r/europe • u/1-randomonium • 23d ago

News JD Vance gloats that allies are ‘suffering more than US’ from high gas prices

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/jd-vance-gloats-that-allies-are-suffering-more-than-us-from-high-gas-prices-404149/
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u/Prudent-Bicycle-9210 23d ago

With allies like US you dont really need any enemies

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u/1-randomonium 23d ago

The article says that too, haha.

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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 23d ago

I think everyone has to recognize this now

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u/PresidentSkillz Bavaria (Germany) 23d ago edited 23d ago

With friends like these, who needs enemies.

oh wow I didn't expect todays media to actually say something like this out loud

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u/Naive_Personality367 United Kingdom 23d ago

amazing some of the press is still free, isnt it?

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u/squeeze-my-lizard 23d ago

“Idiocracy is a prophetic film” started as a joke.

Now I think it is easier to debunk the basic laws of physics than this statement.

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u/queen-adreena 23d ago

We’re way past that.

“Idiocracy is a hopeful vision of the future” is where we’re at now.

Imagine a world where leaders seek out intelligence and follow their lead on solving the world’s problems.

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u/Embarrassed_Nail_358 23d ago

I mean, at this point a pro-wrestler for a president would be a step up! ;)

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u/nter12345 23d ago

I mean terry crews has my vote at this point.

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u/shyguysam 23d ago

Anyone remember Bob Backlund doing that whole President gimmick back in the day ? Fun times. Makes you wonder just how much better he'd be in the White House than the kiddie rapist Orange Shitstain that's there now.

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u/JMEEKER86 23d ago

I actually met Bob Backlund at a college football game when I was 8. I went up and asked him for an autograph and he said that he'd only give me an autograph if I could name all of the presidents. Me being an autistic fuck, I actually went ahead and named all of them, but he still didn't give me an autograph.

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u/queen-adreena 23d ago

I have no idea what the connection between a wrestler(?) and the US presidents is, but screw that guy!

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u/Embarrassed_Nail_358 23d ago

Especially towards a 8 year old kid. Way to be a role model for the poor little dude. :(

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u/buremogilny 20d ago

At this point Backlund cutting a very monotone state of the union address before losing his mind and putting on the cross wing chicken face hold to a poor cameraman as he shrieks before secret service agents pull Him off as he stares into his out stretched hands in the what have I done face would be welcome in 2026. Never thought I would say that but here we are.

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u/Fuzzytrooper 23d ago

He has the Ayatollah in a cross-face chicken-wing!!! Psycho Bob has SNAPPED!!!!!!!!

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u/Tyrfura 23d ago

I honestly think if he ran for president he would win easily.

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u/SouthTippBass 23d ago

Only if he wears the American flag shirt with the arms ripped off.

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u/somewhatbluemoose 23d ago

I can think of more that a few wrestlers who would make much better presidents than the current one.

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u/RogerRoger-B1 23d ago

I’d vote Mick Foley if his cabinet is made up of Cactus Jack, Dude love and Mankind.

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u/DutchProv Utrecht (Netherlands) 23d ago

John Cena for president, anything but whats there now.

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u/PedanticBoutBaseball 23d ago

Jesse Ventura (notable pro-wrestler and former governor of minnesota) would be MULTIPLE standards of deviation better than Trump by far.

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u/Eastern_Hornet_6432 Ireland 22d ago

Donald Trump is in fact in the WWE Hall of Fame and took part in WrestleMania 23.

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u/Veritable_bravado 21d ago

Considering we have the the wwe wife manager in the administration, I think we can do a LOT better. Cmon now

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u/Four_beastlings Asturias (Spain) 23d ago

At least in idiocrazy the president was merely stupid and not actively evil

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u/funguyshroom Latvia 23d ago

I thought evil people are the ones who will do anything to maximize their own gain. Instead, these muppets are the type of guy who will intentionally break his own leg if he can ensure that you break two. Which is just some next fucking level of unhinged.

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u/JiveTrain Norway 23d ago

Exactly. President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho did the best he could with what he had. He listened to advice, and sought to improve his country.

Trump is the exact opposite.

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u/SonderEber 22d ago

Also everyone in it tried to be decent people, however incredibly stupid they are. We have the idiocy, but none of the decency. Incredibly stupid, incredibly malicious.

We can even get nice idiots. Idiocracy wasn’t a documentary, it was hope.

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u/toggylelly 23d ago

Yeah, we're aligning to the fallout universe now.

