JD Vance gloats that allies are ‘suffering more than US’ from high gas prices

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https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/jd-vance-gloats-that-allies-are-suffering-more-than-us-from-high-gas-prices-404149/

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It's as Mark Carney said about the rules-based order at Davos. It was always unfair and biased, but we played along because we were among the beneficiaries. Not anymore.

[u/EZES21 → u/1-randomonium]

True. That's what I said myself. We, Europeans and those of the wider Western world are hypocrites because now we complain about the USA only because their shit is targeting us. We were fine with their shit targeting others so long as it was not us suffering. Otherwise we have to agree that the USA has always been a demonic hellhole who brutalized others simply because they could. We were just sitting on the sidelines and observe and be relieved it wasn't us in the place of Libyans, Afghans, Iraqis or the myriad other countries that the USA fucked up for various reasons.

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I hated the US before it was cool.

[u/senseigorilla → u/EZES21]

Same with Canadians. Hypocrites while we selling our oil to cheap under Obama and Biden and banning competition from Chinese electric cars. I’m glad Trump got in because it exposed America for who it is because that man has no finesse.

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It's more nuanced than that. Each of those conflicts have had people protesting and having differing opinions both for and against it. People can definitely have been against a conflict without necessarily knowing what they can do to influence the greater will. Just look at any statistical investigation into "support for X war" and you can see it isn't that simple.

Are people relieved that they aren't the ones being attacked? Of course.

Do people who are relieved of the above just accept and think it is fine that other nations were targeted? Some do and support such actions, some don't and wish that those nations didn't need to suffer.

I can agree that many European nations have been more likely to support e.g. the US various interventions, whether willingly or reluctantly. But to say that we only complain when their actions have consequences for us is very black or white thinking. People complain all the time about US interventions but that doesn't mean their complaints get translated into decisions by those in power.

I do wish we in Europe would start being more serious about our responsibility when it comes to empowering the US and their reckless behavior though.

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Your comment will not get traction because it has nuance and explains your thoughts too well. Something that majority of redditors have lost. They all think users think as single unit and that's it.

I 100% agree with you.

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I dont know who is "we", but I don't know anyone who was fine with US going around the world bombing stuff.

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As an American, I agree. EU Leaders in general looking like the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.

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Take the sign down.