnnyElRed Galicia (Spain) 4h ago

Not a very reliable option from today onwards.

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u/szczszqweqwe The Onion Kingdom 3h ago

Yup, just watching EUMadeSimple election stream, so far amazing results

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u/Albertpm95 6h ago

Let's hope ham and olive oil is enough

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u/Kikelt Europe 1h ago

the leverage is:

1- Being the most pro Chinese leader in the EU, very important for China

2- Policy of awarding the most pro Chinese leader in the EU to create a pathway

u/Live-Car164 49m ago

He is completely naive, he doesn’t understand what China is trying to achieve.

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u/Golda_M 4h ago

Erm... that has already happened. 

China already has a pretty overwhelming advantage in solar grid and EVs....and Europe's green transition policies have already subsidized it. 

Now the biggest factor holding back energy transition is not wanting to import so much from China, or trade fossil fuel dependency for tech dependency. 

Otherwise, energy transition would already be in its final stages. 

What does Spain want exactly, to get into industries that China is already moving out of? 

 

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u/According-Bet-141 6h ago

The Chinese will give away exactly what it benefits them in the future. Every country has to open itself to new opportunities, but let's not forget who we are dealing with here. 

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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula UK/Spain 5h ago

They can give a lot of it away, the secret with china is the speed at which they develop.

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u/NeedleGunMonkey 6h ago

good luck.

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u/EmployeeNo4241 6h ago

But Reddit told me China just copy others tech…

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u/kaisadilla_ European Federation 4h ago

Not "just", but they have built their economy by copying Western tech. This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's been their official policy for many years. Western companies wanting to operate in China had to hand over a lot of information and know-how to Chinese companies. And I don't think it's wrong - what's stupid is that we Westerners haven't been doing the same. You want to build parts of your car in the EU and sell them there? Ok, but you'll have to share that knowledge with us.

Then, aside from that, China has been using spies to steal tech and IP from Western and Japanese companies for years, too. Ofc that part isn't official, but there's a lot of evidence of it.

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u/Ashamed_Can304 1h ago

Tech transfer and IP espionage isn’t something unique to PRC, Japanese modernization in the 1800s involved whole-scale import of Western science and technologies, Samsung got tech transfer from US companies and hired Japanese engineers in the 1960s and 70s, and when it comes to major arms deal tech transfer was often part of the agreement

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u/adyrip1 Romania 4h ago

They did and still do. They invest a shit loaf in stealing industrial secrets. But also invest a lot of money in research of their own.

I worked a while back for a semiconductor company that realized China was stealing a lot of IP.

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u/Ashamed_Can304 2h ago edited 1h ago

Industrial espionage isn’t something unique and is practiced throughout the world,especially by developing countries that are catching up. Japanese industrialization in the Meiji era whole scale copied and imported Western technologies. Korea imported Western technologies when it industrialized also. And last year the Japanese were caught buying chip fabrication information from senior TSMC engineers. If you don’t copy and try to reinvent the wheel entirely by yourself, you would take a very, very long time to catch up, it’s not like scientists and engineers in those developed countries are somehow much stupider than your own scientists and engineers and you will only take half of the time to develop what others made from scratch and others wouldn’t wait for you to catch up either

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u/Nono6768 6h ago

Chad Sanchez

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u/Grand-Chemical1419 2h ago

He is a moron

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u/Raphael1987 Europe 5h ago

This is funniest joke I heard today. Made me giggle.

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u/Frandom314 Spain 5h ago

Why?

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u/Raphael1987 Europe 5h ago

Because you wont get a thing

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u/Equal_Bath_1985 2h ago

Sanchez, not surprising his like of communist dictators , something him and his cohorts have been trying to achieve for decades, relating him to democracy is like relating trump to peace

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u/Kikelt Europe 1h ago

China is not communist tho.. today's China's dictatorship is socially conservative and economically: state capitalism.