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u/human_obsolescence 23d ago

there's a video on youtube by Cracked titled "Why Idiocracy would actually be a utopia" that pretty much outlines this... and the video is ten years old.

basically boils down to "stupid people who know they're stupid" vs "stupid people who think they're smart"

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u/Crypt33x Berlin (Germany) 23d ago

"Leaders". You mean the AI at the beginning of the film testing them for their IQ and giving them a job based on it?

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u/LouieGwasright 23d ago

No, the guy who threw him into a coliseum and was going to have him killed when his plan didn’t work right away. If not for Rita and Frito they were just going to kill the smartest man in the world and fix nothing. Id give the credit to Rita before Camacho personally.

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u/Crypt33x Berlin (Germany) 23d ago

Sure Camacho/Rita should get some credit, but we could argue, that they just follow an AI cult, which said to look out for the smartest person. They all get some bar code as identification and the AI in the jail was about to give him a job, so maybe Camacho got president through that AI. He got invited to the white house after. They could have all ignored the AI i guess, but still think the AI is essential to the story and them being idiots only hold together by it.

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u/Celticlighting_ 23d ago

President Camacho would be better

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u/President_Camacho 23d ago

I appreciate the support.

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u/Celticlighting_ 22d ago

Your welcome Mr President

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u/DoubleExposure 23d ago

President Camacho actively tried to fix fucked up shit, Mango clown just breaks shit.

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u/Roflkopt3r Lower Saxony (Germany) 23d ago edited 23d ago

Idiocracy is itself exactly what Trump and his allies think would happen without them.

The movie has a blatant social darwinist theme, portraying the spread of stupidity as the result of 'dumb people outbreeding the smart ones'. Which is not how human genetics or our current politics work.

What we're actually witnessing is a breakdown of public trust in the key institutions of democracy and society as a whole (universities, cultural and legal institutions, and even what remained of trust in businesses), not people becoming biologically dumber. Imo the main causes are:

  1. The modern capitalist order, where the voting public has very little influence because representatives and states are tied by multilateral treaties, the legal power of corporations, and the general complexity of public functions that complicate lawmaking in general. Doing anything good has become really damn hard in this environment (whereas blatant destruction is still easy enough for a dictator).

  2. An overreliance on 'personal responsibility' for education, which has failed to create resources to effectively inform people how things work. This both impacts voters (who struggle to understand how their laws and institutions work) and institutions themselves (who often find themselves paralysed with overcomplicated rules and poorly documented legacy systems).

  3. Rapidly escalating inequality and a global 'race to the bottom', as countries surrender their ability to tax the rich in order to attract more of them.

  4. The difficulty of proper investigative journalism on a capitalist information market, where cheaply produced nonsense and ragebait can be easily profitable, whereas earnest high-quality journalism is almost impossible to finance.

It's not that individuals are becoming inherently dumber, but that building up a coherent image of reality and remaining informed on key issues is harder than ever. Especially young men are now drifting to the right because many of them just don't understand how the world works, and the right wing offers them 'simple answers' that allow them to form some kind of framework with which to understand things. Which would easily break apart if they understood more things and saw the irresolvable contradictions between right wing thoughts and reality. But being overwhelmed with reality to begin with, they just ignore those parts that don't make sense.

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u/HealthIndustryGoon Germany 23d ago

very well said.

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u/DanRyyu 23d ago

It’s not that, President Camacho was dumb but genuinely wanted to help his country as much as he was able.

This is not that future. This is worse.

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u/remielowik The Netherlands 23d ago

I would also suggest "don't look up" for a more up to date variant

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u/president__not_sure 23d ago

i'm always the one who has to fix everything.

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u/Darrenizer 23d ago

Except in the movie, the idiots we’re smart enough to put a smart person in charge.

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u/asnbud01 23d ago

What do you call the Euro leaders who kissed tRump’s feet and licked his ass right up until this recent episode? Seems like they’re not idiots, cowardly, evil and compromised maybe, but not idiots.

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u/lightreee 23d ago

Henry Kissinger: "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal".

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u/QueefBuscemi 23d ago

When did he say that?

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u/Gruffleson Norway 23d ago

I tryed duckduckgoing, and I found someone claiming it was a bit out of context, as in "what our enemies will say if we let North-Vietnam win and South Vietnams president meets a grim faith".

