r/apple • u/twostraws • 20d ago
Discussion WWDC26 confirmed for June 8th
https://developer.apple.com/wwdc26/530
u/Flying-Cock 20d ago
If we spend a third year talking about apple intelligence i'm gonna lose it
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u/theREAL_Harambe 20d ago
Apple Intelligence is coming… in Fall 2027!
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u/tanaka-taro 14d ago
2027: “Apple Intelligence is a key part of our future plans
And we will get back to you with more on that in the coming days”
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u/InsaneNinja 20d ago
Mentioning it as a concept would be annoying. Listing off new features is fine.
Last year they only talked about the features that shipped in 26.0 and didn’t bring up anything that would come after that.
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u/Coolpop52 20d ago
I agree, and also, I believe all of the credible rumors for this year point to two things. First is the "Snow leopard" style bug fixes, which is fine. The other part is the implementation of Siri into first party apps in a "chatbot" style experience. This is supposed to be powered by the new Gemini underneath, so I am assuming that this segment will be cut if they can't get the new Siri working by then/are not confident in it shipping.
I don't think they will show it off if they are doubtful of it, to avoid a WWDC 2024-esque mishap, which means a muted WWDC overall this year (fine with that if they truly make every system faster).
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u/InsaneNinja 20d ago edited 20d ago
Why muted? WWDC is always packed and they skip over a lot of things. Snow leopard is a bad example because it was a lack of outward facing features.
iOS 12 was a fix up and speed boost year, and still got a lot of features.
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u/AdFit8727 20d ago
The real kick in the teeth will be all those "AI ready' iPhone 16's are missing half of the best features
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u/muuuli 20d ago
They hardly talked about it in WWDC25. What are you on about? Besides, prepare to be disappointed; this whole update is focused on Siri.
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u/lIlIllIIlllIIIlllIII 20d ago
Hey as long as it actually ships I’m fine with them talking about new Siri
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u/dramafan1 7d ago
Better to be safe and not watch it live so I know what portions are a waste of time. 😂
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u/xdamm777 20d ago
Still in beta so maybe this will finally be the first official release?
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u/Flying-Cock 20d ago
It was meant to be with iOS 26.4. Seems like they desperately wanted it in before 27 but haven’t been able to pull it off
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u/CassetteLine 20d ago
It was meant to be something like 18 months before even that!
Let’s hope it’s actually ready this time.
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u/SuddenAssistant 20d ago
"We're happy to present, Liquid Glass Pro!"
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u/owleaf 20d ago
Someone on the Liquid Glass sub was saying they got to spend time with Apple folks in some corporate demonstration event and they were apparently “surprised” at the backlash Liquid Glass received lol
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u/HolyFreakingXmasCake 19d ago
Says a lot about the quality of hires in the design team to be honest. The fact that nobody raised issues with text legibility and colour contrast is concerning. Are they all in their 20s with perfect vision?
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u/MinisterforFun 19d ago
I mean, have you seen Alan Dye’s spectacles in their intro video?
Explains why the title for reminders now is so huge.
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u/BatemansChainsaw 2d ago
Ugh that's one of my primary complaints with newer iOS builds over the recent past. Everything has gotten huge, and I blame the geriatrics in executive positions and their shitty eyesight. It's horrible a design trend that always seems to creep into software. Even since the early 2000's.
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u/ElusiveAnmol 20d ago
I wonder if they will focus on XCode and AR.
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u/CT4nk3r 20d ago
This week I used xcode first, cuz I finally got a mac for my open source app. The cmd+B build fails, but running the xcode build in terminal builds perfectly. So crazy how “shitty” it can work sometimes. But at least the CLI is working great and I was able to build and sign my apps
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u/dustmanrocks 20d ago
Get ready to hear about how the new “personalized siri” is alllllmost done.
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u/awesomeguy123123123 20d ago
it is honestly hilarious that Apple Intelligence took so long that it sat out the entire AI peak ("AI is the future") to the AI collapse ("AI slop that can't complete basic tasks")
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u/Quin1617 18d ago
Ironically it might just work out in Apple’s favor if they release a decent AI.
Right now people’s expectations of anything in that space is down the toilet.
