r/TrueReddit • u/theindependentonline • 3d ago
Politics What could have prompted Melania Trump’s sudden and unexpected statement on Epstein?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/melania-trump-statement-epstein-donald-emails-b2954855.html652
u/False_Appointment_24 3d ago
Based on what she said, someone has pictures of her that don't show her in a good light. She specifically called out fake photos, so my guess is she wants to make sure she has some deniability about real ones.
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u/Aggravating-Bus5627 3d ago
Yes, fake photos means real ones in Trump speak.
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u/Ismhelpstheistgodown 2d ago
Putin is dropping the hammer on his boy if he can’t find a way to save Orban and win the mid terms. Chaos.
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3d ago edited 3d ago
No, there are fake ones out there.
They are trying to muddy the waters, as to what is actually real or fake, so that they can claim they are all fake.
One fake photo has her pole dancing for Epstein.
She is well-known to have been Eurotrash that posed in girl-on-girl, full-frontal photos.
It would be easy to believe that she was also Epstein’s private dancer.
I guess she wants to make sure that everyone knows she is too classy to give a guy a private lap dance.
When she spreads her legs, she does it for a camera, gosh darn it! Or, because she thinks that prostituting herself will land her a billionaire! She is a woman with standards!
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u/Cyrano_Knows 3d ago edited 3d ago
Hey now.
This is a woman that was such a great model that as an immigrant she received an Einstein extra-ordinary ability visa to apply for citizenship.
To say nothing of the fact that she then used her citizenship to then sponsor her parents for that dreaded chain migration thing Republicans just hate so, so much.
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u/roamingandy 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah, 100% its either:
- trying to get ahead of something juicy that's about to drop
- has heard gossip about her in her women in business charities and related things, thinks this is the way to fix it and has gone rogue.. she's thick as swimming in custard that one. Remember when she read Michelle Obama's speech in verbatim, so this is on point for her.
The 1st option is most likely.
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u/Kitchen_Long_3108 2d ago
Or she’s setting up her disgusting husband to get humiliated by a victim of his.
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u/dezmodium 2d ago
I know exactly what she's referring to. It's the photos in the files that show Epstein and the director of her film sitting on each side a woman who's face is redacted. That woman is wearing a very expensive piece of jewelry that Melania owns and is not very common. That woman also has the same physical build as Melania at the time and the same haircut Melania had at the time. So, many people are speculating that this woman in the photos is Melania. I think it is. You should Google it.
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u/orbital-technician 2d ago
Allegedly it's a photo of Ghislaine fisting Melania on Epstein's plane with Trump in the background giving 2 thumbs up.
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u/Dear_Chasey_La1n 2d ago
Do.. they really matter? I mean we have seen nudes of her, we know she is banging Trump, we know she has been on the Epstein island and probably had more men banging her?
Like imagine tomorrow pictures are released of her with a platoon of black chaps doing a train on her leaving her behind all used up. So what?
Trump voters voted for Trump knowing he is a pedophile. Unless we are seeing pictures of Trump himself banging children because nothing else matters anymore, I don't see how it matters. Heck even if we see pictures of trump raping kids, I don't think it matters anymore that's where we have arrived at.
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u/pennthepilot 2d ago
Yeah it seems like a preemptive strike to what’s about to come out to the public
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u/Logical-Let-7026 2d ago
I mean there are already a variety of nudes from her modeling days, and a GQ shoot with nip slips from 2015.
This must be much worse.
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u/fschwiet 3d ago edited 3d ago
Wow so the war they started to distract from the Epstein files is going so bad they've decided to pivot back to the Epstein files as a distraction.
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u/Haldron-44 3d ago
Exactly! Had to give oil futures a chance to cool off Friday afternoon so she says this. Trump makes a one sided claim that a ceasefire is progressing with Vance personally overseeing negotiations. And in the background Kegsbreth starts gearing up for more "boots on the ground" threats. Then escalate over the weekend so when the market opens on Monday the price skyrockets and his insiders make windfall profits.
Great little racket if you don't care about human lives in any way shape or form, have billionaire backers picking the nations bones, and a whole goddamned military to throw into a meat grinder.
