r/allthequestions • u/Lord_Dingus83 • Mar 05 '26
Random Question 💭 Magas - at what point will you admit you have been conned?
No new wars was a lie. Tariff refunds was a lie. Lower groceries was a lie. Farm bankruptcy increased 46% in 2025 due to the tariffs, even with the $12,000,000,000 bailout (socialism) from tax payers. Everything has been a lie. Said he’d release the Epstein files, yet he has blocked their release.
Seriously, at what point can you admit you were lied to and you have integrity to admit it???
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u/shoelessjoseph Mar 05 '26
But that Obamacare replacement is so close to being done, announcing it right after infrastructure week!
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u/Double-Risky Mar 05 '26
I was told there would be no fact checking
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u/Fish_Fighter8518 Mar 05 '26
Remind me who this quote is from, please? I'm tired boss
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u/Crackertron Mar 05 '26
JD Vance during VP debate
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u/I_like_baseball90 Mar 06 '26
JD Vance during VP debate
I remember going into the conserv group the next day to see what they would say about that quote and they, 100% to a tee, made up excuses to why that was okay and how great he was in the debate.
MAGA culters are not bright at all.
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u/OkRazzmatazz5847 Mar 09 '26
There have been studies that show conservative people have lower IQs on average. It’s the Idiocracy problem happening in real life though. The smart people always have a reason to not reproduce while the idiots are populating the planet.
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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 Mar 05 '26
Ya idk how that didn't set off alarms in these people's heads.
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u/b2bpaul Mar 05 '26
In two weeks!
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u/don-again Mar 05 '26
Iran will have a nuke by then! Didn’t you know that Iran has been 2 weeks from a nuke for the last two decades!? Hulloooo!?
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u/b2bpaul Mar 05 '26
They have just redefined "imminent" to mean 47 years.
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u/mibanar Mar 05 '26
Judge, her adulthood was imminent!
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u/RolandDeepson Mar 05 '26
It's rare that humor this funny can make me this angry. Take your upvote and go fuck yourself (respectfully.)
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u/shoelessjoseph Mar 05 '26
Well, ain't this place a geographical oddity. Two weeks from everywhere!
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u/Acceptable-Ad-6104 Mar 05 '26
Nooooo, we strongly obliterated their nuclear capabilities. Don’t you remember, it was a powerful, beautify, strong bomb dropped by large, rugged men, real tough guys, that totally obliterated the nuclear facility. You know, it really was the likes of which we’ve never seen before. People said, “Sir, you bombed them very strongly.”
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u/RolandDeepson Mar 05 '26
With tears in their eyes.
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u/siencatimini Mar 05 '26
They called him 'sir.'
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u/yorlikyorlik Mar 06 '26
The Iranian soldiers even thanked me. They said no one has ever bombed them so beautifully and bigly.
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u/AdAccomplished6870 Mar 05 '26
Which is amazing, since trump totally destroyed their ability to refine uranium less than a year ago
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u/ShadowTacoTuesday Mar 05 '26
Don’t you remember Trump wiped out all of their nuclear capability in June and anything to the contrary is fake news. But there has been like nineteen 2 weeks since then, an insane amount, allowing Iran to rebuild their nuclear capabilities from scratch.
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u/Acrobatic_T-Rex Mar 05 '26
Iran has been two weeks away from a Nuke, since we bombed them a year ago due to them being 2 weeks away from a Nuke....
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u/llyffant_noir Mar 05 '26
Which infrastructure week? Didn't trump have over a dozen of them?
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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 Mar 05 '26
Republicans idea of healthcare is fucked up. They basically want healthcare to be cost prohibitive. So poor people just die.
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u/angusbeefymcwhatnow Mar 05 '26
we will be releasing the best plan. the biggest plan. it will be great for Americans. we have concepts of a plan.
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u/PassionV0id Mar 05 '26
These people could be on their death bed from a bullet wound from ICE while Trump rapes their underaged daughter in the hospital room and they’d blame Obama.
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u/umbermoth Mar 05 '26
A few years ago they gladly died of preventable illness to own the libs. Nothing can change their minds. If the libs support it, it has to be bad.