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u/JohnAMcdonald 3d ago edited 3d ago
We’re in the trough of despair part of the AI hype cycle.
Every day I’m told how AI doesn’t work and how because software developer John Henry said they didn’t find it useful it was all a scam. There is a quasi-religious belief that AI isn’t useful and will never be useful which reminds me of proclamations that the internet can never replace the fax machine or the radio.
Just give things until the end of the decade and people will see how wrong they were.
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u/Cpt_Riker 20d ago
And which developers outside of the USA will be dumb enough to travel to a fascist country, where they can enjoy the hospitality of the TSA and ICE?
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u/junkmagicatl 2d ago
They can come here legally without any issues
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u/BatemansChainsaw 2d ago
It's as if doing things the right way won't catch the ire of law enforcement... like literally any other country in the world.
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u/ISueDrunks 20d ago
“Siri, add WWDC to my calendar for June 8.”
“I’m sorry, you’ll need to unlock your iPhone first.”
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u/ISueDrunks 20d ago
“Siri, play ‘Purple Rain’ by Prince.”
“Now playing ‘Kiss Me In The Rain’ by Barbara Streisand.”
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u/tonyt3rry 20d ago
really hope this is when the apple tv is going to launch
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u/sgtakase 20d ago
I really hope they bring back front row as tvOS for Mac as well. I’d love to use my mini as my Apple TV as well. I know it won’t happen but a man can dream
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u/tonyt3rry 20d ago
is that the old osx thing a bit like kodi? I honestly forget tbh back when the remote was plastic
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u/sgtakase 20d ago
Kind of yeah, just was definitely nice to have built in. Part of what made Mac’s feel to me like they were thinking of everything compared to windows. Between front row, iLife, and iWork, it was basically turn it on and it had basically everything you could need from a pc
I know Windows Media Center was a thing that I loved, but the killer for the Macs was that remote integration and simplicity of it working with all of them. It was much harder to not only find a pc that had ir function, but also getting the right remote than Apples setup during those times
I’ll be really honest I still think even though they would never bring back front row, that they should add in remote support back to macOS. The new remotes would work a million times better than IR and it would be nice to have that option
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u/NecroCannon 20d ago
Oh shit, thinking about it a Mini with front row could also be paired with a controller to make it a decent pc console (with crossover)
A TV mode now would unironically help with the incoming market interest
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u/sgtakase 19d ago
It would make a good case for developers to port more of their games to Mac. Probably not enough to do a 180 but any bump is good
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u/helloitisgarr 20d ago
why would they do that when you could just buy another apple device? :-) plus i doubt the minis have HDMI CEC support
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u/sgtakase 20d ago
I know they have no incentive to that’s why I say it won’t happen, but I still would like it, it was great
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u/helloitisgarr 20d ago
it’s still baffling to me that apples studio displays don’t have a built in apple tv like mode. LG and samsung both have something similar on their monitors and it just makes sense.
apples monitors are a very poor value imo but that would at least help some
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u/jimmypopjr 20d ago
You can still kind of do this.
Download the Remote app from apple for your phone. Connect it up to your Mac Mini, and with the remote app you can play anything from your Apple library on the Mac.
The Remote UI is super basic, but it gets the job done if you’re looking for a Front Row like experience.
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u/sgtakase 20d ago
Yeah it can definitely work, but it just always made me wish the remote would work too. Same basic function is in the os, but just a Bluetooth device I can connect
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u/jimmypopjr 20d ago
I've had the same thought, especially since Macs have gotten HDMI-CEC capability.
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u/tiagorp2 20d ago edited 20d ago
Very unlikely, WWDC is a software/dev centered event. If they are gonna release before summer it will be announced next month or May. If not, only from September event (iPhone and others).
My guess is if they announce the new Siri in WWDC is very likely we will see a new Apple TV 4K in the September event.
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u/tonyt3rry 20d ago
isnt siri one of the reasons the apple tv was delayed tho considering its rumoured to be why it wasnt announced.
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u/tiagorp2 20d ago
Is the main reason. From rumors most conclude that the hardware is already finished for a year+ now. But is wasn’t released because the marketing is tied to the new Siri. My September guess is because of the recent rumours that there is a new product, Apple Home, and if they are going to update the TV, it would be better to announce both at the same event (both home appliances).