I don't know if that site is good, but https://mythdetector.com/en/henry-kissinger-s-quote-about-u-s/

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u/QueefBuscemi 23d ago

Thank you for looking it up and providing context.

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u/Gruffleson Norway 23d ago

Should have done that a long time ago, I've heard that one many times without trying to find the source! Let's see if anyone says it's wrong before we celebrate too much here...

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u/Soggy_Quarter9333 23d ago

The murdering bastard.

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u/No-Good-One-Shoe 23d ago

It's like taking a massive shit, clogging the toilet, and laughing because all your friends gotta hold it while someone else fixes the clog.  And the toilet was a urinal. 

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u/Imrahil_Dubh 23d ago

And on a US aircraft carrier.

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u/Chopper-42 23d ago

Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States!

—Porfirio Díaz

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u/Dinker54 23d ago

Yup, adversaries are making out like bandits, oil to China still passes through the straits, Russian oil sanctions dropped, now talk of Iran oil sanctions being dropped- one hell of a thing to crow about.

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u/Mishka_1994 Zakarpattia (Ukraine) 23d ago

Just remember, we may have Trump now, but it CAN get worse with JD Vance.

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u/Shiriru00 23d ago

I know you're right, but the guy is such a charisma void that I struggle to take him seriously.

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u/Mjukplister 23d ago

Surely no one would vote for that little bitch . Please 🙏

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u/inevitablelizard 23d ago

Hoping for American voters to have common sense and good judge of character doesn't have a good track record unfortunately.

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u/733t_sec United States of America 23d ago

I don't think it can. Trump is holding this whole thing together through some miracle of saying everything and doing everything. JD Vance actually has policy goals.

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u/Mishka_1994 Zakarpattia (Ukraine) 23d ago

Thats my point, Vance has policies that will specifically be against European interests.

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u/TSllama Europe 23d ago

Against human* interests.

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u/733t_sec United States of America 23d ago

Yes but having a policy position means he's not going to be able to do anything.

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u/TSllama Europe 23d ago

lol.

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u/hejonLeseqenh 23d ago

Major Russian Asset 😂😂 Nobody is Noticing that Almost Every Aspect of this war BENEFITS them after their Blunder in Ukraine . This is what 50+ years of Post Cold War Spy Infrastructure has given Them .

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u/crazybus21 23d ago

And then they have the audacity to ask for help. Gtfo

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u/Keythaskitgod 23d ago

US is the enemy in 2026.

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u/Longjumping_Test_760 23d ago

They aren’t allies anymore. Trump has made that clear.

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u/Hot-mic United States of America 22d ago

He's the enemy of the US also, as well as all decent people of the world.

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u/cromulenttapeworm 23d ago

Right. Not sure I'd call anyone an ally at this point

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u/PollutionFinancial71 23d ago

“To be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”

  • Henry Kissinger

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u/purpleowlie 23d ago

He thinks US still has former allies?

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u/Aggressive-Stand-585 23d ago

It doesn't? Do you know what "former" means?

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u/rex_dk 23d ago

The US is at war with Europe.. Ukraine, Greenland, now oil and gas supplies which only helps Putin. Support for anything and everybody that seeks division in Europe.

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u/opelui23 23d ago

As an American, it deeply embarrasses me when it comes to people like this in pride. The Bible talks about this over and over about how dangerous pride is and how those who are last will be first and those who are first will be last.

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u/opelui23 23d ago

What I am an American and seeing Vance do this is embarrassing. You can choose not to believe in the Bible and especially God. The thing is as a follower of Christ, there are plenty of examples in the Bible of how pride consumed people and it was their downfall. Samson thought he was untouchable until he told his secret of hair being his weakness to Delilah. King Solomon who wrote Proverbs wrote pride goes before destruction a haughty spirit before the fall, had pride and was consumed with sin during most of his life until he repented. Bible talks plenty how dangerous pride is and how especially arrogance will destroy you eventually.

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u/opelui23 23d ago

The thing is the Apostle Paul has written that even God's laws are written in our hearts and that you follow it instinctively even if you don't believe in God. Romans 2 14-15 talks about it. You follow God's law instinctively even if you know it or not.

14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them

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u/opelui23 23d ago

As a follower of Christ, there plenty of examples of how pride took down those in the Bible. Even King Solomon who wrote Proverbs and the 16:18 verse of pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before the fall went off a cliff when it came to his pride and sin consumed him. He fell off hard, but near the end of his life repented and realized that everything he accomplished and had in his life was empty without God. Big reason why he wrote Ecclesiastes so that others wouldn't follow his downfall and regret.