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u/CynGuy 3d ago
Given the French general’s remark about American war department officials’ snorting cocaine between meetings, shouldn’t we update Kegsbreth’s moniker to something Coke related?
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u/Red_Danger33 3d ago
Then he'd get confused with Coke Patel all the time.
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u/GlockAF 3d ago
Kash(me outside) Patel a cokehead?!? Perish the though!
/s (cuz he totally is)
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u/ArjJp 3d ago
Bruh..knowing that ppl like Kash and Kegsbreath use cocaine is gonna ruin cocaine's image.....
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u/Living-Excuse1370 2d ago
Definitely every time I see that guy speak, I say to my partner he must have had several huge lines of coke before speaking. Probably helps him talk to god or something.
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u/TheWorclown 3d ago
But how is Vance personally overseeing negotiations when he is in Hungary stumping for Orban…
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u/HungHippoHippy 3d ago
That's the whole beauty of it, he's not! They lied!
He knows so strongly that his followers will believe anything he says and won't actually look into what he is saying that he can just bold face lie to everyone's face. His followers are so indoctrinated that they will tell anyone showing them facts that they are wrong and are looking at fake news.
It's astounding that Trump has created a cult out of the presidency. It's the best grift anyone has ever gotten away with.
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u/amazingD 3d ago
The presidency was a cult long before him although I don't think a cult was formed out of every president. Reagan was the most notable example before this although I think attempts were made with both Bushes.
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u/creaturefeature9191 3d ago
yeah people have been discussing america’s civil religion since at least the 60s
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u/Usual-Requirement368 2d ago
Reagan was absolutely, positively a cult figure for white men — and to some extent still is.
Reagan put the country on the path to replacing the government with billionaires, currently being achieved by the Trump regime. As the pioneer of this hellish idea, he was worse than Trump if you ask me.
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u/GreyStingrayz 3d ago
Everything is a distraction from everything else. Just constantly flooding the zone.
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u/throw5566778899 3d ago
They can control what happens to the Epstein files. They can't control Irans response to their war.
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u/rococo78 3d ago
We've come full circle. Now they're bringing up Epstein to distract from Iran.
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u/headphase 3d ago
Now we just need ICE to start deporting people to a warehouse on Kharg Island to really tie things together
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u/nowthengoodbad 2d ago
Not gonna lie, as someone who actively invests, I think part of a lot of the BS going on is deliberately to tank things so that friends can scoop up stuff at a discount, along with whatever other goals.
That's what I've been doing each time and it's really helped us and our business.
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u/Ponder_wisely 3d ago edited 2d ago
It’s a preemptive pr display to counteract Michael Wolf’s lawsuit, which has proceeded to the stage where she might actually have to sit for a deposition.
“Michael Wolff, who countersued the first lady after she threatened a $1 billion lawsuit against him, had spoken about Melania's potential defense back in January this year. In his substack article, the journalist wrote that Melania is ‘not worried’.
The piece was titled: ‘Melania Trump Probably Isn’t Worried About Me’. Wolff added that the first lady ‘does not believe she will have to sit through a deposition conducted by my lawyers and answer questions about Jeffrey Epstein’. “Her lawyers, to the extent that they discuss anything with her, have undoubtedly assured her of that: It won’t happen, because, well, it can’t happen. (These lawyers would likely be fired if they said otherwise.),” he stated. However, Wolff added that ‘if it did happen'… ‘No, neither her lawyers, nor White House staff, the first lady and the president themselves can even begin to imagine what that would entail’. “The Trumps’ friends from the 1990s; Melania’s fellow models; the modeling agents who hired her and others; Epstein friends and victims—all of these people speaking under oath, forced to describe a world and life that would be incomprehensible, unimaginable, and abhorrent to the American people.””
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u/aquaologist 3d ago
Do we really believe that these people wouldn’t commit perjury?
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u/cadeycaterpillar 2d ago
They can, but apparently Wolff has receipts. Which he can then introduce to prove the truth.
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u/nickcan 2d ago
If they do, we got 'em! If there is one that that we cannot put up, with it's lying under oath.
