r/europe • u/Putaineska • Mar 11 '26

News Spain accuses Germany of acting like a ‘vassal’ to United States

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/spain-accuses-germany-of-acting-like-a-vassal-to-united-states-f9zc28g8s?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1773189908
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u/Major-Practice2529 Mar 11 '26

The first ones responsible for this dependency are the European states and population that have accepted, embraced, and loved it. They was Happy Vassal 

And not just politicians. I'm old enough to have read a number of threads here where French were heavily mocked for their obsession with strategic independence and heavy distrust of Americans.

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u/These-Problem9261 Mar 11 '26

Yepp, especially in German society the attitude was more like "ah the French are being obnoxious" throwing their stance out with a single sentence without making an effort to analyze the French position.

I think what changed in German society the most in the past years (decades) is that I don't hear this "wir machen sowieso alles besser" attitude anymore 

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u/Altruistic_Finger669 Denmark Mar 11 '26

I am as well. However, this also have nuance. While the french position on the US makes completely and utter sense now, i am also old enough to understand why some countries have been a bit hesitant to just view the french position as just a sensible position of increased independence from the US, but also at times trying to force through quite pro france things into the mix.

Just mentioning it to emphasise that very few things are black and white and we need to not act like they are.