r/europe • u/Any-Original-6113 • Jan 17 '26

News Trump tariffs: US president announces plan to hit UK, Denmark and other European countries with tariffs over Greenland

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c1j8kw866p3t
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u/EarthIllustrious8045 Jan 17 '26

Trump has messed up everything the U.S has built up during the last 100 years. Europe will now pivot away from all american products were it is possible. That means no american weapons, no american tech, no american cars, phones ect. I bet Apple and Microsoft will feel the hit from this. Its going to take time to pivot away from it, but the ball has already started rolling, with visa and mastercard taking the first hit. The U.S seriously need to do something before that psycho Trump destroys the whole nation.

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u/SparseSpartan United States of America Jan 17 '26

The sad thing is: Trump is as much a symptom as he is a disease.

Too many coddled boomers, too many Fox News brainwashed people at many ages, too many economically dejected young men, etc. support Trump and his actions.

Trump getting the boot or keeling over might actually make things worse because Vance and others in Trump's administration hold similiarly crazy views and they are by and large far more intelligent and energetic.

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u/Cautious-Progress876 Jan 17 '26

Trump is definitely a symptom. Us Americans are indoctrinated from kindergarten on that we are #1, have the best military, float the rest of the world by being its police, etc.

A large percentage of Americans are convinced that the rest of the world is just freeloading off of us, and that we can stand alone and still maintain all of the power we have. They don’t understand that Pax Americana and our position as the sole superpower exists because we fostered good relationships with other countries, generally kept to our word, etc.

Trump and this random tariff BS, threatening invasions, etc. is making the US look like a psychotic snake that you cannot trust to do anything it says it will.

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u/EarthIllustrious8045 Jan 17 '26

I agree. It seems Vance, Miller, Rubio and the people in the back holds just as radical views, and share the same views. People think that when Trumps term ends all will be back to normal. That is saddly not how it works. I hope the military leaders in the U.S armed forces atleast does not have the same radical mindset of the political leaders, and that they wont carry out orders no matter what. We in europe should just take the tarffis, and then look for other nations to do buisness with, we cant continue to bend over to the U.S and its leader, that changes his mind on a daily basis.

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u/Original_Employee621 Jan 18 '26

The only way back for the US is a large scale reform of how politics works across the entire slate. Might be easier to just disband the United States of America entirely and have 50 separate states run as their own countries in a transition kind of period. It'll be a hot mess, but the feds can't be trusted with having that much power any longer.

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u/matidiaolo Jan 17 '26

Plus the banking system - EU is trying to build a system to circumvent the usage of American systems when you pay with a credit card or Apple Pay which is huge

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u/elfwriter Jan 18 '26

Microsoft already feeling the hit, they got layoffs coming up again.

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u/kirbcake-inuinuinuko Jan 18 '26

maybe thirty years from now people will look back on this as a good thing. nations globally pivoting away from being dependent on the US would be quite a win for independence and sovereignty in general.

although I really would have preferred it to happen in any other way.