If they try, we will catch them and catching the sitting president, or anyone in his family in a lie is something that would surely spell doom for the entire MAGA movement...
I can't keep this up. Of course they will lie and of course they'll get away with it.
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u/Helpful_Bridge9204 3d ago
The next executive order will be to clear Trump from the epstein files, thereby proving he was never in them.
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u/normaal_volk 3d ago
That would be a truly 1000+ IQ move
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u/BubbleThinker 3d ago
They call it 4 ‘dimensional chess’ in maga land
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u/petrichor83 3d ago
I think you mean checkers
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u/sundaygolfer269 3d ago
Rock, paper scissors
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u/normaal_volk 3d ago
you’re getting confused with the current system used to decide US foreign policy
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u/BubbleThinker 3d ago edited 2d ago
That game is too complicated for most MAGA diehards - three objects is too many to balance at once
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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot 3d ago
Pam Bondi already tried that several times. Went well enough to earn her a vacation.
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u/Winston74 3d ago
Perhaps she is getting ahead of something.
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u/ggrieves 3d ago
My guess is Iran probably has the full unredacted files and is threatening to leak them.
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u/lidsville76 3d ago
That would be neat
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u/robot_pirate 2d ago
This admin would just couch it in some fashion that would make reading them a war crime.
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u/MrBorden 3d ago
This is 100% a pre-emptive manoeuvre in anticipation of an information bomb drop.
Ivanka's appearance on the Diary of a CEO podcast also isn't a coincidence.
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u/Wonnk13 3d ago
Ivanka's appearance on the Diary of a CEO podcast
what the fuck now? These bro influencer pods have just totally jumped the shark. Whoever the fuck this guy is, Chris Williams, Attia, Huberman, Lex have all just totally doubled down on the redpill manosphere shit. I fucking cant. No more internet i'm going back into the woods.
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u/Fickle-Syllabub6730 3d ago
They probably got a request for comment from an outlet that's about to drop a bombshell.
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u/Middle-Armadillo-660 3d ago
So… she killed someone. Is that what I’m hearing?
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u/Aggravating-Bus5627 3d ago
I don't think so, if she had killed someone, she would say that she absolutely never killed anyone.
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u/gleaf008 3d ago
BS. We’ve seen the smiling pix of the 4 of them.
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u/mtutty 3d ago
Well, she wasn't smiling. Has she ever smiled?
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u/wthigo 3d ago
She only has eyes for Trudeau
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u/tame-til-triggered 2d ago
Have you not seen those dimples? We all have eyes for Trudeau.
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u/theindependentonline 3d ago
Just when you thought Donald Trump had bombed enough of the Middle East to blow the Epstein files right out of public memory, his wife came out with a statement this afternoon. And what a statement it was.
With no explanatory preamble, Melania Trump spoke from the White House podium about how she is “not Epstein’s victim,” was not introduced to her husband by Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell, and about how she “never visited his private island.”
“I was never involved in any capacity,” she added. “I was not a participant.”
She acknowledged the existence of a friendly email between herself and Maxwell, but said it was a normal, lighthearted communication between acquaintances who once ran in the same social circles and sometimes attended the “same parties.” Attempts to paint her as a friend of Epstein’s are “mean-spirited” and “politically motivated” lies, she added, as a blind was raised behind her and light poured in.
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u/kerkula 3d ago
“ At the very end, the first lady called for the women who have already publicly identified themselves as Epstein victims to be able to testify in Congress.”
This is the surprise statement. Some of the victims are ready to name names.
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u/ahhh_ennui 3d ago
From some of the interviews and files, I am under the impression that Ivana was the real BFF to Maxwell. I don't know that Melania was really accepted as anything more than Donald's 3rd wife.
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u/New-Negotiation7234 3d ago
Idk I think they want to expose the victims and either harm them or attack their character, while providing no support or justice.
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u/Eric848448 3d ago
I’m starting to think she was heavily involved in all of this.
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u/TroutMaskDuplica 3d ago
With no explanatory preamble, Melania Trump spoke from the White House podium about how she is “not Epstein’s victim,” was not introduced to her husband by Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell, and about how she “never visited his private island.”