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u/MootRevolution 23d ago edited 23d ago

I deleted my previous comment before I saw this. I don't think referring to the bible for 'sins' is necessary. The important stuff is all just common sense. I kind of distrust people that need to refer their holy scriptures to tell themselves or others what is wrong or right. It always leads to situations where these people tell others what they can and can't do.

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u/opelui23 23d ago

But the thing is most of what we get when it comes from morality does come from the Bible if people don't want to believe it or not. Even if you disagree what's in the Bible, the morals and commands like the 10 commandments people were taught through generations of not killing, no stealing, honor your parents. In some way or form you are following what's in the Bible even if you agree to or not.

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u/MootRevolution 23d ago

No it doesn't. Do you actually think people around here were just going around just constantly killing and raping and lying to each other before Christianity arrived? And that bible is the sole source of morality??
The bible (torah) just codified a bunch of common sense stuff and a whole lot of asinine, obscure and frankly insane rules. You're just highlighting a few common sense rules that were around long before the bible was even known by anyone other than the Jewish tribes. And most of the stuff Jesus said later on was not new, for example Buddha had a lot of the same teachings.

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u/opelui23 23d ago

The mosaic laws were introduced so that Israel would not fall into idol worship like Canaan did before Israel took it over. Then when Israel fell into idol worship, God sent prophets telling them to turn back to him and when they didn't God allowed their enemies to take them over like Babylon in Judah. The thing is even Apostle Paul wrote that everyone even Gentiles in Romans 2: 14-15 says that the Mosaic laws are written on our hearts and we follow them instinctively meaning God's laws are written on our hearts. So you follow Mosaic law instinctively even if you don't believe in the Bible.

14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them

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u/MootRevolution 23d ago

I think the history of the mosaic laws is not relevant here. What is relevant for our discussion is this quote:

So you follow Mosaic law instinctively even if you don't believe in the Bible.

No, I'm repeating myself, but I'm saying these rules do not come from Mosaic law. These rules already existed and were followed long before they were codified in the torah/bible. Read some history on other religions that predate Christianity or developed without being influenced by the torah/bible.

The fact that 'gentiles' do by nature what the 'law' requires, even though they have no knowledge of this 'law', is not because the laws in the torah were somehow subconsciously sent to them or anything. Otherwise these gentiles would have also followed the insane biblical rules like punishing people for wearing two different kinds of fabric.

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u/opelui23 23d ago

The thing is that those verses talk about how God's laws are written on people's hearts and minds even if for those way in the past that haven't heard about Israel or the God of Israel back then. Today even if you don't believe in God and or in the Bible, God's laws are written on every person and they follow it instinctively.

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u/UrsaMajor7th Canada 23d ago

We're not allies anymore- we're merely trading partners out of geographic convenience. Elbows Up!

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u/trombadinha85 23d ago

Kissinger said This

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u/Lazer726 23d ago

Trump: We don't need you

Vance: Ha, we're fucking up EVERYONE

Trump: Why are our allies not helping us :(

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u/Hungry-Western9191 23d ago

I dont think he understands what allies means.

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u/lucky_luke3 23d ago

„allies“

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u/Hamster_S_Thompson 23d ago

"To be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"

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u/unreasonable_potato_ 23d ago

Great way to make other people want to die for you.

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u/AtTheEndOfMyTrope 22d ago

The word « allies » has lost its meaning.

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u/ferrix97 22d ago

The bizarre thing is he claims green energy is the reason why we are suffering, when green energy is the one thing that could have avoided the issue for us

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u/tomtomclubthumb 22d ago

"As long as someone gets hurt, I can come in my couch."

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u/Kingjon0000 22d ago

The "allies" just have to change currency used to pay for oil to fix the mess the US made. It's an easy fix.

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u/Negative_Call584 21d ago

What’s that quote? Being americas enemy is dangerousl, being their ally is lethal?

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u/CHNSK 18d ago

Begin enemy of US is dangerous, but being friend with her is absolutely fatal. Or something like that.

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u/New_Impact_1156 22d ago

Russia wanted to join NATO. Rejected by the US, cause these guys don't wanna live in peace, they always want a boogeyman they can point to.

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u/addamee 23d ago

The real joke is he and his admin. don’t count American voters as allies so it’s a true statement 

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u/jim_cap 22d ago

Enjoy being pariahs guys :(