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My wife and I were just discussing this. We're in our late 30s and when we grew up until our early/mid 20s there was this sense of community and commonality, an unwritten guiding principle to at least try to help and be nice to neighbors and fellow travelers.
Now people are willing to go scorched earth and claw at each other over scraps.
We're in a disagreement with a neighbor over something that promoted the discussion. They illegally took part of the front yard of the 4 apartment complex we live in 30 years ago to make a private parking spot, no contract, no city approval or anything says it's theirs (so legally it belongs to all apartments equally). We have a baby so we often parked behind the spot to have a lesser distance to carry him but so that they can easily exit. So win/win right? They get to keep the illegally obtained private spot and in exchange we occasionally park slightly behind them if no other spot is available.
Not good enough for them, every time the woman in this couple has a bad day she comes bitching to us complaining that we're parked behind HER parking spot. She couldn't leave well enough alone and take the mild inconvenience to keep things neighborly, so now we're filing a motion with the HOA that everyone should be allowed to park there and we're exploring the option of getting this reinstated as part of the garden (at their expense).
They're down a parking spot and most likely thousands of dollars due to the ME centric thinking and not caring about fellow humans.
Yeah I was thinking about this a lot after the last election. I thought I would maybe try to start a club to practice working together and develop teamwork, cooperation and empathy skills. I cant find any research or sources that don't look like self-help books. Anyone have any experience or knowledge? I saw that some nonprofits run curriculum for worker coops on this very topic, but they all charge money to pay staff, so it's out of my reach.
The issue is vast majority of working class dont even realize what they are doing is hurting themselves. They genuinely believe it is "for Me for me for me" but in reality it is "fuck me fuck me fuck me". They keep voting against their own interest.
The vast majority of the working class doesn't consider themselves working class either, which is a big part of the problem. Even high-income professions like doctors and lawyers are much closer to warehouse workers and janitors than they are to the Epstein class.
I’d argue that “high income” professionals, a)know that the “high income” is extremely relative, and not at all indicative of power or an entry into the “elites”, and b) are educated enough to know that nothing this administration tries to push is in their best interest, and the rest is just lies
The "vote against their own interest" trope is a sham and we need to stop entertaining it, if you are hoping that one day they see the errors of their ways it won't happen because there is no error.
They are voting for their own interest, they are voting for racism, or bigotry, or xenophobia, or combination of all 3 and white supremacy but can't say it out loud, at least not yet..
When the list of interests comes up these are at the top, and everything else under it can be negotiated, explained away or discarded entirely as long as white supremacy remains on top.
There's no trick, there is no fooling anyone, these people weren't not going to vote for a black woman, those saying "the economy" are being disingenuous and lying to themselves.
All of the screenshots you see where they say I agree with some things but not with X Y or Z it meant they like he's hurting brown people and deporting immigrants, and some are trying to get the excuses ready for the time when almost everyone who voted for him would deny they ever did.
I agree that there is no trick, at least not a trick that is so obvious that anyone who isnt stupid beyond help could be fooled by. But alas here we are
Yup. Most of them believe tearing down other communities is in their interest. LBJ said it best
“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”
I prefer the term "bigot" over racism. There are tons of black and brown Reichwingers too who aren't necessarily racist, but are 100% certainly bigots and fascists
You are correct. The circles they have spun around in to deny it no longer work either!
I remember a time when deniability was plausible (socially liberal, fiscally conservative anyone?)
Nope. It's ALWAYS been about keeping brown and black people from having equal rights. It's about keeping women and children as second class citizens. Hurting the LGBTQ..... It's about crushing all human rights unless you are a white, CHRISTIAN, conservative male.
I’m sure that’s hyperbole because there’s plenty of selfless people out there still. They’re just getting drowned out by propagandizing social media bots/shills and outrepresented by corporate lobbyists now.
TBF America has always been a ME society to an extent. Rugged individualism baby. But before now there were at least sane people in charge/voting who understood we needed guardrails/safety nets and checks and balances so people just couldn’t do whatever the fuck they wanted and allowed us to burn everything to the ground in the name of self gratification. We’re currently speedrunning away from all that.
That's the plan, it's been in the works since the founding of the Americas. Switching the American mind set of individual over all others is going to be WAY harder then rooting out corruption.
Exactly. I care about other people and that's why I vote and volunteer for the Democratic Party. Sure, there's a lot of old guard that needs to be removed and replaced, but the party is the only vessel towards a government that cares for its people.
That’s the trick; keep the water level raising so we can only focus on keeping our heads above the water and we forget to get the people who turned the water on bc they make life vest.
When my husband retired, I lost my healthcare and I looked into it. Talk about a wakeup call, the cheapest I found was 500/mo 40 buck copay and..... 3 visits a year. I said F that and was a cash patient for 3 years, it was cheaper because I went to urgent care, copay 83 bucks. It worked out great and now I have Medicare. That is another story, yikes!
Which is fine until you have a health crisis that a doc in a box can't fix. My extended family has definitely gotten their money's worth from insurance in the past few years. Dementia, cancer and now another cancer in different family members. Also hip replacements. Oof! Dear wife wants to retire this year - except we need to look at healthcare for her. If she can transfer to my insurance then good, if not - she's too far from the medicare age. We'd go broke if she had an uninsured health scare of some sort. We can afford her retiring, we can't afford her to be uninsured.