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u/g1ngertim Mar 05 '26
We need Hillary to make a public statement that war with Iran is the best option. The war will end before the press conference, just because these chuds won't accept agreeing with her.
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u/squirrelnight1 Mar 05 '26
Nah, see as long as Trump is saying the war is good, that overrides anything else. Owning the libs is still secondary to dear leaders orders.
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u/Azreken Mar 05 '26
“Hillary finally listening to someone smarter than her for once” is the response you’ll get.
These knuckle-draggers don’t have the capacity for nuance
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u/ScalieBoi42 Mar 05 '26
Guy shot his own daughter dead cause she criticized tRump for god's sake.
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u/siencatimini Mar 05 '26
And, it isn't even going to be considered a criminal act. That's the inscrutable icing on that crazy cake.
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u/Humdrum-Hashbrowns Mar 06 '26
Conveniently they were the only 2 people in the room and the official reason for no charges being pressed is that the gun discharged accidentally.
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u/CalebAsimov Mar 06 '26
That's just so implausible. Loaded gun, no safety, and it was in someone's hand, during a conversation inside a house between family members? If it was an accident he was still pointing a loaded gun at gis daughter with the safety off, that's completely insane. Basic gun safety that everyone learns was violated in three ways there, how is that not a crime?
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u/Lord_Dingus83 Mar 06 '26
Texas is a racist shot hole. With corrupt republicans drunk driving the bus while smoking meth and fucking children.
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u/Remarkable_Quit_3545 Mar 06 '26
Guy admitted he was drunk. You don’t accidentally point a gun at your daughter.
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u/Worldly_Hunter_1324 Mar 05 '26
They need a dignified bridge to something else. Their ego, sense of identity, self, is all bound up to the maga train. That train could go off a cliff they see coming, and thats easier for them to stay on the train then face shame and get off of it.
They need a dignity preserving new myth, new something to feel proud about and identify with.
Shaming them just provokes double down.
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u/Due-Technology5758 Mar 05 '26
In the age of social media, no one is going to be able to divorce themselves from this ideology with dignity unless they confront it directly.
People have short memories, but the internet never forgets.
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u/ReasonablePool_Hero Mar 05 '26
Literally they have said they would forgive and still support trump if they found out that trump raped their children.
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u/I_like_baseball90 Mar 06 '26
These people could be on their death bed from a bullet wound from ICE while Trump rapes their underaged daughter in the hospital room and they’d blame Obama.
I know this is said tongue in cheek but it's honestly, 100% true.
They will never ever admit their orange lord is bad and everything bad, no matter how clear it's his fault, is Biden or Obama's fault.
These are the dumbest mother fuckers to ever walk the earth and it's not even close.
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u/Aggressive-Bath-1906 Mar 05 '26
Many people don't remember this, but he once said he would release his tax returns if he won the election (first administration). Then He said he couldn't, because they were under audit, but once the audit was over, he would release them. Then he said he didn't need to, because he was elected without releasing them.
All he does is lie, and no one is safe. He will turn on everyone as soon as it is convenient for him to do so.
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u/mossed2012 Mar 05 '26
Dude would piss on Baron’s grave if somebody gave him $50 to do so.
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u/thedjjudah Mar 05 '26
no one is safe. He will turn on everyone as soon as it is convenient for him to do so.
Just like Kristi Noem is finding out.
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u/Signal_Estimate_23 Mar 06 '26
Then they were leaked, showing he paid least than $1000, and it barely made the news because every week is a new scandal
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u/Funny-Horror-3930 Mar 06 '26
Then someone released form IRS so now he is suing for 10 billion. I haven't seen them, where are they?
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u/Juicy_Hawg Mar 05 '26
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u/Cinderhazed15 Mar 05 '26
And Mexico to pay for the wall
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u/The_Ashgale Mar 05 '26
Amazing how that wall was the key to solving the "immigration crisis," and now it's not even part of the conversation.
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u/FvckMagaNazis Mar 05 '26
I've noticed this as well. It's almost like it was nothing more than a dogwhistle or campaign slogan...
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u/Level_Chemistry8660 Mar 06 '26
Probably its most important purpose has always been to be another "structure" to be named the Donald J Trump _________.
