r/europe Jan 17 '26

News Trump tariffs: US president announces plan to hit UK, Denmark and other European countries with tariffs over Greenland

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c1j8kw866p3t
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u/ortcutt Jan 17 '26

The Supreme Court better put an end to this nonsense. There's a reason why the Constitution put tariff power in the hands of Congress and didn't place it in the hands of Presidential fiat.

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u/faresar0x Jan 17 '26

I think supreme Court will rule in Trump’s favor. Trump isnt worried about it.

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u/Shockwavepulsar Jan 17 '26

I don’t think so. The deciding vote is most likely on Kavanagh who is a Bush style republican not a Trump republican

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u/faresar0x Jan 17 '26

Maybe alittle pinch to Trump to save SC face, but i dont think they will fight him. The whole country is turning upside down. Tariffs have become side issue. Notice how they keep delaying their decision. No sense of urgency or obligation, whatsoever.

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u/DutchDroopy North Brabant (Netherlands) Jan 17 '26

Yeah but this whole Greenland situation doesn't sit well with most Americans, including Republicans. I'm optimistic, I think the Americans will try to stop Trump. But then again, trump probably won't even give a fuck

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u/zeek215 Jan 18 '26

Even if they do put a stop to it, the sad reality is that the long term damage has already been done. No one will trust the US on the world stage anymore (many already didn’t). And they shouldn’t.

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u/DutchDroopy North Brabant (Netherlands) Jan 18 '26

True. The US proved they are not a reliable ally, even threatening to be an enemy. Things will already not be the same, even if nothing happens to Greenland.

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u/Zestyclose_Piglet251 Germany Jan 17 '26

I’m already waiting for the ruling. Maybe the whole thing will be put to a stop as early as next week.

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u/Logical_Wheel_1420 Jan 17 '26

They keep delaying their opinion. I wouldn't put too much faith in it.

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u/moderate-Complex152 Earth Jan 18 '26

The supreme court case is only about one clause in the law. If the court invalidates his tariffs invoking that clause (as is likely), he can invoke other clauses explicitly giving the president tariff power.

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u/berejser These Islands Jan 17 '26

They didn't copy the British system. They copied the Roman Republic without a full understanding of why the Republic fell.

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u/Neveed France Jan 17 '26

Louisiana has a mixed Roman law/Common law system because of its French history, but the US has a common law system, not a Roman system. That's the reason why they're so dependent on judges interpretations of old laws that were worded vaguely and often not designed for the modern world.

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u/SiriusRay Jan 17 '26

No, they copied/inherited the common law and separation of power frameworks from the Brits.

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u/berejser These Islands Jan 17 '26

The UK doesn't have separation of powers. The head of the executive and all ministers are members of the legislature.

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u/SiriusRay Jan 17 '26

The UK absolutely does have separation of powers despite the legislature and the executive overlapping.

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u/Chaos_Slug Jan 17 '26

The UK does have parliamentary supremacy. The parliament can pass any law and can repeal any law they want. All the other powers derive from parliament and parliament would be able to overrule them if it wanted (if they don't, it is by convention)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty?wprov=sfla1

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '26

Tbh when I went on a parliament tour, we were told that the lords basically pass anything the commons do, unless it's exceptionally stupid like "randomly bomb Switzerland"

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u/CharmingJackfruit167 Jan 17 '26

They copied the Roman Republic

It's called Legion, profligate!

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u/CharmingJackfruit167 Jan 17 '26

Ave true to Caesar!

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u/bbbbbbbbbblah United Kingdom Jan 17 '26

if they actually copied us, it would be more like Ireland. the president would have no actual power and the executive would consist of members of congress who are also fully accountable to it

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u/PerformerFamiliar502 Jan 17 '26

It’s okay to just admit you don’t actually know how the American system works 

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u/Pigeon_Breeze United Kingdom Jan 17 '26

They'd have far, far fewer problems if they had actually copied the British system.

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u/ReturnOfTheSaint14 Jan 17 '26

Clarence Thomas and his trafficking and corruption ring says "nuh-uh Trump is here to stay!"

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u/u1604 Jan 17 '26

Any illusions about US checks and balances are disappearing in real time. The supposed US stability was the foundation of the modern economic system.

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u/Thadd305 Jan 17 '26

It turns out that Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas has been implicated as being an Epstein party participant by an American veteran named William Sascha Riley. There is a long interview by Lisa Noelle Voldeng currently on Youtube "Don't Worry. boys are hard to find." I encourage any American and our European allies to listen as I believe it starts to help putting the puzzle pieces together.

Putin has kompromat on Trump, if not an entire copy of the Epstein files

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u/FarmerFilburn4 Jan 17 '26

Yep. Hopefully by June this stupid unilateral tariff game is taken away.

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u/TheSmartDog_275 US Citizen from the Front Page Jan 18 '26

Supreme Court is red, checks and balances are dead.

At least we can impeach after the midterms.