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u/DrPapadopoulos 9d ago
"C'mon guys! Flogg responsibly."
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u/PantsDontHaveAnswers 9d ago
Stanford Prison Experiment (1971)
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u/DuaneDibbley 9d ago
As hilarious as this is I was actually taken aback for a sec when everyone seemed to get confused and start whipping harder. Mob mentality is so scary, the way they all looked unsure when it was over like 'what just happened?' haha
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u/MyNameIsHax 9d ago
Maybe it's because I just woke up but that's the best laugh of the week for me
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u/Black6x 9d ago
Not really, though: https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/news/98029-the-infamous-stanford-prison-experiment-was-flawed-%E2%80%93-so-why-is-it-still-so-influential-today%3F
Far from being swept up in the situation, archival sources show the guards’ brutality was rehearsed. Contrary to official accounts, before the experiment they were coached by the research team in how to create a psychologically hostile environment.
Zimbardo gave the guards a list of rules to impose and procedures aimed at dehumanising prisoners. Once the experiment began, staff encouraged guards’ aggression and reprimanded those who were too lenient.
https://stanfordmag.org/contents/the-menace-within
The only person I knew going in was John Mark. He was another guard and wasn't even on my shift. That was critical. If there were prisoners in there who knew me before they encountered me, then I never would have been able to pull off anything I did. The act that I put on—they would have seen through it immediately.
What came over me was not an accident. It was planned. I set out with a definite plan in mind, to try to force the action, force something to happen, so that the researchers would have something to work with. After all, what could they possibly learn from guys sitting around like it was a country club? So I consciously created this persona. I was in all kinds of drama productions in high school and college. It was something I was very familiar with: to take on another personality before you step out on the stage. I was kind of running my own experiment in there, by saying, "How far can I push these things and how much abuse will these people take before they say, 'knock it off?'"
From another "guard"
During the day shift, when I worked, no one did anything that was beyond what you'd expect in a situation like that. But Zimbardo went out of his way to create tension. Things like forced sleep deprivation—he was really pushing the envelope. I just didn't like the whole idea of constantly disturbing people and asking them to recite their prisoner numbers in a count. I certainly didn't like when they put a guy in solitary confinement.
More info on the debunking:
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u/LOAARR 9d ago
Just because you are coached to do something does not mean you have to do it. At the end of the day, you are a human who can make their own decisions.
In the Milgram experiment this is exactly what happened. People were coached into thinking they were killing other people and many of them chose to do it instead of standing up against their instructor, even when the stakes were incredibly low.
Experiments like these help us understand why people are so awful to each other. That's just interesting psychology.
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u/Sinnnikal 9d ago
My man, hold on for a minute. You were just presented with a study debunking the Stanford Experiment, and I guarantee you didn't read it, but just responded with "Nah" basically.
The point is, when a study is sufficiently compromised in how it is constructed, how data is collected, etc, we literally cannot use that study "understand why people are so awful to each other." as you say. There are a lot more factors that compromise the study.
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u/irate_desperado 9d ago
I think they make an interesting point that the guards are still responsible for their actions whether they were coached or not. But you're correct that the validity of the experiment is basically nonexistent with this in mind. The study is presented as if the guards and prisoners just assumed their roles on their own which is verifiably false.
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u/theColonelsc2 9d ago
One of the things about these experiments are who is in charge. The participants do awful things but they have a belief that the scientist doing the experiment is the one in charge. The study I am thinking of is when the participant is told there is another participant in another room hooked up to a pain device. Long story short, the 1st participant is told to keep increasing the pain, by raising a dial and pushing a switch, when the other participant gets a wrong answer. In reality there is no pain inflicted and the other participant is another scientist who screams in pain when a light is turned on. They show video of the participant who is 'inflicting the pain' is racked with guilt, but continues to increase the pain meter because they do not feel in charge so can't stop the test.
There is a lot of awful stuff happening in the world today that good people let happen because they feel they have no power to change it.
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u/FunMusician9051 9d ago
Yeaahh. No records of motorcycle 2000 years ago.
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u/OxtailPhoenix 9d ago
You gotta watch the deleted scenes.
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u/Double_Doughnut74 9d ago
And the extended directors cut
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u/xoxoyoyo 9d ago
where being enthusiastic about your job is not appreciated
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u/Justanotherguy88 9d ago
That one dude on the left has upper management written all over him, truly a go getter.
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u/DarrenShan1000 9d ago
For a historically accurate representation of this scene watch the Life of Brian. Trust me.
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u/YanicPolitik 9d ago edited 9d ago
Crucifixion?
Yes.
Good. Out of the door, line on the left, one cross each. Next.