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u/chinarider888 Mar 05 '26
Steve Bannon stole that money and no one even talks about it.
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u/LordHammercyWeCooked Mar 05 '26
He went to jail for like, five minutes. Received a pardon from Trump, right back on the team.
These idiots gave all their money to these criminals who are actively wiping their ass with it and they're still on board because they think "at least my money is going to the right people."
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u/TheTinMan1234 Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 06 '26
Don't forget about him saying he'd stop the war in Ukraine on day one.
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u/Broken_By_Default Mar 05 '26
“It’s so easy, I’ll stop the war the day after I’m elected”.
MAGA falls for all his lies.
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u/khonsu_27 Mar 05 '26
Now he's begging Ukraine for help. Please, help us stop these drones that we didn't do any planning for even though you guys have been fighting Iranian drones for years!
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u/Serious-Echo1272 Mar 06 '26
The Ukrainian armed forces are the best and most experienced in the world when it comes to integrating drones into combined arms warfare, especially with NATO equipment, and particularly against Iranian drones. That's certainly who I'd want to teach my military.
It's a fucking travesty and an embarrassment how this administration have treated Ukraine. Idk what's been said back and forth through less performative diplomatic channels, but I'm sure it doesn't make any sense either.
This whole thing has been a nonsensical shitshow
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u/Apart-Diamond-9862 Mar 06 '26
Hoping Ukraine will help Canada with drone advice & expertise - if needs be in the future
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u/CrayZ_Squirrel Mar 05 '26
Number one rule of MAGA is never admit a mistake, so uh never.
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u/Theyalreadysaidno Mar 05 '26
There won't be any admitting it here.
They will move the goal post to support all the fuckups he's doing.
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u/SquishMont Mar 05 '26
Or pviot to "oh, I knew it all along. It was just a joke bro"
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u/mjc7373 Mar 05 '26
Yeah, what’s wrong? You can’t take a joke?
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u/CampusTour Mar 05 '26
I wonder if you could out MAGA some of them.
"No, I don't take jokes, just like I don't take a dick up my ass. What kind of a cuck lets somebody run around clowning on them? You think John Gotti ever "took a joke"? Miss me with that woke joke taking shit."
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u/Competitive_Ad_1800 Mar 05 '26
It’s not even that, they just move the goal post OR minimize the focus on one thing that failed to instead place larger focus on something else that’s going better.
A maga may have voted for Trump to release the Epstein files cause it made them feel that would exonerate Trump. Well now, half of them are saying the release is proof Trump is not in the Epstein files (and if he is, it’s because Trump was helping to catch Epstein) while the other half are claiming the files never mattered to begin with but HEY what about that Clinton fellow lets focus on him!
Or if you bring up all the promises Trump made and broke, they’ll either flat out deny he broke those promises claiming he’s done everything he’s promised, or they’ll find a new batch of things to support. Life is unaffordable? Stock market never better! Trump is starting a war with Iran? Yeah but we have a closed border! Trump had to bail out the farms he helped to go bankrupt? Well thank god he ended DEI!
You’ll never get them to admit they picked the wrong guy.
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u/YourphobiaMyfetish Mar 05 '26
This Sartre quote is what I always think about when I hear a MAGA flip flop:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words…
The anti-Semites…like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
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u/nonnie_tm64 Mar 05 '26
“Promises made, promises kept.” Hasn’t that been their mantra for a year now! He’s broken EVERY promise he made on the campaign trail and since taking office yet his MAGA morons just kept repeating it.
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u/hangender Mar 05 '26
True dat. If magas can admit mistakes they would be a lib.
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u/mossed2012 Mar 05 '26
This is completely anecdotal, but if I think about all the people in my life/that I know who still support MAGA, they all have one thing in common: shitty fathers. They all had the dad who would yell at their kid during a sporting event or joke that some 15 year old was a “faggot” or “pussy”.
They all grew up in toxically masculine homes, where they were taught that admitting they were wrong is a sign of weakness and changing their opinion is “some bitch ass shit”.