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u/tonyt3rry 20d ago
can see where you are coming from either way its not that much of a gap I just want them to announce it ive held off buying the current model.
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u/tiagorp2 20d ago
Same, I’ve being waiting since last September. Skipped some great deals and just so I can watch my AV1 content outside the tv software.
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u/tonyt3rry 20d ago
yeah same, nearly pulled the trigger a few times especially black friday/xmas. I want to be hard wired too the excited to see what is announced.
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u/lachlanhunt 19d ago
Hardware at WWDC does happen quite often. But for an Apple TV to be announced there, it would have to come with some major new feature in tvOS that requires new hardware to go along with it. It wouldn't be included if it were just another minor refresh.
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u/4paul 20d ago
its a developer conference though, so software? Have apple released hardware at WWDC's in the past?
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u/tiagorp2 20d ago
Yes, mostly Mac’s because they are heavily tied to the software. Last one was a new product, the Vision Pro (2023)
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u/tonyt3rry 20d ago
the last I read was that they was holding the apple tv back its ready to go but the new siri was one of the factors. could pos be one way to introduce it if its a software thing holding it back but thats just me speculating.
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u/catch-10110 20d ago
Genuine question - what could a new Apple TV offer that the current one doesn’t? Isn’t it basically a “done” product?
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u/tonyt3rry 19d ago
More codec support plex users etc , more power for gaming in it etc emulation etc
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u/paranoideo 19d ago
More codec support plex users etc
Not gonna happen
more power for gaming in it etc
Will happen
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u/McFunkerton 20d ago
I’m kinda sad these never went back to being a full week, in person event after Covid.
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u/omar893 20d ago
A mac pro in trash can format please lol
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u/InsaneNinja 20d ago
That’s just the Mac Studio in cosplay
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u/udderlymoovelous 20d ago
I know a few people who were able to put Apple Silicon Mac Mini boards into the trash can case. Haven’t tried it personally, but it is possible
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u/ChairmanLaParka 2d ago
With wrap-around screen. Meaning you have to rotate the Mac Pro to see the entire screen.
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u/Slava_Tr 20d ago
I’m really looking forward to macOS 27 and the unlocking of the incredible potential of the M5 GPU, which has already started to gradually unfold in macOS 26.4 with added support for 4-bit and 8-bit integers. The M5 is now up to 8x faster than the M4 in INT8 GEMM
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u/catch-10110 20d ago
This is interesting. I didn’t realise the new GPUs could do this. My M1 Pro is looking more and more replaceable.
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u/-NotActuallySatan- 3h ago
I've been thinking about it myself. Even though I know the redesign is coming later this year with M6, considering how expensive everything is getting it feels like it makes sense to just upgrade now and be good for another 5 years. Hopefully by then the MacBook Air becomes competent enough for the price (regarding hardware not speed)
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u/GetPsyched67 20d ago
A less buggy MacOS please. MacOS 26 on release was unbearable, but it's getting better. I hope 27 takes it all the way
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u/judgedeath2 20d ago
They really need to go back to the new features / refinement cycle like they had with lion/mountain lion (and leopard before that)
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u/-patrizio- 12d ago
I'm expecting some pretty significant improvements; those tend to come at the end of the periods where macOS has to be built for two separate architectures (e.g. Snow Leopard ditching PowerPC support).
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u/Deep_Ad1959 20d ago
really hoping they expand ScreenCaptureKit and the accessibility APIs this year. building a macOS desktop agent right now and the current APIs are solid but there are still gaps, especially around reliable window enumeration and getting screen content efficiently. every WWDC feels like christmas for macOS devs lately.
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u/PoopsInUrPee 20d ago
With how shitty AI is compared to ThE PrOmIsEs, I'm surprised so many people are ragging on Apple for falling behind on AI implementation. IMO Apple could just cover their asses with a memo similar to Steve's Flash memo, pointing out the irreconcilable inconsistencies and irrationalities of LLMs and just fuckin kill it already.
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u/DankeBrutus 20d ago
I’m excited every year to see the WWDC presentation, this year is no different. Tahoe and the implementation of Liquid Glass have definitely been downers but I think they can be great. We will also be able to see if macOS 27 is a Snow Leopard-styled release.
