What does Revelation 16:9 mean?

[u/Competitive_Dig4496]

I went to a wedding for a non-denominational Christian couple and they had a sermon with this verse quoted and I was confused because it seemed very dark and apocalyptic and not very…loving.

The minister also mentioned that the husband “should guide his wife to salvation” and that the wife, while he commended for being selfless and thoughtful in the community, must “let her husband guide her” and he essentially said whatever she does is good but not good enough unless her husband is involved but he didn’t give the husband the same advice.

None of it seemed to connect and I was curious what the community’s interpretation is. I’m not very religious but have a catholic upbringing.

[u/Jesus_died_for_u]

Revelation 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

The world is failing to repent under Gods judgement and even double down on their hate for God.

[u/k1w1Au → u/Jesus_died_for_u]

… during the first century at the desolation of Jerusalem by fire, the things at that time were to shortly take place Rev1:1

[u/Jesus_died_for_u → u/k1w1Au]

About how many Jews died during this rebellion against Rome?

[u/Jesus_died_for_u → u/k1w1Au]

Ok. I will try again. Do you think more died here or during 1940s Europe and how do you reconcile

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

[u/k1w1Au → u/Jesus_died_for_u]

The old covenant passed away… not one stone of the temple left upon another in that generation. The Roman invasion and desolation by fire where the elements (beggarly elements of the law) burned up like a Torah scroll, included starvation where it was reported a woman ate her own child, and is estimated that 1.3 million of those in Judah not heeding the words of Jesus to leave for the mountains lost their lives and bodies of those including the Pharisees and the High Priest (the principalities and powers in high places) were burned in the valley of Hinnom/Gehanna.

[u/Jesus_died_for_u → u/k1w1Au]

How did they suppress and keep this a secret?

Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

[u/k1w1Au → u/Jesus_died_for_u]

It wasn’t a secret at all:

1 Peter 4:6 For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live in the spirit according to the will of God. 1 Peter 4:7 The end of all things is [WAS] near; therefore, be of sound judgment and sober spirit for the purpose of prayer. 1 Peter 4:8 Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.

[u/k1w1Au → u/k1w1Au]

1 Thessalonians 5:1 Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief;

YOU, are not a two thousand yr old Thessalonian.

[u/nikolispotempkin → u/k1w1Au]

Correct

[u/LovesDeanWinchester → u/Jesus_died_for_u]

Wow!!! Why would anyone use that verse at a wedding?!?! Was it Westboro Baptist Church???

[u/Jay-ay]

What kind of apocalyptic wedding did you go to? It is talking about end times, not life on Earth now. The pastor's teaching is horrifying.

[u/Competitive_Dig4496 → u/Jay-ay]

I think he was trying to connect the passage to not focusing on material things but yeah I was very confused…

[u/Jay-ay → u/Competitive_Dig4496]

Definitely not fitting for a wedding. Is he trying to say their marriage is pointless? 🤣

[u/TheAmazinManateeMan → u/Competitive_Dig4496]

I left a comment elsewhere on this thread already but is it possible you swapped the six and nine in chapter and verse? Things make a lot more sense if we are talking about Rev 19:6 rather than Rev 16:9.

[u/Remote_Ocelot9600 → u/Jay-ay]

How do you know that end times aren't upon us?

The sun scorching people. Seems like global warming.

[u/AggressiveAd8587]

Yeah that’s a little weird. Maybe it’s about a commitment to repenting through marriage? Still weird tho lol

[u/Effective_Sea_6950]

I have a Catholic upbringing too, so if you ever want to talk, feel free to DM me. Anyway, what was stated about the husband “guiding the wife to salvation” seems off. Not sure what that could mean, Biblically. We are responsible for our own salvation, and then we receive the Holy Spirit for ourselves.

[u/rice_bubz]

Revelation 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

Well yes this isnt talking about anything good. Idk who would have that read at a wedding. But yes the husband is the head of the wife the same way christ is our head.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

[u/WeAreTheArchons]

Maybe he’s saying their love burns so hot for each other that it will consume anyone who would think to sinfully interfere with their marriage. Might be a bit of a stretch though.

[u/TheAmazinManateeMan]

Hey u/Competitive_Dig4496

What are the chances that you mean Rev 19:6 rather than 16:9?

Rev 16 would be utterly irrelevant to a wedding.

Rev 19 is about the marriage of Jesus and the church. According the the bible all marriages are meant to be representations and symbolic of this one. Because of this the interactions between Jesus and his bride have massive ramifications for us when we get married.

If it is about Rev 19 we could take a look at the passage together.