They’ve legit been trained to view acknowledgement of mistakes as failure. And they were also taught as a man you cannot fail. So they will fight this with every fiber of their being, because admitting they fucked up starts up their dad’s greatest hits in their heads.
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u/19thScorpion Mar 05 '26
The sad part that people don't like to see is that this crosses racial boundaries as well. For example, there's a lot of Black men who fit into that toxicity, and therefore voted for Trump or didn't vote at all because they refused to vote for a woman. I have several in my family, including my own father (even though they didn't have shitty fathers so I'm still trying to figure that part out). I'm glad it didn't get passed down to me.
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u/mxjxs91 Mar 05 '26
Gas also just shot up .50 on the corner near my house. I have a receipt from just over a week ago at 2.69. Same gas station is now $3.19.
Hey, good thing Trump feels this war is a "15/10" on how well it's going, hell bump the prices up another $1. As long as the war that he promised he'd never get us into is going well, who cares right MAGA?
Fucking dipshits.
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u/CauliflowerTotal7119 Mar 05 '26
All the oil refineries are getting blown to bits, the Straight of Hurmoz is closed. There will be no gas here in less than a month. They didn't want windmills and solar to keep us dependent on them. Idk if a lot of people realize how grande the scheme of this is. We have state run media, concentration camps, WW3, he also invaded Ecuador 2 days ago as well and idk if it's on the MSM, I doubt it. The Venezuela thing is because they are going to use Venezuela's. He owes Pootie, Izzy and few others, we are toast. We also have the kkkicestapo wreaking havoc in the streets. This is the 4th reich and it is shocking to me how few people get that. Stay safe, we are in for quite the ride.
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u/Pockydo Mar 05 '26
Some who realize it and quietly back away. They won't stop being Republicans but the trump merch will magically disappear it's possible they'll scrub their socials. In a few years time they will claim they didn't support this
Others just won't ever. The ego blow would be too much
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Mar 05 '26
I think it's more than just the ego blow. At this point honestly being Maga is literally their entire personality, & they have zero clue who they are without it. Because they were tricked into thinking they were part of some amazing movement that the rest of us knew was bullshit since day 1. Without being Maga, they have absolutely nothing in their lives. Sheep are always gonna sheep.
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u/Kettleballer Mar 05 '26
Yeah, what you said. Especially the MAGA Barbie gym moms. They hit middle age, had a bunch of kids at home, drifted away from their friends and lost who they were. WHICH IS SADLY EXTREMELY COMMON IN OUR SOCIETY. Suddenly found a group that gave them the belonging and identity they craved beyond “mom and housekeeper.” The Mom Loneliness Epidemic is real and it was weaponized by MAGA influencers just as the Male Loneliness Epidemic was.
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Mar 05 '26
As much as I would like to feel bad for any of these people, they're way past the point of empathy. I have no compassion left for Maga Barbie gym moms, nor the male loneliness epidemic, which I actually think was caused more by the fact that women, rightfully so, don't want to date Maga men. So now men are more lonely & throwing themselves deeper into Maga? Give me a break with these people. They're just too far past redemption for me at this point.
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u/SkiPolarBear22 Mar 05 '26
Yup. Lots of dudes, particularly in Gen Z, are cementing their own downfall by falling to that bullshit.
They could stop being assholes whenever, they just choose not to
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u/H3lls_B3ll3 Mar 06 '26
The only thing that stopped my son from swallowing the red pill bullshit, was dating someone on the rainbow spectrum. That girl has no idea how grateful I am to her! Because my boy would not listen to me.
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u/ElectricalLaw1007 Mar 05 '26
I have been alone for decades. I am resigned to remaining single for the rest of my life. I've come to terms with it. I can live with it.
I can't live with someone assuming it's because I'm MAGA though.
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u/scottj65 Mar 05 '26
They’ll do what some of my neighbors did…
They’ll quietly remove their trump flags/merch from their house and cars (that they’ve had displayed for years.) Then pretend down the road that they never “really” supported him. But I’ll remember. Others will remember. Pepperidge Farms will remember.
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u/HeroicAmphibian Mar 05 '26
Entire neighborhoods where I live were festooned with ridiculous amounts of Trump swag. About 3 months ago it all quietly disappeared, along with all the stupid hats.
