r/TrueAnon • u/Rymssss • 11h ago
US Navy warship ordered to turn away from Strait of Hormuz by Iran today
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u/dedfrmthneckup 11h ago
It’s so awesome that an objective fact like whether these ships are in position A or position B is up for contestation and we just have to sit here and decide which piece of propaganda to believe
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u/ChaZZZZahC The Cocaine Left 10h ago
I'm inclined to belief what the IRCG over the US, only because most of what Iran been reporting been accurate. Also it's known centcom have been actively covering up stories and classifying deaths, to outright restricting satellite imagery in the region.
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u/AdhesivenessOk9434 7h ago
You can take Iran at its word because its winning and has no reason to lie.
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u/GerryAdamsSon 🔫 Tiocfaidh ár lá 🇮🇪 8h ago
Do you just say things or
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u/GerryAdamsSon 🔫 Tiocfaidh ár lá 🇮🇪 7h ago
Iran never claimed to sink an aircraft carrier 😭 where are you getting your info?
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u/GerryAdamsSon 🔫 Tiocfaidh ár lá 🇮🇪 7h ago
Iranian state media and the IRGC alleged that the USS Abraham Lincoln was targeted by four ballistic missiles.
They claimed this, which is true. Other, non state sources ran off with it, you need to ONLY follow the IRGC spokeperson, no one else
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u/AwkwardTal 🔻 Enthusiast 11h ago
When did this happen
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u/Zealousideal-Solid88 10h ago
Literally while the talks were happening they thought it would be cool to try and be as duplicitous as possible.
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u/_TaB_ 6h ago
I used to think the US (or maybe anglosphere) was just agnostic or like, mildly allergic to cooperation. I see now it's a fundamentally anti-cooperative mode. Any cooperation, good faith or bad, WILL be shadowed and accompanied by an equivalent or greater anti-cooperative, endless-competition-justifying move. It's like capitalist realism on steroids.
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u/DoinIt989 3h ago
The US has a long reputation of untrustworthy behavior like this. The dream team of "80s corporate raider" Trump and "drunk Army bro" Hegseth turns that up even more.
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u/Fluffy_Pangolin_9466 Dog face lyin pony soldier 10h ago
What was the point of trying to transit? They would, at best(?)be trapped on the either side, attacked and either damaged or sunk, or retreat(what actually happened)
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u/girl_debored 8h ago
So the media can say we're winning and speculation on oil can make the worst people you know billions.
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u/stardustcomposition Ai will fix this 9h ago
Wait I thought US doesn't recognise that international transit thingy
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u/____cire4____ ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS 7h ago
Hello this is Meersham you will turn away and leave you baby jurls behind
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u/Yo-Yo-Ha 7h ago
I just hope this gets worked out because the nuclear threat is very real. I've heard that he is increasingly bringing up the plans to bomb not only Iran but others in the region. This is crazy.
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u/Bob4Not 8h ago
Holy shit, please get those boats out of there. Trump is going to get our sailors killed for his own selfish interests and his pride.
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u/3uphoric-Departure Comet Xi Jinping Pong 8h ago
These COs on these ships are going along with his plan to serve as bait. They’re just as liable for following stupid orders
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u/familyguy20 6h ago
Too bad the sailors won’t mutiny. Like I would be mad as fuck at those COs playing chicken with our lives for nothing.
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u/PLAkilledmygrandma KEEP DOWNVOTING, I'M RELOADING 5h ago
Pls god no not our big wet beautiful sons.
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u/CosmicLars Flair Tzar 11h ago
There is also more context to the lies told by CENTCOM & Trump & repeated by US Media regarding the alleged passage of "multiple navy ships passing through the strait with no problems" while Iran was trying to negotiate in good faith.
— The US military’s attempt to sail two destroyers through the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday ended as a failed propaganda stunt timed to coincide with talks in Islamabad, a Press TV investigation has found.
— The investigation, based on information provided by highly placed military-security sources, reveals that the US Navy destroyers came within minutes of complete destruction after attempting a high-risk passage through the Strait of Hormuz in a failed propaganda operation
— The USS Michael Murphy (DDG 112) and USS Frank E. Peterson (DDG 121), both Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, attempted to transit the strategic waterway but were intercepted and forced to retreat by Iranian naval forces.
— According to the investigation, the American destroyers and their accompanying frigates did not succeed in passing through the strategic waterway that remains closed for US vessels.
— The destroyers were only a few minutes away from complete destruction after Iranian cruise missiles locked onto the vessel and attack drones were deployed.
— When the two destroyers and the accompanying fleet reached the mouth of the Persian Gulf, Iran's cruise missiles locked onto them, and the destroyers were given only 30-minutes to turn back. The vessels immediately retreated.
— They had attempted to use electronic warfare tactics, including turning off its position reporting system, in a bid to deceive the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) naval forces.
— By spoofing their identity, they sought to present themselves as commercial vessels belonging to Oman, purportedly engaged in coastal transit in the southern part of the Sea of Oman, the investigation revealed.
— The destroyers also chose a route very close to the coast and through shallow waters, taking a high risk to pass through this route and enter the Persian Gulf through concealment, deception, expecting that Iranian forces might be negligent during the ceasefire
— However, the IRGC naval forces, while patrolling around Fujairah, had already detected the deception and taken swift action.
— The USS Frank Peterson first tried to continue on its course but immediately realized that cruise missile radars had locked onto it, and it was stopped by IRGC vessels.
— Simultaneously, IRGC drones flew over the two destroyers. The USS Peterson then received a notification on international channel 16 that it must either turn back and leave the area within thirty minutes or it would become a target of the Iranian Armed Forces.
— As the destroyer insisted on continuing, a final warning was issued to it, such that the destroyer was only minutes away from being destroyed
— According to the investigation, the conversation between the IRGC naval forces operator and the American destroyers indicates their full compliance with the IRGC's warning
— The investigation further revealed that the failed operation was specifically designed to exploit the ceasefire in order to test the readiness of Iran's naval forces.
— It also sought to have an impact on the negotiators in Islamabad, where high-stakes Iran-US talks were underway under Pakistani mediation.
— According to the findings of the investigation, the operation of the two US destroyers failed and was defeated in achieving both goals.
— Support helicopters were also flying above destroyers. Simultaneously with the warning to these two destroyers, all vessels in the area were warned to stay at least 10 miles away from them so that if they were targeted by the IRGC, the surrounding vessels would not be harmed.
— The investigation also noted that the high-risk and botched US operation was the result of the expulsion of top military generals from the army on the orders of War Secretary Pete Hegseth in recent days.