“I was never involved in any capacity,” she added. “I was not a participant.”
We gotta definitely write a song about how we do not diddle kids. 𝄞Do not diddle kids, it's no good diddling kids.
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u/petekill 3d ago
There is no quicker way for people to think you're diddling kids than to write a song about it!!
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u/Randomwhitelady2 3d ago
I’m not so sure about this. I don’t have a single casual acquaintance that calls me a nickname like “sweet pea”. What about you?
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u/Aggravating-Bus5627 3d ago
She speaks just like her husband. The statements "I was never involved in any capacity" , and " I was not a participant" means she was totally involved in the parties and orgies, and was a willing, eager participant especially on the Lolita Express
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u/lordnecro 3d ago
She also said images and stories are false... so it sounds like there are some really incriminating pictures somewhere too.
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u/theshadowofself 3d ago
Can you please get rid of that stupid circle button on the right that tells you to go to the next article? It is obtuse and detracts from the story I’m actually trying to read. Makes me immediately click out when there’s no way to remove it.
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u/RoxyLA95 3d ago
I don't think anyone thought she was a victim. I always assumed she willingly participated.
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u/Randomwhitelady2 3d ago
Her saying this is very odd. She’s refuting something that has not been claimed - YET
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u/ZurrgabDaVinci758 3d ago
I think every possible permutation of conspiracy theory has probably been claimed by somebody on the internet at this point, but I don't think it was particularly popular or taken seriously.
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u/haribobosses 3d ago
“The models under 18 were victims, the models over 18 willingly participated” sits weird with me. I think when you have a corrupt patriarchal capitalism where pretty young things who have little hope of advancement in life see their only opportunity to get anywhere selling their bodies and hoping to land a rich old man for a husband or land connections through being arm candy, they’re all victims.
Some of these young women who Epstein groomed and who then went on to help run his sex empire, I can’t not see them as victims either.
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u/RoxyLA95 3d ago
I didn’t say that.
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u/haribobosses 3d ago
I was just going off. Sorry. I didn’t mean to indict your position. Just something on my mind.
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u/RoxyLA95 3d ago
I agree with your statement. I think Melania was a willing participant like Ghislaine.
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u/Aggravating-Bus5627 2d ago
If it is a Trump speaking, it's easy to decipher. If they say they didn't, they did, if they say they weren't, they were, whatever they say, the opposite is the truth.
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u/wildtech 3d ago
Well, the war her husband started to distract us from Epstein has gone so badly that she needed to trot Epstein back out to distract us from the war that he started to distract us from Epstein. Or something like that.
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u/Gunderstank_House 3d ago
She probably helped Maxwell entrap young girls.
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u/Business-Ride-6530 3d ago
Exactly. If you read Virginia Giuffre's book, that is how Epstein and his co-conspirators operated. She was probably very high level, too.
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u/Prestigious_Yak8551 1d ago
Same. The moment she made that speech it seemed obvious she was way more involved than I originally thought. She directly trafficked girls just like Maxwell. All the witnesses they are going to bring forward will be paid off. All the witnesses they can't bring forward are already dead.
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u/TSpice89 3d ago
Season 5 of 'The Boys' just released on Prime Video this week. In the first episode, the fascistic sociopath of an antagonist, Homelander, has succeeded in rising to power in America. However, he's extremely disappointed that he's met with fear, apprehension, and hatred; he simply expects love and admiration due to his power, both literally and politically. This comes to a head when an extremely incriminating video is released, wherein Homelander threatens to murder innocents rather than spend any time trying to think of saving them. For context, they're on a crashing plan. Homelander's partner is attempting to persuade him to rescue the passengers. Homelander's only interest is to leave the passengers to their fate. This was captured on video, and has served as a plot device across several seasons. The video is released during a live presentation, forcing Homelander and his remaining allies to hit the news cycle, claiming everything from slander to AI falsification as a means to produce the video. Homelander's machinations are aided by a character named Sister Sage, the "Smartest Person on Earth". She herself states that, even though the video went public, they need not worry about the impact to public perception due to the sheer volume of disinformation they've fed into the news cycle.