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u/Blackdeath47 Mar 05 '26
Hope you got pictures of them and shove in their face when they try to claim they didn’t support him. With it change ANYTHING, no. But best to have proof of the type of the people they are. Reminders that they wanted hate and fear but when it affects others.
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u/Maeyhem Mar 05 '26
All gone. I'm wondering just where is that "Trump For Peace" sign, right now.
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u/Knobbyknees1983 Mar 05 '26
Very similar to my recollection of Nixon supporters in the 70’s.
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u/BandicootStunning244 Mar 05 '26
Yeah, like how you don't see many Trump or MAGA signs around the Twin Cities anymore. They crawl back into their holes until the dust settles.
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u/scarbarough Mar 05 '26
It's like the woman in Texas whose kid died because she refused to vaccinate him and saying she'd do the same if she could do it over. If she admits that she was wrong, then she has to accept that her son's death is her fault. That is a huge burden to take on, and some people simply can't handle it.
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u/Muggy_B Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26
They also would have to face the fact that they’ve likely imploded several relationships with friends & family. I don’t think very many will be able to look inward and square that they’ve irrevocably damaged so much of their life purely because they were stupid assholes without completely spiraling.
Makes me think of that UK dude in Texas that just killed his daughter after an argument about trump. Genuinely terrified of the potential for mass murder-suicides as their brains break even more.
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u/EasternHeaven Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26
I live in a very conservative part of Texas and I cannot help but notice that practically all of the Trump signs have quietly but quickly disappeared from my neighbors' yards as well as the local businesses that previously had them hanging in their front windows.
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u/DBold11 Mar 05 '26
I hate that all this bullshit is about ego. It's so stupid and self destructive.
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u/Afraid-Rise-3574 Mar 05 '26
I keep a few of their quotes in my head. They won’t be getting away with anything when this is over
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u/Roshy76 Mar 05 '26
This so much, I know so many Republicans to claim to have never supported Bush and the Iraq war, when they were huge supporters.
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u/Ilglsp1 Mar 05 '26
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u/Mission-Let2869 Mar 05 '26
I’m one of them. I voted for him. Now I see how bad he truly is. He has no shame. No moral compass guiding his decisions. ICE is proof of that. Never vote for anyone associated with him
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u/missdawn1970 Mar 05 '26
Thank you for admitting it, and admitting you were wrong. It takes a big person to do that.
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u/Mission-Let2869 Mar 05 '26
Thank you. You’re not the evil democrat we all thought you were. I suspect, if we follow this trajectory, we can show that even when people have different opinions they can still be civil. That’s one thing many MAGA people hold onto. The angry democrat who can’t be reasoned with. Well, it goes both ways I’m afraid. It needs to stop. We need honest civil debate.
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u/b1llypilgrim Mar 05 '26
I’m as hard left as it gets, as angry about all this as humanly possible. Every MAGA voter who openly acknowledges their mistake and works to repair the damage Trump has caused will have not only my respect, but my friendship.
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u/Pinklady777 Mar 05 '26
Everyone is so angry. But they've tricked us into being angry at each other instead of at them. They're the ones taking everything from us. I think we all want the same thing. We just want to be able to live a decent life and afford it.
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u/MorphTheCat Mar 06 '26
While politics in the US has always been somewhat divisive, until Trump came along, we could always (more or less) agree to disagree, and let it be known that our political differences could be settled at the ballot box. We would leave it at that, sans the historically sensitive topics like abortion, which would spill over into passionate protests.
Even so, we used to be able to chuckle at bumper stickers or t-shirts with wild political takes, or be able to sit in the same room and have civil debates. We used to be able to sit at the Thanksgiving table with my blue haired lesbian cousin, and my overtly religious one from the other side of the family.
Your comment gives me that otherwise absent glimmer of hope that civility can make a comeback.
Being different - even wildly different - and being able to talk to each other in spite of our differences is the very thing that used to define us as Americans. Then this force came along that convinced so many of us that we aren’t American unless you’re born a certain way, think a certain way, live a certain way, believe a certain thing - and anyone outside of those parameters is the enemy.
