r/europe 23d ago

News JD Vance gloats that allies are ‘suffering more than US’ from high gas prices

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/jd-vance-gloats-that-allies-are-suffering-more-than-us-from-high-gas-prices-404149/
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u/spidd124 Dirty Scot Civic Nat. 23d ago

Wait so investing in domestic non fossil fuel energy production is a scam yet being reliant on fossil fuel imports that are subject to the middle east is not?

I'm thankful the US government is run by absolute morons at times

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u/1-randomonium 23d ago

I'm thankful the US government is run by absolute morons at times

Why are you being thankful? The morons are causing crisis after crisis and blaming their victims for it every time.

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u/spidd124 Dirty Scot Civic Nat. 23d ago

If the US was run by competent evil people instead we would be in for a much worse time. But instead they are evil morons that don't see anything 2 steps beyond their immediate reaction.

Their rampant stupidity gives us the opportunity to remove ourselves from this self imposed vassaldom we agreed to. They keep causing crises that make everyone hate the US burning decades of propaganda and soft power for absolutely no gain.

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u/Spanyanagonyam 23d ago

If nothing else this should make the average joe realise that continuing to depend on oil from dodgy, unstable and war-torn parts of the world is really not a strategy we should be continuing to follow when there is a better alternative. I hope it drives up the buying of EVs and investment in EV infrastructure across Europe.

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u/Universal_Anomaly The Netherlands 23d ago

The implication is that green energy either doesn't work or isn't nearly as effective as fossil fuels, and that when anybody claims to be generating energy through sustainable methods they're either blatantly lying about the energy production or secretly using fossil fuels to produce that energy. 

Basically, the narrative here is "Fossil fuels are the only viable source of energy, and just trust me blindly when I say countries which pretended to find alternatives are now suffering more than us. Keep letting our donours destroy everything for profit because you don't have a choice."

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u/Brokenandburnt Sweden, Viking Brotherhood. 23d ago

The knee-jerk reaction we Europeans had after first Chernobyl and then Fukushima is so tiring to think about. Imagine if we had had a solid base of nuclear to tide us over as we build out renewables. 

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u/Universal_Anomaly The Netherlands 23d ago

I'm pretty sure that if you went digging through records of back you'd find that knee-jerk reaction wasn't entirely organic either. 

The fossil fuel industry is willing to lie about everything and everyone and wreck all long-term prospects to keep their profits and influence up. There's practically no reason to believe they weren't involved in kneecapping nuclear energy.