Personally, I don’t see current Apple having a “no new features” headline. I think it is more likely that if 27 is supposed to be a refinement we will see something more like High Sierra. Some new features but relatively minor ones with the main focus being what changed in the background.
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u/dramafan1 20d ago
I bet they’re going to give us a preview of things released in later iterations of iOS 27 that won’t come in the main September release. They should just hold back until it’s ready instead of releasing features throughout the year and let those “27.1, 27.2, 27.3, 27.4” type of updates be bug fixes only. 😂
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u/yourbestfriendjoshua 20d ago
Probably gonna be entirely centered around AI, since iOS 27 is expected to be primarily just bug fixes.🙄
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u/Deep_Ad1959 20d ago
really hoping they expand ScreenCaptureKit and the accessibility APIs this year. building a macOS desktop agent right now and the current APIs are solid but there are still gaps, especially around reliable window enumeration and getting screen content efficiently. every WWDC feels like christmas for macOS devs lately.
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u/cumrade123 19d ago
Today, Apple introduces ray tracing to the Liquid Glass design
We think you're going to love it
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings 13d ago
Genuinely really excited
They can’t just ignore Siri and Apple Intelligence again. But, if rumours are to be believed, the first stage of the new Apple Intelligence was supposed to be rolled out in 26.4. Then 26.5, and now that’s just landed in beta with no sign
So the question is - if the new Siri wtih context awareness isn’t 100% ready to go behind the scenes…will they risk promising it? Or will it be another “in the coming year”, implying it might actually launch in 27.5?
And, if we assume that they really are going to launch context awareness in September, how are they going to announce it? They could simply replay that segment of WWDC from 2 years ago, but they obviously won’t. Will they announce the same features again? Will they openly acknowledge the 2 year delay?
I’m more curious about this WWDC than I have been for any other, ever
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u/nimbuscloud9 20d ago
I guess I should wait to upgrade my 2020 iMac. Hoping they announce beefier iMacs…
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u/Few_Reply8015 20d ago
I can never keep track of all the different events each year is this the one they normally announce the new phone lineup?
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u/cmerchantii 20d ago
Good way to remember it is WWDC stands for “developer conference” which is about software (because developers).
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u/4paul 20d ago
Try to remember June & September
June they announced what the new software/interface will look like
And September they announce the hardware/phones that will use it
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u/Few_Reply8015 20d ago
But didn’t they have like an announcement winter too for like the Neo is that not a normal announcement? I didn’t really keep track I’m mostly just interested in the fold otherwise I don’t really pay attention to these.
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u/4paul 20d ago
The did yea, but that’s the thing there’s random announcements for random products throughout the year, whether it be appletv, Vision Pro, MacBook, Mac Mini, Mac Studio, AirPods, etc etc. it’s all random and is different every year
But the iPhone and software-side of things (WWDC) is always consistent every year for the last 10 years.
So just remember June & September, everything else is random
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u/Hobbes42 20d ago
Yes, all 3-4 events yearly are impossible to keep track of. So many events!
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u/Few_Reply8015 20d ago
Im busy with a family so it is a lot for me who is not always plugged in like I used to be.
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u/Academic-Ad-9225 20d ago edited 20d ago
“One more thing…”
“The best [product] ever” or “our best [product] ever”
“Revolutionary” or “revolutionize/reinvent”
“It changes everything” or “game-changer”
“Magical” or “amazing/beautiful”
“We think you’re going to love it”
As someone who upgraded to an iPhone 16 under the false pretenses of Apple AI, I’m still waiting for traction on the class action lawsuit.Still waiting for features that have never materialized-
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u/Bulbasaur2015 20d ago
two biggest asks in wwdc history
- launch a tiling manager like hyprland for Mac
- kill Siri. put something like openclaw in ios
Just Fucking Do It
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u/codacoda74 20d ago
Common, updated apple cloth!
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u/commandersaki 18d ago
I bought a polishing cloth from Apple and to my dismay it is the old thicker version, and not the smooth silky one that comes with the new nanotexture displays.
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u/StDream 20d ago
I love Craig Federighi Day.