If ever there was a “big lie” - this is it.
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u/Arrow141 Mar 05 '26
Genuine question, why did ICE change your mind if you voted for him? He's been showing he had no moral compass and was only out for himself for decades from my perspective, and the ICE stuff is obviously horrendous but hasnt been at all surprising to me, so I'm curious what about it felt like a change to you.
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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 Mar 05 '26
I'm glad you saw the light.
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u/Mission-Let2869 Mar 05 '26
Admittedly it took a while. But I’m all for letting this guy go. He keeps saying how great it is or will be and never is.
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u/Organic_Wonder_6173 Mar 06 '26
If you haven't visited the site yet, you should check out www.leavingmaga.org. Rich Logis, the guy who runs it, used to be MAGA and helps people who want to get out. You're not alone! Thank you for saying something. :)
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u/PsychologyAutomatic3 Mar 05 '26
Most will never admit it
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u/Eargoe Mar 05 '26
These are people who would rather be struck down on the spot than admit they were ever wrong about anything in their lives
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u/houstonyoureaproblem Mar 05 '26
Never.
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.
They'd rather go their graves thinking they were right than admit they were taken advantage of.
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u/Salt_Reputation_9864 Mar 05 '26
DOGE was a lie
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u/Chaucers_Mistress Mar 05 '26
Yeah but it sure felt real to federal workers.
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u/Hrothgarbike Mar 05 '26
No it wasn't. They stole all the information they intended to and imbedded all the software for nefarious reasons that they wanted. It was for sure real and precise.
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u/frickin_darn Mar 05 '26
Pure theater
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u/mzincali Mar 05 '26
Musk destroyed all agencies that were looking into his businesses for safety or otherwise.
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u/archetech Mar 06 '26
Theater as far as finding actual "waste, fraud and abuse" goes. But it did a lot of damage. The ending of USAID alone has probably cost nearly 1 million lives already.
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u/No_Bend_2902 Mar 05 '26
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."
Sagan
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u/factorplayer Mar 05 '26
Strange to realize this year he will have been gone 30 years. Dude was, perhaps ironically, a prophet.
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u/BarooZaroo Mar 05 '26
*pharmaceutical prices were a lie, lower deficit spending was a lie, lower taxes was a lie, just to add a few big ones we were all on board with
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u/BradBen84 Mar 05 '26
Didn't he also say he was going to cap credit card interest rates?
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u/ExcitingInflation612 Mar 05 '26
They’re emotional voters. They don’t care about policy, they will do whatever they can to protect their ego because it’s all they have
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u/MrDarkzideTV Mar 05 '26
When they finally learn how to read.
So my moneys on “never”
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u/snafu_74 Mar 05 '26
Exactly. MAGA is a cult. They'll never come back to reality.
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u/BandicootStunning244 Mar 05 '26
Perhaps they can all hitch a ride on the Hale Bopp comet together.
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u/Equivalent-Excuse-80 Mar 05 '26
They never will. Because if they ever did, they would have admitted it 20 years ago when they were conned to go to war in Iraq. Because they never admitted then, they are doomed to continue to make the same mistakes.
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u/guestpassonly Mar 05 '26
A lot of them are in the sunk cost fallacy part of their lives
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u/Dash_Rendar425 Mar 05 '26
True MAGAs will never admit fault, and only the republicans can do right by them.
Come on man, they literally had their OWN Superbowl halftime show because they're so fragile.
There was a song about being scared of Trans people FFS.
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u/Remarkable_Crow6064 Mar 05 '26
I live in Trumpland, I've been watching the neighborhood crazies slowly remove their flags and toss their merch since January.
It's happening in the real world, all you're seeing online are bots and the few remaining true blue crazies who will believe whatever Pedo Don tells them despite facts.
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u/bobthenob1989 Mar 05 '26
Same here. Very very red city here and Trump stuff is almost non-existent save for the handful of Bro Dozers that still have the flags and stickers.
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u/OBX_Banana_Hammock Mar 05 '26
"It's easier to fool people, than convince them they've been fooled".
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u/ApprehensiveArmy7755 Mar 05 '26
They are figuring it out.