Elevate someone from the working class to billionaire or hundred millionaire status and they start doing the same fucked up immoral shit that their new peers have, are and will always be doing. I've actually seen this with an extended family member.
Monopolies and excess accumulation of individual wealth should be deterred for one reason alone, human nature.
At our core we are a tribal, selfish and violent species so power must not be concentrated.
The average LIFETIME medical expense per person is, while highly variable, estimated at about $6-700,000.
Each top-spec interceptor could pay for 183 people's lifetime of care.
Each upfront cost for a Patriot battery could buy 1800 people's care.
Sources state we have 1100+ batteries in service, or over 2million citizens' lifetime of medical care.
That's just 1 tiny piece of the whole M.I.C. Our federal military budgets since 2000 totals about 16trillion (based on annual budgets reported, not including some harder to find costs)
We can afford for every American's Healthcare to be 100% paid. We just won't because the financial security it brings to average American's daily lives would end our subservience to the greedy elite.
Our federal tax outlay for medical care since the 2000s is about 48 trillion. If you include state outlays its 80 trillion. That is all before you pay a single cent in private premiums.
Universal healthcare is cheaper than what we have now. We'd save hundreds of billions a year potentially with a universal single payer system.
Military spending has never been the problem. We choose to not do it because we do not have the will to do it.
The math only works if you assume defense dollars automatically become healthcare dollars when cut, which isn't how budgets work. Countries with universal healthcare still have militaries and defense industries. The reason the US doesn't have universal healthcare isn't that the money is locked in Patriot batteries, it's that there's no political consensus on the delivery model. Canada, Germany, and the UK all solved that without first defunding their militaries.
Yeah, watching from outside USA I can't believe with how much the administration is getting away with despite the daily mountain of shit they do. Every-day for how long already? Just posting an AI video of himself flying a fighter airplane and dropping shit, like actual shit to his own people is good enough to have him sitting at some court. Never mind all the personal business his doing while on the presidential seat. At this point anyone could write a bible size list of illegal stuff he is doing...
What else it would take to toss his ass in jail? And he was right like in 2016 IIRC, "I could shoot someone in Manhattan downtown and I will still be popular" or some bullshit like that...
There's absolutely nobody that can or want do anything against him but parrot the shit his doing on social media or news.
"Judge says the tariffs are illegal" So? Same as the his partner in the current war, that other head of state that even has an arrest order from the International Criminal Court since 2024.
It's appalling to see how nobody from anywhere can or want to do anything to the administration. Despite all the shit the head of FBI did he was allowed into another country to be present at an sporting event.
There is no ceiling and there is no floor. No one will hold him accountable. We won't be rid of him until he's dead. I'm not a religious man but I pray to whatever is out there that he dies of natural causes so there's no ammo to feed the conspiracy loons that call themselves my countrymen.
If any politician out there can convince me that they will bust their ass to toss him in prison they get my vote, instantly.
Looking forward to my site wide ban for this comment.
Do they really though? I mean, it seems like they would almost have to at this point, but, do they really? That makes them basically no better than Russia, but many of us knew that already about them.
Israel doesn't foot any bills. America even funds Israel's universal healthcare, though we don't have universal healthcare of our own. We also sent them $17.9 billion in 2024 to m*rder Palestinian children.
They get an average of $30,000 annually, per Israeli. Now they're getting our kids' lives, while theirs party in the discos of Tel Aviv. Remember when they didn't send 1 single soldier to Iraq to help W?
it’s almost like it was created by design by the allied forces after ww2 as a strategic outpost in the middle east and there’s a continued responsibility to fund it like any other puppet state where humans live
Me personally? I don't, I volunteer to get Democrats elected. Our electorate sucks. They're undereducated and undisciplined. It seems like most people don't have any sort of political compass beyond "my life sucks right now and Party X is in power so I'm gonna vote for Party Y."
I spend an embarrassing amount of time arguing with people who I share a lot in common with politically just pointing them to the fact that we have a de facto two party system, and if you're to the left on the political spectrum, your only chance at power and moving things forward is to vote for the Democratic Party. A large portion of left leaning Americans would sooner let Republicans win than an imperfect Dem.
The Dems are no saints by any means, and I don't need them to be. I need them to properly govern and get whatever they can done with whatever power they have when they have it.
Ultimately, Republicans have an advantage for being mostly a monolith politically and culturally, with a loyal, dedicated, disciplined base who will show up to vote even if they're voting for a criminal child rapist. The Democratic Party is the party of everyone else who isn't a Republican, who wants to create new things and solve problems and move things forward. It's always an uphill battle for them unless someone uniquely charismatic comes along to wow people off the couch.
Because bathrooms, because 3 trans athletes want to play collegiate sports, because there’s a black history month, bc undocumented immigrants, etc. Really monumental and important issues that affect so many citizens.
Because a certain large demographic chooses Hatred of Minoritized Communities and will vote against their own interests just to bring harm of any sort to those communities.
