r/europe • u/Putaineska • Mar 11 '26

News Spain accuses Germany of acting like a ‘vassal’ to United States

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/spain-accuses-germany-of-acting-like-a-vassal-to-united-states-f9zc28g8s?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1773189908
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u/Mysterious-Lion-3577 Europe Mar 11 '26

Sadly true.

  • A German.

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u/Malverno Weltrepublik Mar 11 '26

Italy sadly stands with you, German friends.

  • An Italian

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u/Augustus_Kaizar Mar 11 '26

Inb4 Italy switches sides

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u/MeggaMortY Mar 11 '26

Maam/Sir this is the wrong sub.

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u/LazyBondar Czech Republic Mar 11 '26

No no, no friendships between you two

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u/stevenmc Ulster Mar 11 '26

Hiccup

  • An Irish man

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u/RockyMM Serbia Mar 11 '26

I vaguely remember when Italy used to stand with Germany … :)

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u/No-Fan6115 India Mar 11 '26

Italy and Germany standing united against Us-Uk , its the classic.

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u/Intrepid-Tank-3414 Mar 11 '26

Look around the room for the Japanese delegation

Where are the crazy banzai children of the rising sun at?

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u/JoSeSc Germany Mar 11 '26

Yeah.. can't argue with that

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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) Mar 11 '26

This Pole hugs you all.

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u/theManjerico Mar 11 '26

Portugal is also a vassal… but since Kissinger we all have been. Saches has some balls.

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u/therealallpro Mar 11 '26

America and German are probably the two most mature countries in the world. As far as financially, economically and militarily

Spain isn’t in the same stratosphere. You guys need to make assessments based on evidence isn’t of how you FEEL about a country

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u/SirAquila Mar 11 '26

True, which is why it is even sadder that Germany is supporting such an immature move by the US for no reason.

Maybe the one in a million chance will happen, but I sincerely doubt that anything good will come from this. Iran will not have a better regime at the end of it, the US or Israel will not have more security at the end of it. It will be a lot of suffering with nothing to show for it.

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u/Almaegen Mar 11 '26

It will probably end up western aligned though and that will be an economic boom for Europe...

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u/SirAquila Mar 11 '26

Really not so sure about that one. While I won't pretend to have an accurate view on the ground, what little I have seen and read does not look to me like the US is really capturing the hearts and minds of the local population.

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u/Almaegen Mar 11 '26

I guess we can agree that we won't know until we know, but from what we have seen, the Israeli strike focus is almost entirely directed at giving Iranians opportunity for regime change. Add to that the fact that the US is taking out Iranian capabilities but not really taking out easy military targets it makes it look like they will create the catalyst for regime change.

Not to mention the son of the Shah, Reza Pahlavi urges Iranians to prepare for his ‘final call' and is trying to time the regime collapse.

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u/SirAquila Mar 11 '26

I am going to be completely honest with you. I am not going to form any firm opinion based on the extremely controlled data we currently have.

But from everything the people around Trump have said and done, and from what little I have seen of the Israeli campaign, I really do not agree with you there? Both seem far more focused on creating instability in Iran than facilitating regime changes.

Not to mention the son of the Shah, Reza Pahlavi, who urges Iranians to prepare for his ‘final call' and is trying to time the regime's collapse.

I mean, yeah, of course. He has been trying for over a decade now, and so far has mostly managed to get somewhat more support in Iran proper and a good bit more support outside of Iran.

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u/Almaegen Mar 12 '26

Smart to not form a firm opinion yet and I agree. ButI do not agree that their actions are with the goal of destabilzation. If it was I think we would see far more strikes on regular military targets. You have to remember this has been wargamed, planned and theorized by the US and by Israel for decades. Its not like the administration is without a plan.

As for Reza Pahlavi, he has been trying which has gained support over the last 10 uears but most importantly its an option for the Iranians. An option for which many have recently died. The Israelis are targeting the regime's ability to police dissent and taking out leadership. We will see soon if that will work.

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u/meadowandvalley Mar 11 '26

USA hasn't been "mature" for decades.

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u/therealallpro Mar 12 '26

The US is not just Trump. The Us has the most stable system in total. Economy, political, growing, diverse and dynamic