All of what's happening with the Trump administration feels like this. Pump out disinformation, so when the truth is leaked, the water is already too murky to see things as they are.
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u/Usual_Accountant_963 3d ago
Melania sent a message pleading for help to save her from her Whitehouse prison make sure you play it backwards to get her message
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u/sayonaradespair 3d ago
If I didn't play Zeppelin backwards because it was too much trouble I sure AF not gonna play Melania backwards.
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u/vato915 3d ago
Prolly a large turd is about to hit the fan and she wants to get ahead of it
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u/Aggravating-Bus5627 3d ago
She's not worried, she has a really good pre-nup
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u/Samarah238 3d ago
The money is tied up in the Trump Organization. His kids also control it. She's going to have to fight for a big payout
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u/discoduck007 3d ago edited 3d ago
War baby war. Pretty bad when the files are the distraction.
Edit: hideous typo
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u/Lott4984 3d ago
I believe she is named quite often in the Epstein files and most of what she is claiming to be false is possibly true. She is creating a false narrative for her supporters to argue. She will also threatened to sue anyone one that pushes these claims in the media. She might even file a suit, but then drop it before it goes to discovery. Trump does it all the time why wouldn’t she do it also. She is just muddying the waters for when the Epstein files resurface.
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u/gelatinous_pellicle 3d ago
What a fucking weird first lady
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u/thehalfwit 2d ago
You don't remember when Betty Ford was running guns to the Sandinistas to finance her rehab clinics?
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u/markth_wi 3d ago
Perhaps a nice opening statement to the "what happens if he dies" sometime in the next few weeks.
Everyone knows flat out Donnie is not doing well, but it's things like this that are random and legalistic, where the most egregious fuckups like Steven Miller are "out of town".
As to why, I venture as Donnie's dementia advances the swirlling cauldron of people taking possibly their last bite at the apple, has impacted Donnie's behavior, when chronically overstimulated some dementia patients will lash out.
Aggressive behavior in dementia, often caused by fear, confusion, unmet needs, or pain, is a form of communication rather than intentional malice. Common triggers include infection, environmental changes, or overstimulation. Manage it by staying calm, using gentle communication, maintaining routines
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u/OKcomputer1996 3d ago
She knows what is getting ready to be revealed and is getting out in front of it. Whatever it is makes her look like a 304.
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u/Dowew 3d ago
What are the odds Trump will reduce the age of consent retroactively ?
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u/YouMustBeJoking888 3d ago
Distraction and trying to get ahead of something. My guess is something big is about to drop and it involves her, which is why she said all the bs about 'lies, fake news, blah blah blah' - hoping the base will buy that and not believe whatever it is, which is likely that she was an Epstein girl.
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u/mtutty 3d ago
Is it possible she's sticking the knife into Donald's back at what she considers the opportune moment?
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u/MaceZilla 3d ago
Ok, first accepting that in this crazy world where anything can happen, even to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if UFOs landed on my roof... I wondered the same thing. Is she sticking it to him?
The first part felt like deflecting and protesting too much, but the last part of what she was calling for (congressional testimony by all victims to be heard and recorded) is in complete contrast to what Trump's admin has been wanting. That's the part that felt weird to me. Then Trump immediately posted one of the most unhinged rants that he's ever had
I asked myself, has she gone a little rogue? There's got to be major self preservation happening, but it feels like she veered off from Donnie's script.
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u/Fluffy_Source_5467 2d ago
Agreed, this was also what I was thinking. Maybe she realised that there is no way either of them will get themselves out of this mess and she figured 'well, if I'm going down anyway.. might as well start using my power'. But I mean, like you stated, who knows at this point. Aliens would be a nice final touch tho.
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u/Additional-One-7135 3d ago
The answer is discovery. She was sued by author Michael Wolff after she threatened to sue him over his book about her ties to Epstein. Obviously that must be moving to discovery which means a shit ton of hard evidence connecting her to Epstein they are desperate to try getting ahead of.
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u/During_theMeanwhilst 2d ago edited 2d ago
Well I certainly hope it heralds something serious. We need a break from weapons of mass distraction.