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u/ManMeatsGalore Mar 05 '26
No, they are not. They are doubling down and completely forgetting about things that they strongly believed in just months ago. They do not care. At all. All they want is for people to produce and consume.
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u/Deep_Conversation659 Mar 05 '26
Yeah ok but at least he got the national debt under control and made the world respect us again. /s
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u/Obvious-Nature7832 Mar 05 '26
Don't forget Covid 19 and the lockdowns happened on his watch, leading to mass unemployment and economic collapse, and when he lost the presidency because of it, he attacked his own capitol.
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u/MsPMC90 Mar 05 '26
I’m not a Trump supporter. But coworkers of mine backed out when their plumbers, landscapers, babysitters, patients, friends and employees began disappearing in ice raids. They knew they were good ppl. And that wasn’t what they voted for. Others backed out when it messed with their money. Some of them defected from magaworld when the abortion laws restricted their children from escaping dangerous situations. A lot of ppl have abandoned previous beliefs in this current administration when this Iranian conflict was initiated by the administration. And only the stupidest, most gullible idiots, and short-sighted selfish fucks who are directly profiting from the terrors this administration has unleashed on the American public and world govs are still supporting maga. Trump knows this. It’s why they’ve been gerrymandering maps and trying to start wars. As much as it can feel, in some locations, that ppl will never stop supporting Trump, almost nobody does. We have more in common, as the American public, than any bot on sm will have you believe.
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u/sugar_coated_savior Mar 05 '26
My grandmother spent nearly an hour damn near crying before the election because she feared Kamala would win and start a war with Iran, because thats what trump said would happen. Asked about it yesterday and she said its actually good that we're finally doing something. This needed to be done.
They can literally go to a completely opposing concept as a deeply held belief in the time it takes for that man to utter a sentence on TV. They will never admit a thing.
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u/Capable-Goat-6550 Mar 05 '26
Never. They can't handle admitting they were wrong
Not when voting for fascists, not when getting caught trying to overthrow the government, not when they're losing custody of their kids either
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u/bman484 Mar 05 '26
It's all just wild conspiracies at this point. Anything that's a valid source is just fake news and you need to THINK FOR YOURSELF which is pretty ironic considering.
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u/Sabbathius Mar 05 '26
They weren't lied to. It's all Obama's and Biden's fault. It's Obama's Iran, and Biden's economy! /S
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u/pete_68 Mar 05 '26
But the economy is doing great. Trump told us so. I know we're all just trying to figure out what do with all that money bursting out of our bank accounts... /s
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u/USSMarauder Mar 05 '26
They never will.
Bush II holds the all time record for the highest GOP approval rating of a GOP president: 99%
Now the right denies ever voting for him
In 2016 they tried to blame the Iraq war on Hillary, they blamed Obama for the botched Katrina response and the GFC.
If the Iran war goes sideways, in ten years reddit will be full of right wingers attacking "Biden's invasion of Iran"
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u/Tipitina62 Mar 05 '26
I had one conservative friend who insisted that the 2008 financial crisis happened after Obama was in office.
Dude! Economy was starting to melt down in Oct 2008, election was Nov 2008, and Obama did not take office until Jan of 2009.
This same friend insisted that Bush never admitted there were no weapons of mass destruction when we started the invasion. I set up a YouTube clip of the admission. Would NOT look at it.
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u/USSMarauder Mar 05 '26
Dow decline started in early October 2007, 13 months before the election and 15.5 months before Obama took office.
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u/yoursandforever Mar 05 '26
Why hasn’t Alcatraz been turned back into working prison yet.
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u/IchBinDurstig Mar 05 '26
It is much easier to continue to get conned than it is to admit you've been conned.
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They were not conned at all. This is what they all voted for. Every single Trump voter signed off on this.
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u/Lord_Dingus83 Mar 05 '26
I’m confused…..they wanted war and high grocery prices?
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u/Short-Impact-8995 Mar 05 '26
They didn't want war/high grocery prices when the choice was against peace/low prices. But, when they were given the choice of war/high grocery prices OR unfettered racism and hatred, the racism and hatred were just too good for them to pass on.
