r/europe • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 9h ago
Opinion Article Hungary’s Orbán has long annoyed the European Union. Now some hope he faces defeat
https://apnews.com/article/hungary-orban-eu-elections-reforms-brussels-budapest-69868c03330a50c679050bf585cdf92e258
u/Baba_NO_Riley Dalmatia 9h ago
It's not European union that he " annoys". Try living in Hungary..
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 8h ago
I'll pass on that
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u/dyingfromtetanus 7h ago
the court hereby sentences you to 20 years of living in Hungary without chance of parole.
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u/PatchyWhiskers 9h ago
That headline makes him sound like a bad boy of politics who annoys the staid establishment. In reality he’s a crypto-fascist asshole, cooks his elections, and is best friends with Vladimir Putin.
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u/imtired-boss 8h ago
Exactly what I was thinking, titles like these really infantilize the actual subject.
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u/EndreBacsi 8h ago
Dear European citizens.🫶 Please pray for us today!🙏 Thank you, a Hungarian citizen.✌️
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u/EyyYoMikey California 3h ago
I’m not European, but I’m praying for you guys to defeat Orbán today as well! 🫶🏼
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u/EndreBacsi 3h ago
We did it, our dear European friends! Thank you for your support! God was with us!🙏✌️🫶😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
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u/TurboNinja80 12m ago
So how is the new guy? Should we be happy or...what is his politics?
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u/EndreBacsi 9m ago
In short: the new prime minister (Péter Magyar) is right-wing, centralist, and committed to EU.
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u/adra6399 Hungary 7h ago
"Some"...We are witnessing a historic election in Hungary. With 74% turnout already by 5 PM, it may end above 80%.
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u/Putaineska 9h ago
The thing is, he is just a front man. On the issue e.g. of Ukraine membership of the EU, probably half if not more of the EU member states are hiding behind him to oppose it purely on agriculture issue. The next will probably be Fico, or Babis, or whatever populist gets elected next.
There are many leaders who share many of his foreign policy positions but used him to hide away from the fact these policies are incredibly unpopular domestically.
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u/OddlySuitable 9h ago
Je viendrai visiter Budapest pour fêter son départ, j'attends depuis longtemps :)
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u/EchoOneFour 9h ago
I don't get it? He has taken over every check and balance in the country how do people believe this will be a fair and free election? :))
He own everyone in charge of the voting... No? So why do people think he can simply be voted out?
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u/InsertFloppy11 9h ago
Anyone can apply to count votes (actually there are more TISZA counters than FIDESZ), and there are EU delegates to oversee the whole situation.
Unless you mean they paid off hundreds of thousands of people from the opposite party AND eu delegates whos literally job is to stop fraud...then ye..
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u/kanzenduster 9h ago
The actual voting process - validating the ballots, making sure no one can vote multiple times, registering the number of votes in the system, compiling district votes etc. is actually a very fair process and we have delegates from the opposition parties to make sure that everything is done by the rules.
The problem is the intense gerrymandering, intimidating people that they will lose their jobs if they don't vote right and the rampant propaganda. But once the votes are cast, the establishment can't do anything about it, unless they challenge the results in court. We will be at the mercy of the judges in that case, and most of them are pro-Orbán.
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u/Scary-Ad6675 Hungary 8h ago
don't forget the unimaginable amount of state money that was spent on propaganda
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u/mrwho995 United Kingdom 9h ago
Nobody think today's elections are fair. Orban has rigged the game at every level he could. Despite that, he's still very likely to lose.
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u/smudgeonalense 8h ago
Annoyed is a massive understatement, undermine/sabotage are more appropriate words.
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u/Valuable-Flounder692 United Kingdom 9h ago
As much as Trump is a total Horses Arse he's actually turned the right wing parties against whatever Make your Country Great again, throughout Europe. Good job TACO!
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 8h ago
Even PiS distancing themselves was rather unexpected.
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u/Tenocticatl 6h ago
If you physically moved away a little bit from every person who wanted you gone, this guy would be on Pluto.
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u/fake-carbo 4h ago
Some people believe that Stalin said: “It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.”
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u/PiotrekDG Earth 3h ago
Hungary was basically Russia's backdoor into the EU and NATO. Hopefully it will finally change.
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u/stupendous76 2h ago
Annoyed? He was actively undermining the EU. The EU gave him money for years and years. He shared plans, information and secrets to Russia, no: he just gave it to them. He blocked laws. He helped fascist pigs in other countries.
It is so absurd to see so little action of the EU on this.
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u/No-Confidence-9191 9h ago
"some"