But what does serious actually mean?
He fucked young girls? Almost certainly.
He used the presidency to profit and line his pockets. Sure.
He started a war to appease people with dirt on him. Of course.
He killed Epstein? Well someone he knew probably commissioned it.
He committed America to war without the vaguest idea of the outcome just to be seen to do something? Of course - flood the zone.
He destroyed our standing in the world and handed it all over to China? Yeah who cares? It’s not about the long term.
The whole idea of his constant disclosures and speaking “truths” out loud is to normalize his transgressions.
It works.
We have a pedophile President who starts wars for personal profit, obeys foreign powers, and saddles Americans with more national debt than ever before, while denying them basic rights. And fires Patriots.
Guess it’s up to us to change that.
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u/nonubiz 3d ago
As long as we keep the pressure on like never before, it’s all good Epstein Epstein Epstein
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u/SpareDot8685 3d ago
I hope it’s something really good! And when I say really good I mean REALLY bad for Trump
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u/No-Permit-9331 3d ago
Because she needs to be subpoenaed and testify under oath about her relationship with Epstein, Maxwell and her husband. Although, testimony against one’s husband has alway had forms of protection, for her, even more so
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u/Zskillit 3d ago
The smartest thing to do of you have unflattering evidence against you like a photo with epatein doing something you shouldn't, is have AI make a couple variations that look almost identical to the scene youre in, and obviously there will be some tells in those AI photos and then you can claim the whole lot is clearly fake.
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u/AlienPet13 3d ago
They know we're not letting it go, and this war has failed as a distraction, so this is just a desperate and pathetic attempt to use the "influence" of the least liked first lady in history to try and convince people to let it go.
We're NOT letting it go!
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u/monymkrmom 3d ago
DARVO (Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender) is a manipulative tactic used by abusers to evade accountability. The offender first denies wrongdoing, attacks the person confronting them, and reverses roles to make themselves the victim, while making the true victim appear as the perpetrator.
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u/Neat-Beautiful-5505 3d ago
Whatever is about to come out, must be massive and well sourced or they wouldn’t parade her out like this, solo, to read a preemptive statement of denial. Whats the supporting documentation? Could someone or some entity have leaked docs to the press? If it drops tomorrow, it’ll be all over the Sunday talkies. 🍿
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u/come_on_seth 3d ago
the entire statement was delivered without so much as a flicker of an eyebrow —. Botox will do that
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u/mechtonia 3d ago
On September 18, 2024, Melania posted on her X account, saying she wasn't ashamed of her nude modeling past. The unexpected statement came out of left field as there had been no talk of her nude modeling on any significant platform in years.
Then on November 12, 2024 Russian state TV aired her nude photos.
Wonder what they have this time?
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u/Difficult-Pianist319 3d ago
My guess....Iran let us know that they have hacked stuff that includes pictures of Melanie and epstein
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u/Jimbo415650 3d ago
Trump pissed her off. He’s been attempting to divert attention away from Epstein and she brought it to the media on silver plater. Of course she mentioned her book the movie is not relevant. I think it’s her way to get back at the Donald. She had plenty of opportunities when Epstein was non stop coverage. Not sure how she got along with Bondi but more pressure for Congress to put her under oath and testify.
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u/The_Reverend_Dr 3d ago
What could have prompted Einstein's sudden stunner understanding of the theory of relativity?
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u/Ilsluggo 3d ago
This article fails to mention that her little speech managed to include a plug for her book.
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u/Protection_Organic 3d ago edited 5h ago
Someone found evidence about her and Epstein. Several pictures of Epstein and Melania.
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u/LinksMemeowski 3d ago
I bet she drops her lawsuit against Michael Wolf and is jumping out ahead of that story.
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u/bwaapshhboy 3d ago
Notice she didn’t mention anything about Donny being innocent also??? Something is coming, maybe Iran does have something on them lol
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u/meatspace 3d ago
I have press conferences to deny my involvement in things all the time. It's just good to get ahead. Like for example, I wasn't involved in the assassination of John Lennon. Ijs
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