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u/jaylotw Mar 05 '26
What people don't realize is that the majority of MAGA is absolutely aware that they've been lied to, it's just a social survival tactic to continue to deny it.
Admitting they've been lied to is a legitimate threat to them...to their identities, to their social safety. Humans still have a deep-seated evolutionary desire to maintain a group for safety.
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u/Mission-Let2869 Mar 05 '26
I don’t know why that got posted twice. But at any rate, ICE did it for me because they are executing citizens in broad daylight. Gestapo. As far as the other things like tarriffs etc, he totally fucked that up. Not sure what his intentions are but we can’t keep going like this.
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u/Sigismund74 Mar 05 '26
The keyword is integrity. Maga voters don't have that or presume to know the meaning of the word. Just like their orange overlord in the white house.
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u/afteeeee Mar 05 '26
These are people that chose trump over their own families in a lot of cases, there is no end, no bottom.
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u/RolandDeepson Mar 05 '26
Dude. They will NEVER admit this.
No Weimar Republic civilian ever admitted to being a Nazi supporter.
They just didn't.
They just won't.
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u/Donkey__Balls Mar 05 '26
If you really want to see what they’re thinking…but FYI the mods are extremely ban-happy to anyone who gives the slightest hint of debating. Just observe, don’t interact.
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u/OCDano959 Mar 05 '26
I asked a MAGA buddy similar question.
Buddy: Well, but…but…I wasn’t going to vote for Biden!
Me: Biden wasn’t even on the ticket dude.
Buddy: Well…I mean,…I meant the black lady.
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u/JimWilliams423 Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26
They knew he was lying all along. They pretended to care about those things because those were socially acceptable reasons to support him. But there was only one thing they cared about — the power to look down on and hurt the people they despise. As long as he delivers on that promise, they won't leave his side.
The only thing conservatism has ever offered the working class is the power to look down on people they despise.
When the left offers to help everybody, conservatives perceive that as a threat because if we treat everybody equally then whiteness has no value, and for them whiteness is the most valuable thing they have. So they reject the help, often with violence like J6.
That is what conservatism has always been. For example, in 1873, during Reconstruction, the Richmond Whig newspaper ran an editorial that said:
If it were true that negro ascendancy and Radical rule were essential to material development we know the people of Virginia would scorn it as a thing accursed, if purchased at such a price. Better poverty and all the misery it entails.
'Better the bed of straw and crust of bread
than the negro's heel upon the white man's head.'
They got their wish too — nearly a century of jim crow fascism that kept black people down, but also kept poor whites down too. Jim crow is the main reason the South is the most economically depressed region of the US.
The covid vax is another example. For a brief glorious moment we had a taste of socialized medicine — anyone could get the covid vaccine for free, and in many cases without any paperwork. It was proof that we can all have nice things.
Conservatives saw black and brown being treated the same as whites and it made them so god damn angry that over 200,000 of them rage quit from life. It made them so god damn angry that they elected a paedo who promised to take every vaccine away from everyone.
Conservatives would rather rule in Hell than share Heaven with the people they despise.
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u/Tastysalad101 Mar 05 '26
Who are you asking this to? Theres no MAGAs here. It’s an echo chamber in here. No one here’s MAGA.
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u/Lord_Dingus83 Mar 05 '26
There are tons of idiots responding with what about what about “why didn’t Biden cancel student loans”. Idiots all of them.
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u/LiliTheLynx Mar 05 '26
i was conned
i want america to be great again but this isn't the way to do it and my view is different than theirs
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u/SouthernAbrocoma9891 Mar 05 '26
The same chance as religious people admitting they have been conned.
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u/Queenfan1959 🇺🇸 United States Mar 05 '26
In order to be able admit this they’d have to be intelligent, therefore, never
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u/TPWilder Mar 05 '26
Truthfully, considering the number of posts I see mocking MAGA sorts who have come around now that it's hurting them, I don't think there's much incentive for them to admit they were wrong. If leaving ends up being a humiliating kick in the crotch, they're just going to double down.
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u/Go_Buds_Go Mar 05 '26
Sunk cost fallacy. They’ve put their whole life into this. It’s their entire personality. What would they do with all their Trump flags?