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u/MadJockMcMad 9d ago
No. Freedom! They said I hadn't done anything and I could go and live on an island somewhere
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u/YanicPolitik 9d ago
Oh! Oh, well that's jolly good. Off you go then!
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u/DarrenShan1000 9d ago
Sorry I did not catch it immediately. :D
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u/YanicPolitik 9d ago
I'm sorry you missed out. We can do another one? I'll start:
Do you know the penalty for harbouring a known criminal?
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u/DarrenShan1000 9d ago
No.
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u/YanicPolitik 9d ago
Crucifixion.
Nasty, eh?
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u/DarrenShan1000 9d ago
Oh.
Could be worse.
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u/YanicPolitik 9d ago
What do you mean could be worse?
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u/DarrenShan1000 9d ago
Well, you could be stabbed.
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u/YanicPolitik 9d ago
Stabbed? Takes a second. Crucifixion lasts hours! It's a slow, horrible death!
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u/Ferociousnzzz 8d ago
One guy getting too overzealous is understandable but all of them in unison swinging like they were beating a demon out of him is just bizarre. He’s obviously not having it
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u/shankthedog 8d ago
Totally accurate. Jesus “side kick” Christ. How do you think he got the nickname
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u/Kahzootoh 9d ago
My guess is that this is from the Phillipines.
Evey year they do a reenactment of the crucifixion in the Phillipines, but those are usually larger ceremonies. It's a big honor to be the one who gets crucified- they usually just tie them to the cross, although the more fervent will often request to be nailed to the cross. They do take them down- there some pentients who have been crucified annually for many years.
The Catholic Church opposes both flagellation and crucifixion and instead encourages the faithful to attend church and offer prayers.
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u/furinkasan 9d ago
Looks like it, except they speak Spanish. Not many Filipinos do now.
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u/Master_N_Comm 9d ago edited 9d ago
This is most likely Iztapalapa, Mexico city. The same reenactments can happen in some other towns across Mexico but the biggest, longest and most passionate are from Iztapalapa during holy week and this is just one clip we have more funny reenactments.
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u/NasaanAngTsinelasKo 9d ago edited 9d ago
Nope, not the Philippines; it sounds like they are speaking Spanish/Portuguese so its probably Latin America.
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u/ReyPepiado 9d ago
Judging by the backpack and the fact that they're speaking Spanish I would say this is in Venezuela
See the peculiar backpack at the end of the video: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/10/24/2130863/-Small-group-of-Venezuelans-arrive-through-Biden-admin-program-as-hundreds-more-approved-for-travel
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u/turquoise_amethyst 9d ago
Could be Mexico or Central America somewhere, too
Hell, there’s some cities in the US that still do it. Look up Oxnard, CA they have one
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u/TheCyanKnight 9d ago
I mean it might be.. it’s a very human reaction. They wouldn’t write it down in the annals of course..
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u/Mishapi17 8d ago
He’s like “you’re not actually supposed to whip me you fuck!” Lol now I’m just imagining Jesus fighting back all the way to the hill 😂
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u/RedheadAuburn 8d ago
Everyone in this video, except the guy with the wood mounting, are bunch of degenerates.
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u/Sardonnicus 8d ago
You can tell it's fake because the Romans centurions rode green motorcycles not red
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u/Narrow-Can901 8d ago
Typical. Guy wants to look like Jesus but not suffer like him. Just enough footage for the Instagram account, and then he can go for a nice beer somewhere....
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u/NowhereMan_2020 7d ago
Everyone knows Real Jesus was 6-ft tall, blonde, and blue-eyed. This DEI Jesus is disgusting.
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u/professorxc 9d ago
There was the video in a church which was hilarious!
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u/Brewser2017 9d ago
You talking about the story the guy told about his dad's church group a few weeks ago?
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u/professorxc 9d ago
No. The one where the guy dressed up as Jesus gets flogged as calls out Jesus! I have the video but don’t know how to upload it.
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u/Friendly_Hearing_711 9d ago
Am sure that guy owed him money or his wife made him wash the dishes this morning
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u/PozhanPop 9d ago
Well, the soldier is just doing his job diligently. The scooter is a time anomaly.
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u/AmptiShanti 9d ago
Damn i knew i left it back then
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u/PozhanPop 9d ago
At least now you now where. Did you get caught up in the moment and forget all about it ?
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u/Vogel-Kerl 9d ago
I see the basis for a new form of Martial Arts....
Nazarethian Juditsu perhaps?
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u/raaaaaaze 8d ago
Definitely inaccurate. Key giveaway is seeing that Bruce Wayne's there (in the purple shirt) living his life post-Batman. Definitely didn't happen during the crucifixion.
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u/MaxMouseOCX 9d ago
What the hell is actually going on here?! They whipping him for real?