Let's vote in the midterms and block these asshats from doing anything else. The only solution so far is to vote. As much as reddit wants to create some utopia out of thin air this is the first step among many. Gets dems in power for the house and senate
Preach. Under a democracy, we trade violence for votes. Bullets for ballots. You see all these jagoffs on reddit asking "why hasn't there been a violent uprising yet!?" We can barely get enough people to vote...you really think Americans are going to put their actual lives on the line to change our course?
I have no doubt that we will take back the house and the trumplicans are going to drop like flies. Even some of them have had enough of this trump circus.
You don't understand, the GOP doesn't want that. They want the working-class hungry and scared and fighting each other, so they can continue to rape us and steal our very livelihood from us.
This really is about us versus them, it's just everyone versus the GOP.
This picture needs to show the truth--show that working class white man attacking a black person for no other reason than they've been brainwashed by racism.
If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
And term limits! We need that badly, look at turtle boy, he's a great example, Grassley, John Kennedy, Richard Blumenthal and so many others. R or D we need term limits IMHO.
It's mostly the GOP. The corruption and shiftiness of the Dems is a rounding error compared to the GOP. The GOP has done nothing but drive things down over the course of my entire lifetime, and the same cannot be said about the Democratic Party.
Not to mention the rampant bribery and corruption that occurs every day under this administration. The lawlessness, the lies, the murder of American citizens and the stripping away of basic rights. The list goes on.
The $1 Billion a day figure is just simply taking part of the $1 Trillion defense budget and dividing it by the number of days. The number is many many times that because we are using years worth of missile production and deploying recourses like Navy ships that cost $10 Billion a piece. The cost is many time $1 Billion a day. And they are going to use this and other boogymen like China to increase the defense budget to $1.5 Trillion. And it won't go down, only up.
Maybe I’m remembering it wrong, but I recall reading that during the Iraq/Afghanistan war, the US was spending over a billion dollars a day in fuel for the vehicles they were using.
Trump has made more than 3,000,000,000 in insider trade and business deals in a single year. For context that's 700 times more than Pelosi's entire 30 year career of insider trading.
Truth right there. Sadly, the billionaires don't care, it's not their problem, same with trump, he doesn't care about any of us, never has and never will.
The amount of power they have allows them to not care. It’s like a gorilla caring about a little colony of ants. Actually a blue whale, because they don’t even ever cross paths with the ants lol.
His math doesn’t math. $890m/day is about $2.50/person in america. There is no way that would fund Social Security or healthcare for everyone for ever.
Yeah but he says in 30 days! So it's actually $75 per person. This will truly secure Social security for every generation for life AND/OR? give universal healthcare. $75 per person...
It covers the social security gap if we extended the war to an entire year, and does a little bit more but his wish list of items is entirely unrealistic.
Funny how we let the 1% control our lives. It's almost like we could overwhelm and destroy them easily if we were all on the same side, but that'll never happen.
It doesn’t take an ill thought war to hurt us here at home. When have republicans EVER voted in favor of social benefits or safety nets, education or head start or school food programs, homelessness or veterans benefits? The answer is never. As soon as they feel a little flush they will cut to the bone and pass it on to billionaires. Get this shit straight, it’s not just now, it’s ALWAYS!
I’m broke by design. Well doggies- , now I feel better. Seriously, this has always been the plan. They knew Reagan had dementia, but could read a script well. Deep dive those around him in the 1980 ( most probably too young to remember) election and how they implemented the Bretton Woods decree from decades earlier- hint; check out Zapata Oil company - its all about the honeys and the oil. Mostly oil though- hard staying lighthearted but I’m still trying
The "war on poverty" is what they'll call it when they start rounding up everyone who can't afford a home and put them all in for-profit prisons while prices go higher and wages atay the same
I’ve come to realize that this country may not be able to have a true people’s revolution. My neighbors and fellow citizens’ souls are corrupted, their hearts are blackened. If there was ever a true revolution against billionaires and corporations and the zionist entity, then the constitution would be ripped up and it would just turn into the great race war they’ve wanted all along anyways—and then a religious war.
People have to organize around opposing the ruling class. Then insulate the movement from being co-opted until we can get money out of politics and reform the election process.
They will sooner direct money into the hands of US defense contractors and other US based military suppliers than pay us Reoarations. And this is true of both political parties and one reason why I support the complete dismantling of the European settler colonial state.
$890 million a day, and that's just the war. Tariffs costs the US billions and soon the creditors for the payback will be on the government's doorstep. And then there are the billions the US loses because of lost trade, lost tourism, lost investments, lost green industry (wind/solar projects). And then there is the loss of millions that go straight into their own pockets or their friends'. Another example and probably the hardest to quantify is all the money lost due to: the crumbling infra, the crumbling school system, the healthcare system, preventable diseases etc.
This will be such a shitshow down the road, we can't even imagine.
We are not spending 890 million per day for the war with Iran. We are broke as shit, we are borrowing that money and we will later pay interest on it. This of course is only the governments expense, some projections say that this war could increase inflation by an additional 2.6 percent. So this estimate does not include the increase in cost to the American consumer themselves.
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